RE: McLaren 620R | PH Review

RE: McLaren 620R | PH Review

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TyrannosauRoss Lex

25,741 posts

170 months

Saturday 22nd August
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SidewaysSi said:
What he doesn't realise is that his car is worth about the same as 2 packets of crisps....
laugh you really are a joker. They just be very expensive packets of crisps, considering the 650S is most likely out of budget for at least 99.9% of the population.

Edited by TyrannosauRoss Lex on Saturday 22 August 13:48

Maldini35

2,530 posts

146 months

Saturday 22nd August
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650spider said:
SidewaysSi said:
Kent Border Kenny said:
SidewaysSi said:
My word you are a bit sensitive about your dear McLaren aren't you? Please explain why you think I "need to work a bit harder so I can get one myself"? - you are the one who started with opinions of others I think... wink.


Edited by SidewaysSi on Friday 21st August 15:50
If you don’t work a bit harder / smarter how do you plan to increase your income then?

Increasing your earnings is a far more certain route to owning higher-end cars than is waiting for a lottery win.

My love of nice cars was one of the reasons I went back to do another degree and then change careers, there’s no way I could have ever afforded the sort of things I now can if I’d remained a civil servant.
True. But that was aimed at Mr 650Spider who made a daft and massively presumptuous comment that somehow I (or others I assume) needs to work harder so one day they can hopefully afford a McLaren just like him.

What he doesn't realise is that his car is worth about the same as 2 packets of crisps. And plenty of people can afford to buy "expensive" cars but choose not to for a variety of reasons.

Let's just say I am more than happy with what I have and my income levels thank you very much. And I have zero aspiration to buy McL even if I won a lottery jackpot.. smile
I probably shouldn't point this out, but i was playing you at your own tiresome, mundane game.

Like others, you pop up making inflammatory posts hoping for a bite so you can post that the individual that 'bit' is 'a bit sensitive', and award yourself a pistonheads badge of honour.

One post by myself and your still biting away with numerous replies.

Whilst i appreciate you get something out of goading, now I have given it a try, I don't find it challenging nor stimulating.

I have no real interest in what my car is worth, but thank you for pointing out your valuation; I consider myself enlightened.
SidewaysSi has his own Sniff Petrol column:

https://sniffpetrol.com/2019/10/24/ask-a-total-pri...



TyrannosauRoss Lex

25,741 posts

170 months

Saturday 22nd August
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Maldini35 said:
650spider said:
SidewaysSi said:
Kent Border Kenny said:
SidewaysSi said:
My word you are a bit sensitive about your dear McLaren aren't you? Please explain why you think I "need to work a bit harder so I can get one myself"? - you are the one who started with opinions of others I think... wink.


Edited by SidewaysSi on Friday 21st August 15:50
If you don’t work a bit harder / smarter how do you plan to increase your income then?

Increasing your earnings is a far more certain route to owning higher-end cars than is waiting for a lottery win.

My love of nice cars was one of the reasons I went back to do another degree and then change careers, there’s no way I could have ever afforded the sort of things I now can if I’d remained a civil servant.
True. But that was aimed at Mr 650Spider who made a daft and massively presumptuous comment that somehow I (or others I assume) needs to work harder so one day they can hopefully afford a McLaren just like him.

What he doesn't realise is that his car is worth about the same as 2 packets of crisps. And plenty of people can afford to buy "expensive" cars but choose not to for a variety of reasons.

Let's just say I am more than happy with what I have and my income levels thank you very much. And I have zero aspiration to buy McL even if I won a lottery jackpot.. smile
I probably shouldn't point this out, but i was playing you at your own tiresome, mundane game.

Like others, you pop up making inflammatory posts hoping for a bite so you can post that the individual that 'bit' is 'a bit sensitive', and award yourself a pistonheads badge of honour.

One post by myself and your still biting away with numerous replies.

Whilst i appreciate you get something out of goading, now I have given it a try, I don't find it challenging nor stimulating.

