Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 18]

[g3org3y]

d_a_n1979 said:

W00DY said:

W201_190e said:

In a surprising turn of events the chap came back to me with an agreeable offer and I have as of Saturday sold the 190e!

I should stop dedicating my user name to my car.

Nicely done. If you act quickly you'll get first purchase of the new volume.






https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/11199525

Lovely.

Thats lovely... Shame its black and a manual

I loved the few test drives I did of 630i and 650i E63s... The 630i for me handled the best... Sounded good too

Yes, I think auto suits these best and they do sound surprisingly throaty. Shame no Pro HiFi or HUD though. Not common options, but the former especially is a cracker on the 6 Series.

Looks like a really well looked after example though. My kind of advert.

d_a_n1979 said:

LetsTryAgain said:

d_a_n1979 said:

The autobox runs really well in these IMO.

Suits the car, a proper long distance GT car

Well personally, I'd get a V8. Which would then be an auto.
I think a *30i is a waste of time in a car like the 6er, which really has got to be considered a GT.
But as thread is so against the V8, if I had to have a 6 cylinder, i'd try and get a manual.

Why do you think it's a waste?

The engine is more than capable of getting the car to license losing speeds in no time at all and with it being that bit lighter; it makes for the handling of the car to be better IMO

All personal preference I know, but I don't agree the engines a waste; it works really well and it is, slightly, less troublesome than the V8 in these. Cheaper to fix and maintain too

The 3.0 N52 is a great engine. Never found that my 630 felt underpowered.

Worth checking out fastbikes76's Reader's Ride thread - he's got both a 630 and 650.

Edited by g3org3y on Sunday 7th February 18:14

[r129sl]

My first post of the new volume. This is so nice-looking that if I had any money I'd be investigating buying it before posting it here. I thought it must be a Japanese import at first (no bad thing) but i am pretty sure it is not. Anyway, midnight blue paint with blue leather w124 E320 with the perfect specification: the biggest motor, the four speed box, air con and heated seats. The other extras are nice (and pretty complete): electric seats, orthopaedic driver's seat, and either ASD or ASD and self-levelling rear suspension (I am pretty sure it has both: it has the warning lamp in the instrument cluster for ASD and it has two return feeds to the hydraulic fluid reservoir). It also has a factory "special" headunit with four speakers and, if I am not mistaken, a Hirschmann antenna. I also note it has a sportline steering wheel and alloy wheels; no idea whether it has sportline suspension: I'd hope not. It is missing an engine under tray. What a nice car.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MERCEDES-E320-SALOON-W1...

[r129sl]

But why would you pay £6k for a w124 with a 3.2litre six when you could pay a lot less (assuming you can find your way through the forest of Shill bids) for a w210 with a 4.3litre V8?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MERCEDES-BENZ-E-CLASS-E...

[728 days later]

That W124 is lovely and must have cost an absolute fortune from new. Roll on vol 18!

[W00DY]

That's very attractive. No cruise though.

[CharlesdeGaulle]

728 days later said:

Roll on vol 18!

Er, we're in Vol 18.

[Hammerhead]

Gerald has been on the smack this weekend...







Plus points: it's not wearing a leaper on the bonnet and only £4995.

Don't look it up on AT.

[0a]

r129sl said:

But why would you pay £6k for a w124 with a 3.2litre six when you could pay a lot less (assuming you can find your way through the forest of Shill bids) for a w210 with a 4.3litre V8?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MERCEDES-BENZ-E-CLASS-E...

I would take the w124; it's stunning. Happy 18th thread!

[CharlesdeGaulle]

r129sl said:

Delicious. Find me one of those in LHD and it'll be on my drive.

[LetsTryAgain]

d_a_n1979 said:

Why do you think it's a waste?

The engine is more than capable of getting the car to license losing speeds in no time at all and with it being that bit lighter; it makes for the handling of the car to be better IMO

All personal preference I know, but I don't agree the engines a waste; it works really well and it is, slightly, less troublesome than the V8 in these. Cheaper to fix and maintain too

Previous generation, admittedly, but my only experience of BMW auto's have been E39 and E46.
Having owned manual and auto sixes in both variants (with the same engine), the manuals were a million times better/nicer to drive.

