Why can nobody overtake?
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Some really hate being overtaken in my 126. Bored out to 685cc, twin choke weber, big valve head, high lift/ duration cam and de restricted exhaust now gives it 85mph all from around 50hp (estimate)
Midrange is pretty good but it does take a good long clear stretch to get past
Problem is if the w
ker I'm going past decides to speed up I'm fked
Midrange is pretty good but it does take a good long clear stretch to get past
Problem is if the w
ker I'm going past decides to speed up I'm fkedFleckers said:
Earlier this week family day out which included going to Rye Harbour in East Sussex
There is a certain road that is long and straight we were bimbeling along at less than 40 totally clear so I went round 3 cars well below the limit the front car holding everyone up decided that being over taken was not permitted or acceptable and when I was going around him put his foot down and started to move in my path to try and block me
Total bellend
Fortunately I managed to get past him and he was raging at me and flashing his lights and hooting and sat up my rear bumper for ages until we got to Rye when he got out of his car to scream abuse at me when we stopped due to some traffic
His wife was apparently calling the police on me due to my illegal over take manoeuvre
I wasted my water bottle on him out of the window lol
Was it Wonnie Pickewin?There is a certain road that is long and straight we were bimbeling along at less than 40 totally clear so I went round 3 cars well below the limit the front car holding everyone up decided that being over taken was not permitted or acceptable and when I was going around him put his foot down and started to move in my path to try and block me
Total bellend
Fortunately I managed to get past him and he was raging at me and flashing his lights and hooting and sat up my rear bumper for ages until we got to Rye when he got out of his car to scream abuse at me when we stopped due to some traffic
His wife was apparently calling the police on me due to my illegal over take manoeuvre
I wasted my water bottle on him out of the window lol
Drive it fix it repeat said:
I share your pain. Personally I love a good overtake, especially if it's a pleb I'm overtaking, NA car is the best, scream past at 7500rpm to what I assume to be congratulatory light flashing. Boosted cars are also fun, brake boost then fly past making OTT whooshing noises
Even when I'm not being a yob I find dawdlers and indecisive drivers infuriating, just make a decision and carry it out without crashing into something or inconveniencing everyone around you. People who sit behind tractors on clear, wide, fast A roads 'because 25 is plenty' should be strung up. Christ this is better than therapy
Absolutely this. I drive a C350 petrol and it’s no slouch. Revs out to about 7500 rpm and sounds ridiculous at those revs. Blast past them. Even when I'm not being a yob I find dawdlers and indecisive drivers infuriating, just make a decision and carry it out without crashing into something or inconveniencing everyone around you. People who sit behind tractors on clear, wide, fast A roads 'because 25 is plenty' should be strung up. Christ this is better than therapy
It is annoying though the Peak District is really bad for it and you need some power to get rid of them. I get it that people are taking in the scenery but for f
ks sake look in the mirror and look at the problems you are causing ! Plenty of lay-bys, use them to release the traffic and be fair. Honestly, drives me nuts.
Long overtakes have got to be done.
You lot are maniacs. Listen to Brake FFS.
Brake said:
Don’t overtake
Overtaking on single carriageways is incredibly risky and should be avoided. It is impossible to accurately judge the speed of approaching traffic, or the length of empty road in front of you, and when overtaking this can be fatal. The gap between you and oncoming traffic disappears surprisingly fast. If you and an oncoming vehicle are both driving at 60mph, the gap between you is closing at 120mph, or 60 metres a second. So a small error of judgement can easily result in multiple deaths.
That’s why it isn’t worth the risk. Often overtaking makes little difference to your arrival time, but could mean you and someone else never arriving at all. So never overtake on single carriageways unless absolutely essential, such as because you need to pass a stationary or extremely slow moving vehicle. Only then do so if certain there’s enough space to get past without speeding and with no risk of someone coming the other way. Otherwise just hang back and relax.
Overtaking on single carriageways is incredibly risky and should be avoided. It is impossible to accurately judge the speed of approaching traffic, or the length of empty road in front of you, and when overtaking this can be fatal. The gap between you and oncoming traffic disappears surprisingly fast. If you and an oncoming vehicle are both driving at 60mph, the gap between you is closing at 120mph, or 60 metres a second. So a small error of judgement can easily result in multiple deaths.
That’s why it isn’t worth the risk. Often overtaking makes little difference to your arrival time, but could mean you and someone else never arriving at all. So never overtake on single carriageways unless absolutely essential, such as because you need to pass a stationary or extremely slow moving vehicle. Only then do so if certain there’s enough space to get past without speeding and with no risk of someone coming the other way. Otherwise just hang back and relax.
g3org3y said:
You lot are maniacs. Listen to Brake FFS.
