Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 18]

Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 18]

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W00DY

13,357 posts

190 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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g3org3y said:
d_a_n1979 said:
Heated seats + xenons + folding mirrors + proper climate control + sunroof = hurrah.

Basic screen + no nav = boo.

Also, leading bonnet edge/kidneys looks a bit 'gappy'

Comfort seats too. Would you really miss 2004 Nav?

Definietly needs the bumper tweaking.

d_a_n1979

2,651 posts

36 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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W00DY said:
g3org3y said:
d_a_n1979 said:
Heated seats + xenons + folding mirrors + proper climate control + sunroof = hurrah.

Basic screen + no nav = boo.

Also, leading bonnet edge/kidneys looks a bit 'gappy'

Comfort seats too. Would you really miss 2004 Nav?

Definietly needs the bumper tweaking.
^^^ This! Crappy 16 year old out of date nav; no ones going to miss that

Bumper should be easy enough to sort...

You lot are very fickle when it comes to V8 load luggers for not a lot of £££ laugh

Good bork factor though, I think.

Are these engines as prone to leaks as the later 50i version?

Timberwolf

5,202 posts

182 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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g3org3y said:
Also, leading bonnet edge/kidneys looks a bit 'gappy'
This seems to happen on E60/E61s if the bumper gets so much as a parking tap, I don't know how it's mounted but they seem to drop down a few mm when disturbed.

Timberwolf

5,202 posts

182 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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d_a_n1979 said:
Are these engines as prone to leaks as the later 50i version?
A little bit of picture sleuthing reveals it to be HX04CFV beneath the dealer plates.

MOT history suggests the valve stem seals went in 2016 and were attended to (advisories for smoke from exhaust and oil leak, nothing since). It's been picked up on oil leaks a few times before that but the last few years are a clean bill of health with regular usage.

I'd be a little concerned there's no photo with the engine running, a dashboard free of warning lights and the iDrive working as the computer unit is a common failure point on early E60s. More of an issue than you'd think as you lose everything - radio, parking sensors, anything else that uses the screen. But at worst that's a wasted trip if you get there to find none of the functions work.

Gruber

6,289 posts

178 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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W00DY said:
g3org3y said:
d_a_n1979 said:
Heated seats + xenons + folding mirrors + proper climate control + sunroof = hurrah.

Basic screen + no nav = boo.

Also, leading bonnet edge/kidneys looks a bit 'gappy'

Comfort seats too. Would you really miss 2004 Nav?

Definietly needs the bumper tweaking.
I like it. Contact has been made.

I wish advertisers would include reg numbers in their listings.

Gruber

6,289 posts

178 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Timberwolf said:
A little bit of picture sleuthing reveals it to be HX04CFV beneath the dealer plates.

MOT history suggests the valve stem seals went in 2016 and were attended to (advisories for smoke from exhaust and oil leak, nothing since). It's been picked up on oil leaks a few times before that but the last few years are a clean bill of health with regular usage.

I'd be a little concerned there's no photo with the engine running, a dashboard free of warning lights and the iDrive working as the computer unit is a common failure point on early E60s. More of an issue than you'd think as you lose everything - radio, parking sensors, anything else that uses the screen. But at worst that's a wasted trip if you get there to find none of the functions work.
Useful! Thanks!

Are the valve stem seals a 'once fixed forever sorted' issue or is it likely to be a recurring problem?

And are iDrives repairable?


Gruber

6,289 posts

178 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Sadly, it's just sold. And not to me.

LetsTryAgain

2,735 posts

37 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Gruber said:
Sadly, it's just sold. And not to me.
Valve stem oil seals should only ever need doing once in a vehicles life time.

Rubins4

592 posts

89 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Rubins4 said:
Can you give us some details on the LS or point us toward a Reader's Cars thread perhaps, before I get into a bout of fisticuffs with Marcq biggrin
Apologies if done so, but could CdG respond (to save day dreaming about on a mid-summer LS, if it transpires it's not specced with carpet-lined door pockets)?

Dapster

5,070 posts

144 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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rejn said:
Thanks for all the positive comments. It is an amazing car - I've loved it in the time I've had it. As we all know on here, you can't beat the quality of a W124, and I fell in love with the spec when I first saw it.

I hate selling cars at the best of times, but seeing this one leave will be difficult.


That is fantastic! Out of interest, a 300TE-24v should have headlamp wipers, which is also listed in the spec. Were they a victim of whatever Cat C'd it?

W00DY

13,357 posts

190 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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6 large already,. Guess it's such an unusual and desirable spec that the Cat marker doesn't make much difference.

