Will Coronavirus hit used car prices? (Vol 2)

Will Coronavirus hit used car prices? (Vol 2)

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Pommy

14,419 posts

230 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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jonwm said:
Saw some interesting production and forecast figures from the global markets today, snapshot of Europe below, don't see the huge upturn on production that we are all hoping for..

One of the economic downturn non believers will be along soon to denounce your data whilst not proffering any of their own to support their affirmation all is ok.

ghost83

5,596 posts

204 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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911hope said:
Tax cuts for the richer few will not benefit the economy. No credible person thinks it will.

Ironically, it will also not win the next election for the Tories.

Obviously that is a good thing, as a decade in opposition will do them and the country some good.
Yeah but Labour are already saying they will increase taxes that isn’t a good thing either

Venisonpie

4,048 posts

96 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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Pommy said:
jonwm said:
Saw some interesting production and forecast figures from the global markets today, snapshot of Europe below, don't see the huge upturn on production that we are all hoping for..

One of the economic downturn non believers will be along soon to denounce your data whilst not proffering any of their own to support their affirmation all is ok.
I think the point being made is that new car production isn't forecast to improve thus meaning used car pricing will remain strong. I could of course be wrong.

johnnyBv8

2,474 posts

205 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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RUSTILLDOWN said:
Just checked CB’s IP Address… confirmed it’s AV185.
What an oddball!

nickfrog

22,748 posts

231 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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Venisonpie said:
I think the point being made is that new car production isn't forecast to improve thus meaning used car pricing will remain strong. I could of course be wrong.
That's also how I understood it. And tbf I don't know who those "economic downturn non believers" are, I haven't seen any in this thread but perhaps I missed them.

The spinner of plates

18,075 posts

214 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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johnnyBv8 said:
RUSTILLDOWN said:
Just checked CB’s IP Address… confirmed it’s AV185.
What an oddball!
He just can’t stay away hehe

MDMA .

9,548 posts

115 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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The spinner of plates said:
johnnyBv8 said:
RUSTILLDOWN said:
Just checked CB’s IP Address… confirmed it’s AV185.
What an oddball!
He just can’t stay away hehe
Brilliant. If true.

Fast Bug

12,706 posts

175 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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nickfrog said:
Venisonpie said:
I think the point being made is that new car production isn't forecast to improve thus meaning used car pricing will remain strong. I could of course be wrong.
That's also how I understood it. And tbf I don't know who those "economic downturn non believers" are, I haven't seen any in this thread but perhaps I missed them.
VP is correct, that's what my posts have been about, limited production. It's also how I've understood others bar those that type random letters at the end of their posts

Pommy

14,419 posts

230 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Venisonpie said:
Pommy said:
jonwm said:
Saw some interesting production and forecast figures from the global markets today, snapshot of Europe below, don't see the huge upturn on production that we are all hoping for..

One of the economic downturn non believers will be along soon to denounce your data whilst not proffering any of their own to support their affirmation all is ok.
I think the point being made is that new car production isn't forecast to improve thus meaning used car pricing will remain strong. I could of course be wrong.
It's missing the basic economics of supply and demand. It doesn't matter how many you don't make if less people are buying.



Venisonpie

4,048 posts

96 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Pommy said:
It's missing the basic economics of supply and demand. It doesn't matter how many you don't make if less people are buying.
Agreed it's basic supply and demand however you could just as easily turn that statement round and say it doesn't matter if less people are buying if there's still more than required to keep the market buoyant.

Fusion777

2,456 posts

62 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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It always matters if fewer people are buying. No mainstream manufacturer of anything ever said “we’ll cut production so we can easily sell everything we make”.

Companies generally want to sell as much of something as they can for the highest price/margin that they can.

Macron

11,727 posts

180 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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The spinner of plates said:
johnnyBv8 said:
RUSTILLDOWN said:
Just checked CB’s IP Address… confirmed it’s AV185.
What an oddball!
He just can’t stay away hehe
That would require two logins as AV is active elsewhere as AV, and the writing style of the newcomer is far more Facebook (as in, juvenile linguistics, generally more "txt spk") than AV. Before we've considered the fingernails-down-a-blackboard 'The Moose' style finale.

Which would take quite a dedication. Although I suppose if you're willing to crawl up someone else's driveway to pap random cars, anything is possible...

e-honda

9,473 posts

160 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Who is RUSTILLDOWN ?
Unless they are PH staff then it would be slightly difficult to get another posters IP address.

Pommy

14,419 posts

230 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Venisonpie said:
Pommy said:
It's missing the basic economics of supply and demand. It doesn't matter how many you don't make if less people are buying.
Agreed it's basic supply and demand however you could just as easily turn that statement round and say it doesn't matter if less people are buying if there's still more than required to keep the market buoyant.
Well the very issue with over supply due to lack of demand is that it means by definition there aren't enough people to keep the market buoyant hehe





nickfrog

22,748 posts

231 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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I reckon the manufacturers have discovered yield management a long time ago, particularly when their cost basis is affected by inflation so much.

As ever, it is the balance of supply and demand that sets the price, not demand or supply looked at in isolation.

Venisonpie

4,048 posts

96 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Pommy said:
Well the very issue with over supply due to lack of demand is that it means by definition there aren't enough people to keep the market buoyant hehe
I think what the data chart was showing that there isn't likely to be over supply anytime soon. Reduced demand may still mean there is sufficient demand to meet or exceed current supply.

chickenbarns

135 posts

34 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Venisonpie said:
Pommy said:
jonwm said:
Saw some interesting production and forecast figures from the global markets today, snapshot of Europe below, don't see the huge upturn on production that we are all hoping for..

One of the economic downturn non believers will be along soon to denounce your data whilst not proffering any of their own to support their affirmation all is ok.
I think the point being made is that new car production isn't forecast to improve thus meaning used car pricing will remain strong. I could of course be wrong.
This is it exactly.

-CB

ghost83

5,596 posts

204 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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New car production might not improve in the short term but I bet demand will fall as this recession gets worse which then will level it out somewhat and will mean that supply can start to catch up

chickenbarns

135 posts

34 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Moonshot

34 posts

67 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Nice article, but I think we likely at a turning point.
  • supply chain issues easing up
  • people will have less to spend (cost of living rise)
  • interest rates going up also resulting in more expensive car loans
Together that makes more supply and less demand, seems likely that that would become visible in car prices over the coming quarter?