Is that real FFS?Brake said:
Don’t overtake
Overtaking on single carriageways is incredibly risky and should be avoided. It is impossible to accurately judge the speed of approaching traffic, or the length of empty road in front of you, and when overtaking this can be fatal. The gap between you and oncoming traffic disappears surprisingly fast. If you and an oncoming vehicle are both driving at 60mph, the gap between you is closing at 120mph, or 60 metres a second. So a small error of judgement can easily result in multiple deaths.
That’s why it isn’t worth the risk. Often overtaking makes little difference to your arrival time, but could mean you and someone else never arriving at all. So never overtake on single carriageways unless absolutely essential, such as because you need to pass a stationary or extremely slow moving vehicle. Only then do so if certain there’s enough space to get past without speeding and with no risk of someone coming the other way. Otherwise just hang back and relax.
Overtaking on single carriageways is incredibly risky and should be avoided. It is impossible to accurately judge the speed of approaching traffic, or the length of empty road in front of you, and when overtaking this can be fatal. The gap between you and oncoming traffic disappears surprisingly fast. If you and an oncoming vehicle are both driving at 60mph, the gap between you is closing at 120mph, or 60 metres a second. So a small error of judgement can easily result in multiple deaths.
That’s why it isn’t worth the risk. Often overtaking makes little difference to your arrival time, but could mean you and someone else never arriving at all. So never overtake on single carriageways unless absolutely essential, such as because you need to pass a stationary or extremely slow moving vehicle. Only then do so if certain there’s enough space to get past without speeding and with no risk of someone coming the other way. Otherwise just hang back and relax.
Aiminghigh123 said:
Yeah love a good overtake, especially past 2-3 cars that are just sat behind a tractor on a completely straight road. FFS get on with it.
I don’t mind being overtaken either unless they are in something I deem unacceptable to be overtaken in, then I will try and overtake back.
Oh wow! Not sure if serious?I don’t mind being overtaken either unless they are in something I deem unacceptable to be overtaken in, then I will try and overtake back.
Just remember that anyone going faster than you is an idiot and anyone going slower is a dawdler.
We all think it so everyone else is an idiot.
I love a good overtake but its surprising how often you get flashing lights and shaking fists. I believe its probably because you just woke them from their slumber with a fright.
I also like the occasional bimble and if I'm bimbling I'll keep out of the way and, wherever possible, wave people past if I want to enjoy the scenery.
There used to be a sort of unwritten code that was based around making progress and helping others to do so if you didn't want to but now it seems the highways are full of road captains who think they should dictate what is a safe speed for everyone else to travel.
M4cruiser said:
It doesn't save much time. And it costs money.
For me the benefit doesn't outweigh the risk (on a single carriageway I mean).
Are you on the right site? There’s a beautiful piece of clear, snaking road up ahead of that caravan, one that you can drive at the speed that you choose if you only didn’t have the Traveller 2.0 Delight, three Honda Jazz and an Ocado lorry doing 40mph in front of you.For me the benefit doesn't outweigh the risk (on a single carriageway I mean).
It’s one of the reasons that I enjoy accelerative cars, it greatly increases the number of places where a comfortable, safe overtake is available.
Sadly, of course, other people do it so rarely that you have to worry about one of the men in hats in the queue ahead pulling out in front of you just as your engine really comes on-song as he never imagined that anyone else would be overtaking at the same time.
It isn't just the overtaken that go into paroxysms of rage, people going the other way do it too.
I overtook one car on an N/S/L single carriageway recently on a straight more than a mile long and was back on my side of the road long before the moron going in the opposite direction managed to flash his lights.
But it won't put me off - I still love a good overtake!
A few years ago I was in a stream of cars on the same stretch of road and there were a couple of bikes trying to get past. It's a wide road so I moved to my left and they got past me without needing to cross the centre-line, but nobody else seemed to do the same. Probably all totally oblivious!
I overtook one car on an N/S/L single carriageway recently on a straight more than a mile long and was back on my side of the road long before the moron going in the opposite direction managed to flash his lights.
But it won't put me off - I still love a good overtake!
A few years ago I was in a stream of cars on the same stretch of road and there were a couple of bikes trying to get past. It's a wide road so I moved to my left and they got past me without needing to cross the centre-line, but nobody else seemed to do the same. Probably all totally oblivious!
1974nc said:
People nowadays despise being overtaken as well as other things.
We have a society which trumpets kindness and equality but the reality is people now think the world should stop for them........