CharlesdeGaulle

16,209 posts

144 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Rubins4 said:
Rubins4 said:
Can you give us some details on the LS or point us toward a Reader's Cars thread perhaps, before I get into a bout of fisticuffs with Marcq biggrin
Apologies if done so, but could CdG respond (to save day dreaming about on a mid-summer LS, if it transpires it's not specced with carpet-lined door pockets)?
Sorry old chap, I did see this but forgot. BLUF - door pockets are not carpeted and it has a rear arm rest of parsimonious despair. That might put you off!

No thread of its own but in sum: 2002 (52) LS 430. Ticked over 110,000 miles this very morning. Negatives: one front parking sensor u/s; slight cloudy delamination at bottom of front windows (after day one I never noticed it); small white-ish bloom on the bonnet, about 30 cm across; rear seats are heated but not cooled; soft close doesn't work on passenger door. Pluses: everything else works; new exhaust; fitted with continental headlights but have the UK ones in a box; fitted with decent premium cross-climates, with 4 summer tyres in my garage; nice aubergine colour, with perfect black leather and maple wood.

I can mail the photos that the dealer took of it last week if you like? Car is in Luxembourg, but closer to the time I may be able to get it back to UK, or trailored home, or there's the option of a road-trip adventure home after a flight over to collect. I've done a handful of continental road-trips and it 's been unfailingly reliable, comfortable and swift. I've had it 3 years and have averaged 28 mpg overall. It's a fine old bus and I'd love to see it stay within thread. WBAC price went up to 1600 quid so I'd see 'street-value' being around the 2 mark, all things being equal. Always a deal to be done of course.

If I had any reservations about the car, I wouldn't want to see it go to a threadist, but it's been brilliant and I'll miss it.

Timberwolf

5,202 posts

182 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Gruber said:
And are iDrives repairable?
There seem to be a few people repairing original units. The going rate appears to be quite hefty (around £450) although I imagine a quick phone call to a BMW dealership would make it feel like a relative bargain. The main difficulty is needing to get it out of the car, send it off and wait a few days for its return, although if you already have your Honda E or GR Yaris available as a barge tender that's less of an issue.

Emeye

8,781 posts

187 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Though I don't think I could ever bring myself to buy a car through collecting cars, I also saw this one while having a nosey at t'other one.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1971-mercedes-...

This is what I mean by an old Merc. Love it.


CharlesdeGaulle

16,209 posts

144 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Emeye said:
Though I don't think I could ever bring myself to buy a car through collecting cars, I also saw this one while having a nosey at t'other one.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1971-mercedes-...

This is what I mean by an old Merc. Love it.

LHD would suit me! I share the reservations about buying a car through this crowd though, and don't think I would ever do it.

The last owner for just one year is a bit off-putting.

Rubins4

592 posts

89 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
Sorry old chap...
Much obliged. I remain interested but have some further DD to undertaken (deeply unthread, I know) on 430, for some reason I thought it a 400. Air suspenders, correct?

I’ll ping pong my email over for photos and will share with the group if you are happy for me to do so?


Edited by Rubins4 on Wednesday 3rd March 15:58

Dapster

5,070 posts

144 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Emeye said:
Though I don't think I could ever bring myself to buy a car through collecting cars, I also saw this one while having a nosey at t'other one.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1971-mercedes-...

This is what I mean by an old Merc. Love it.

Side marker lights and square rear number plate make it look like a US market car with Euro lights and a km/h speedo though strange that it's a manual if that's the case.

How about more pov 80's Stalag chic. Full expensive climate control option however. And yes, that's a 4 speed manual amongst the velour...

https://www.automobiliperrone.it/scheda-mercedes-b...








21st Century Man

35,315 posts

212 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Electric windows though, I posted a W126 with manual windows yesterday.

g3org3y

16,530 posts

155 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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d_a_n1979 said:
^^^ This! Crappy 16 year old out of date nav; no ones going to miss that

Bumper should be easy enough to sort...

You lot are very fickle when it comes to V8 load luggers for not a lot of £££ laugh

Good bork factor though, I think.

Are these engines as prone to leaks as the later 50i version?
Fair point. It was more a grumble about it having the smaller screen. tongue out It's nice to see one in this colour combo rather than the usual silver over black.

Gruber said:
Useful! Thanks!

Are the valve stem seals a 'once fixed forever sorted' issue or is it likely to be a recurring problem?

And are iDrives repairable?
Re valve stem seals, depends on miles I'd have thought. Probably best to budget for every 100k miles.

Dapster

5,070 posts

144 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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21st Century Man said:
Electric windows though, I posted a W126 with manual windows yesterday.
Ok, here we go. Full werthers, carb fed, manual 4 speed, keep fit window, no air con, phase 1 so clock instead of rev counter for the entry level, and....still double thread!!







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