I have no real interest in what my car is worth, but thank you for pointing out your valuation; I consider myself enlightened.
SidewaysSi has his own Sniff Petrol column:

https://sniffpetrol.com/2019/10/24/ask-a-total-pri...


laugh

RSbandit

1,248 posts

90 months

Sunday 23rd August
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Lol they were definitely using Si as inspiration!

the_hood

557 posts

152 months

Sunday 23rd August
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When Mclaren introduce their next variant, it will be quicker just to cut and paste all these comments smile

Kent Border Kenny

808 posts

18 months

Sunday 23rd August
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SidewaysSi said:
True. But that was aimed at Mr 650Spider who made a daft and massively presumptuous comment that somehow I (or others I assume) needs to work harder so one day they can hopefully afford a McLaren just like him.

What he doesn't realise is that his car is worth about the same as 2 packets of crisps. And plenty of people can afford to buy "expensive" cars but choose not to for a variety of reasons.

Let's just say I am more than happy with what I have and my income levels thank you very much. And I have zero aspiration to buy McL even if I won a lottery jackpot.. smile
Then why no higher-end cars in your history?

I don’t really understand why people with the means to have some pretty special cars, and who are on a car enthusiast’s site then choose not to have them.

BadBull

1,396 posts

30 months

Sunday 23rd August
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The Ferrari and Lamborghini threads don't turn into st shows. Dunno about the Porsche ones. But McLaren? Nearly every thread turns to st. Some of the owners need to ask themselves why?

Kent Border Kenny

808 posts

18 months

Monday 24th August
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BadBull said:
The Ferrari and Lamborghini threads don't turn into st shows. Dunno about the Porsche ones. But McLaren? Nearly every thread turns to st. Some of the owners need to ask themselves why?
I don’t think that it’s the owners who need to be asking themselves anything, there seem to be some posters who have a bee in their bonnet about the brand and are trying their best to piss others off.

likesachange

2,012 posts

152 months

Monday 24th August
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Kent Border Kenny said:
I don’t think that it’s the owners who need to be asking themselves anything, there seem to be some posters who have a bee in their bonnet about the brand and are trying their best to piss others off.
This. Very very few owners will be unnecessarily negative towards the brand. But there are many owners who do admit the faults and seem pretty unbiased from my opinion. Yet many members who own other brands always seem to feel ibliged to nit pick and slate the brand. It’s very Sad.

Even with there flaws, So called car fanatics of the country should get behind the countries only real Supercar manufacturer.


Bobtherallyfan

496 posts

36 months

Monday 24th August
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I know I’m increasing an old crusty but I still reckon a super car should be instantly recognisable as a unique shape. The Daytona is an example...it can’t be mistaken for anything else. The 250GTO another. Bugatti managed it with the Veyron. The F1 hits the target, but since then McLaren’s range seems to have got increasing confused. My wife came close to buying one a few years back and we can’t now even remember what the model number was.

bcr5784

4,949 posts

103 months

Monday 24th August
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Kent Border Kenny said:
I don’t think that it’s the owners who need to be asking themselves anything, there seem to be some posters who have a bee in their bonnet about the brand and are trying their best to piss others off.
As someone who has toyed with the idea of a (secondhand) McLaren I think the problem can be summed up as - the cars are great, the ownership experience isn't. There are too many anecdotes and youtube videos by people whose opinion I respect to suggest the nay sayers are just people trying to diss the car.

Camelot1971

2,093 posts

124 months

Monday 24th August
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the_hood said:
When Mclaren introduce the exact same car but with a different badge, it will be quicker just to cut and paste all these comments smile
Fixed that wink

TypeRTim

137 posts

52 months

Monday 24th August
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Camelot1971 said:
Fixed that wink
If all you are going to contribute to this thread is the same FALSE opinion, then maybe it would be better that you contributed nothing. Once again, if you cannot tell the difference between a 570, a 720 and a Senna, then kindly get your eyes tested as you may be suffering from cataracts or glaucoma.

Baldchap

3,307 posts

50 months

Monday 24th August
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There was a 570S in our garage at Silverstone earlier this month and the owner let me have a nosey. I didn't drive it, but it had the feel of a modern, grown-up Elise to me. He said it was basically exactly like that (he also had a Lotus).