Sadly this is spot on....& I agree this goes far beyond overtakes or driving. We have a society which trumpets kindness and equality but the reality is people now think the world should stop for them........
Ironic that many self entitled types, (that consider themselves easy going), are more confrontational or problematic than those they have disproportionate issue(s) with.
Capturing gap closers, lane blockers & irrational road users are just a few reasons to have a (2 or 3 channel), dash cam....(if an accident, serious near miss or dangerous road rage occurs).
Bunched up &/or passive aggressive procession participants can encourage frustrated drivers to take risks.....subsequently playing into their gesticulating hands, (not a euphemism).
Sadly I often hold back so as to avoid being set up to look like a dangerous over-taker...Most that are not directly involved will see the over-taker at fault &/or join in the attempt cause the over-takers "death by head on collision" !
I share the same frustration as many sensible contributors on this thread.
Edited by AW8 on Friday 28th August 02:49
Done it loads of times on the local A road round here. Usually just gets lots of people doing 40. There is a large hill on the NSL section that is twisty so worth getting your speed up.
Varying reactions from the light flasher to the one that got angry and suddenly did about 80 plus.
Really don't get it...
Varying reactions from the light flasher to the one that got angry and suddenly did about 80 plus.
Really don't get it...
ninepoint2 said:
g3org3y said:
You lot are maniacs. Listen to Brake FFS.
Is that real FFS?Brake said:
Don’t overtake
Overtaking on single carriageways is incredibly risky and should be avoided. It is impossible to accurately judge the speed of approaching traffic, or the length of empty road in front of you, and when overtaking this can be fatal. The gap between you and oncoming traffic disappears surprisingly fast. If you and an oncoming vehicle are both driving at 60mph, the gap between you is closing at 120mph, or 60 metres a second. So a small error of judgement can easily result in multiple deaths.
That’s why it isn’t worth the risk. Often overtaking makes little difference to your arrival time, but could mean you and someone else never arriving at all. So never overtake on single carriageways unless absolutely essential, such as because you need to pass a stationary or extremely slow moving vehicle. Only then do so if certain there’s enough space to get past without speeding and with no risk of someone coming the other way. Otherwise just hang back and relax.
Overtaking on single carriageways is incredibly risky and should be avoided. It is impossible to accurately judge the speed of approaching traffic, or the length of empty road in front of you, and when overtaking this can be fatal. The gap between you and oncoming traffic disappears surprisingly fast. If you and an oncoming vehicle are both driving at 60mph, the gap between you is closing at 120mph, or 60 metres a second. So a small error of judgement can easily result in multiple deaths.
That’s why it isn’t worth the risk. Often overtaking makes little difference to your arrival time, but could mean you and someone else never arriving at all. So never overtake on single carriageways unless absolutely essential, such as because you need to pass a stationary or extremely slow moving vehicle. Only then do so if certain there’s enough space to get past without speeding and with no risk of someone coming the other way. Otherwise just hang back and relax.
Fleckers said:
Earlier this week family day out which included going to Rye Harbour in East Sussex
There is a certain road that is long and straight we were bimbeling along at less than 40 totally clear so I went round 3 cars well below the limit the front car holding everyone up decided that being over taken was not permitted or acceptable and when I was going around him put his foot down and started to move in my path to try and block me
Total bellend
Fortunately I managed to get past him and he was raging at me and flashing his lights and hooting and sat up my rear bumper for ages until we got to Rye when he got out of his car to scream abuse at me when we stopped due to some traffic
His wife was apparently calling the police on me due to my illegal over take manoeuvre
I wasted my water bottle on him out of the window lol
Is that the B2244 by chance, near Hawkhurst and Cripps Corner? Amazingly good road, I presume roman, and almost parallel to the nose to tail depression of the a21. There is a certain road that is long and straight we were bimbeling along at less than 40 totally clear so I went round 3 cars well below the limit the front car holding everyone up decided that being over taken was not permitted or acceptable and when I was going around him put his foot down and started to move in my path to try and block me
Total bellend
Fortunately I managed to get past him and he was raging at me and flashing his lights and hooting and sat up my rear bumper for ages until we got to Rye when he got out of his car to scream abuse at me when we stopped due to some traffic
His wife was apparently calling the police on me due to my illegal over take manoeuvre
I wasted my water bottle on him out of the window lol
Many a licence losing speed has been reached on that road!!
g3org3y said:
ninepoint2 said:
g3org3y said:
You lot are maniacs. Listen to Brake FFS.
Is that real FFS?Brake said:
Don’t overtake
Overtaking on single carriageways is incredibly risky and should be avoided. It is impossible to accurately judge the speed of approaching traffic, or the length of empty road in front of you, and when overtaking this can be fatal. The gap between you and oncoming traffic disappears surprisingly fast. If you and an oncoming vehicle are both driving at 60mph, the gap between you is closing at 120mph, or 60 metres a second. So a small error of judgement can easily result in multiple deaths.
That’s why it isn’t worth the risk. Often overtaking makes little difference to your arrival time, but could mean you and someone else never arriving at all. So never overtake on single carriageways unless absolutely essential, such as because you need to pass a stationary or extremely slow moving vehicle. Only then do so if certain there’s enough space to get past without speeding and with no risk of someone coming the other way. Otherwise just hang back and relax.
Overtaking on single carriageways is incredibly risky and should be avoided. It is impossible to accurately judge the speed of approaching traffic, or the length of empty road in front of you, and when overtaking this can be fatal. The gap between you and oncoming traffic disappears surprisingly fast. If you and an oncoming vehicle are both driving at 60mph, the gap between you is closing at 120mph, or 60 metres a second. So a small error of judgement can easily result in multiple deaths.
That’s why it isn’t worth the risk. Often overtaking makes little difference to your arrival time, but could mean you and someone else never arriving at all. So never overtake on single carriageways unless absolutely essential, such as because you need to pass a stationary or extremely slow moving vehicle. Only then do so if certain there’s enough space to get past without speeding and with no risk of someone coming the other way. Otherwise just hang back and relax.
tty facts. A Tesla can brake from 60mph to 0 in about 40m that has been tested recently and was one of the worst performing cars tested so that brake article is just using data from the Highway Code which has been proven to be old and out of date.
The argument for not getting there quicker I disagree with. I saved hours of my life but overtaking. My commute used to be 74 miles to work. When the M3 was closed I would use the A3, getting stuck behind a lorry mile after mile doing 40mph when I could be doing 60 would have taken me an age to get to work.
Reading that article makes it sound like driving from A to B is just for pleasure and we should all be in fairy land enjoying it when the reality for most is people are trying to get places at speed, eg delivery people, commuters etc.
I do agree with driving slower outside schools etc, 20 is fast enough but driving slower will make places “greener”. WTF. No it won’t. I know for a fact that driving at 30 my mpg is worse than at 40mph.
Edited by Aiminghigh123 on Friday 28th August 06:44
g3org3y said:
ninepoint2 said:
g3org3y said:
You lot are maniacs. Listen to Brake FFS.
Is that real FFS?Brake said:
Don’t overtake
Overtaking on single carriageways is incredibly risky and should be avoided. It is impossible to accurately judge the speed of approaching traffic, or the length of empty road in front of you, and when overtaking this can be fatal. The gap between you and oncoming traffic disappears surprisingly fast. If you and an oncoming vehicle are both driving at 60mph, the gap between you is closing at 120mph, or 60 metres a second. So a small error of judgement can easily result in multiple deaths.
That’s why it isn’t worth the risk. Often overtaking makes little difference to your arrival time, but could mean you and someone else never arriving at all. So never overtake on single carriageways unless absolutely essential, such as because you need to pass a stationary or extremely slow moving vehicle. Only then do so if certain there’s enough space to get past without speeding and with no risk of someone coming the other way. Otherwise just hang back and relax.
Overtaking on single carriageways is incredibly risky and should be avoided. It is impossible to accurately judge the speed of approaching traffic, or the length of empty road in front of you, and when overtaking this can be fatal. The gap between you and oncoming traffic disappears surprisingly fast. If you and an oncoming vehicle are both driving at 60mph, the gap between you is closing at 120mph, or 60 metres a second. So a small error of judgement can easily result in multiple deaths.
That’s why it isn’t worth the risk. Often overtaking makes little difference to your arrival time, but could mean you and someone else never arriving at all. So never overtake on single carriageways unless absolutely essential, such as because you need to pass a stationary or extremely slow moving vehicle. Only then do so if certain there’s enough space to get past without speeding and with no risk of someone coming the other way. Otherwise just hang back and relax.
James-m5qjf said:
I get just a frustrated as most people on here, but we do need to ask ourselves, what’s the rush?
There's no rush, I'll happily plod along in Lane 1/2 at 65... But last time I was on the a47 I was sitting behind a line of cars that were "stuck" behind a knackered old defender that couldn't make it up inclines, so we were all constantly adjusting speeds from 40-60mph.. Once the crawler lanes open up, they are pretty short stretches, and noone seemed to want to go for the up hill overtakes but sat on each others tails instead.. Luckily the landy was only 2 cars in front and the trusty old CRV had enough grunt to get passed the lot safely. I do miss the 530d in those situations tbh.
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