I didn't see how it performed because sadly he managed to get a screw in his new rear tyre on the sighting lap. frown

Kent Border Kenny said:
I don’t really understand why people with the means to have some pretty special cars, and who are on a car enthusiast’s site then choose not to have them.
Many of these things are too brash and shouty for some.

ate one too

2,278 posts

104 months

Monday 24th August
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Baldchap said:
There was a 570S in our garage at Silverstone earlier this month and the owner let me have a nosey. I didn't drive it, but it had the feel of a modern, grown-up Elise to me. He said it was basically exactly like that (he also had a Lotus).

I didn't see how it performed because sadly he managed to get a screw in his new rear tyre on the sighting lap. frown


That was my first impression when I drove a 570 Spider ... big lotus Elise.

Many of the McL development team came from Lotus ... this Thorney Motorsport video is well worth watching:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92MItt_DEys

theRossatron

969 posts

190 months

Monday 24th August
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likesachange said:
This. Very very few owners will be unnecessarily negative towards the brand. But there are many owners who do admit the faults and seem pretty unbiased from my opinion. Yet many members who own other brands always seem to feel ibliged to nit pick and slate the brand. It’s very Sad.

Even with there flaws, So called car fanatics of the country should get behind the countries only real Supercar manufacturer.
This!

Shame everyone is so salty, its like Mclaren bullied them as a child.

Leftfootwonder

430 posts

16 months

Monday 24th August
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I think McLaren should invite all these dimwits to a trackday so they can actually drive the cars rather than form their opinion from some sweaty YouTuber. I was lucky enough to drive a 570S last year and it blew me away! It was a corporate day so I drove a few rivals (R8, Huracan etc) back-to-back...the McLaren is the only one I was impressed by.

Shiv_P

2,183 posts

63 months

Monday 24th August
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Kent Border Kenny said:
SidewaysSi said:
True. But that was aimed at Mr 650Spider who made a daft and massively presumptuous comment that somehow I (or others I assume) needs to work harder so one day they can hopefully afford a McLaren just like him.

What he doesn't realise is that his car is worth about the same as 2 packets of crisps. And plenty of people can afford to buy "expensive" cars but choose not to for a variety of reasons.

Let's just say I am more than happy with what I have and my income levels thank you very much. And I have zero aspiration to buy McL even if I won a lottery jackpot.. smile
Then why no higher-end cars in your history?

I don’t really understand why people with the means to have some pretty special cars, and who are on a car enthusiast’s site then choose not to have them.
Because according to Si everyone should daily drive a shagged E36 coupe no matter their financial standing.

bennno

6,564 posts

227 months

Monday 24th August
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Bobtherallyfan said:
I know I’m increasing an old crusty but I still reckon a super car should be instantly recognisable as a unique shape. The Daytona is an example...it can’t be mistaken for anything else. The 250GTO another. Bugatti managed it with the Veyron. The F1 hits the target, but since then McLaren’s range seems to have got increasing confused. My wife came close to buying one a few years back and we can’t now even remember what the model number was.
Bless, senility hits us all eventually.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

25,741 posts

170 months

Monday 24th August
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bennno said:
Bobtherallyfan said:
I know I’m increasing an old crusty but I still reckon a super car should be instantly recognisable as a unique shape. The Daytona is an example...it can’t be mistaken for anything else. The 250GTO another. Bugatti managed it with the Veyron. The F1 hits the target, but since then McLaren’s range seems to have got increasing confused. My wife came close to buying one a few years back and we can’t now even remember what the model number was.
Bless, senility hits us all eventually.
Agreed, that is senility. The models used as examples are either very dated or one-offs (eg Veyron....Bugatti didn't make another model). In reality though, all supercars made by manufacturers that make more than 1 model all have similarities. A Huracan looks very similar to an Aventador, which has similarities in design to the Urus. All Ferraris have a similar front end and have very similar design cues throughout, aside the new Roma (which is lovely).

Astons? Certainly have similarities. I think it's fair to say if you see a McLaren you know it's a McLaren, it doesn't look like another marque's car which is important I think.