Owned an E38 that was auto (V8, natch) and that suited auto.
Owned an E66 (that may not be correct model designation; 2006) 750i, auto was great in that, too.

So my first line was a lie, haha. I have more BMW auto gearbox experience than I initially realised.
But I still preferred manual versions of my BMW sixes.

[r129sl]

W00DY said:

That's very attractive. No cruise though.

Arrggghhh. How did I miss that? And it has sports suspension. Meh. (I believe young people used to say this about five years ago.)

[d_a_n1979]

LetsTryAgain said:

d_a_n1979 said:

Why do you think it's a waste?

The engine is more than capable of getting the car to license losing speeds in no time at all and with it being that bit lighter; it makes for the handling of the car to be better IMO

All personal preference I know, but I don't agree the engines a waste; it works really well and it is, slightly, less troublesome than the V8 in these. Cheaper to fix and maintain too

Previous generation, admittedly, but my only experience of BMW auto's have been E39 and E46.
Having owned manual and auto sixes in both variants (with the same engine), the manuals were a million times better/nicer to drive.

Owned an E38 that was auto (V8, natch) and that suited auto.
Owned an E66 (that may not be correct model designation; 2006) 750i, auto was great in that, too.

So my first line was a lie, haha. I have more BMW auto gearbox experience than I initially realised.
But I still preferred manual versions of my BMW sixes.

An E46 330i I can see why a manual would suit it, more so something like the Clubsport or 2 door coupe; but for me, the E39s suit the autobox very well and I'd never look at one with a manual. They're not a B road hoonigan IMO; they're a luxo-saloon or touring, for long distance journeys to be covered in comfort.

Apart from the M5; E39s just don't suit a manual box IMO. But then again that is my personal preference and I'm an old fart before my time at 41

I have driven an E39 530i in manual guise; I felt he gear change/throw was overly long, notchy and just not an enjoyable drive. That was with a brand new clutch and serviced box; and from what I've read about them, that's how they all seem to be, even the M5. But know the 545i short shift kit can be fitted (I think it's that); which apparently makes it much better

I have driven a 330Ci (that's the E46 coupe isn't it); that was a belting car, manual box was great. The car was on AP coilovers & with a BBK; so it did have a different feel to it...

It's a car I've touted for the wife and she'd be interested in one, when we get out of the lockdown and she may start to commute again, and to replace the Racing Jazz

[j4ck100]

I’m sure a cruise control retrofit would be an option

[anonymous-user]

r129sl said:

My first post of the new volume. This is so nice-looking that if I had any money I'd be investigating buying it before posting it here. I thought it must be a Japanese import at first (no bad thing) but i am pretty sure it is not. Anyway, midnight blue paint with blue leather w124 E320 with the perfect specification: the biggest motor, the four speed box, air con and heated seats. The other extras are nice (and pretty complete): electric seats, orthopaedic driver's seat, and either ASD or ASD and self-levelling rear suspension (I am pretty sure it has both: it has the warning lamp in the instrument cluster for ASD and it has two return feeds to the hydraulic fluid reservoir). It also has a factory "special" headunit with four speakers and, if I am not mistaken, a Hirschmann antenna. I also note it has a sportline steering wheel and alloy wheels; no idea whether it has sportline suspension: I'd hope not. It is missing an engine under tray. What a nice car.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MERCEDES-E320-SALOON-W1...

Lovely car, but this:

"notable bill in 2012 totalling £14,246.45"

I'm sorry but there is nothing on that car that should have cost £14k, other than buying three or four new ones in 2012. My experience of flicking through the bills for my S600 very strongly suggests that Merc dealers *and* Merc "specialists" absolutely bend you over. In the case of one specialist my car has spent time with I'm now convinced they are actually crooks.

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 7th February 19:24

[TyrannosauRoss Lex]

Hammerhead said:

Gerald has been on the smack this weekend...







Plus points: it's not wearing a leaper on the bonnet and only £4995.

Don't look it up on AT.

We had that last week. We don't need it again!

[j4ck100]

stickleback123 said:

Lovely car, but this:

"notable bill in 2012 totalling £14,246.45"

I'm sorry but there is nothing on that car that should have cost £14k, other than buying three or four new ones in 2012. My experience of flicking through the bills for my S600 very strongly suggests that Merc dealers *and* Merc "specialists" absolutely bend you over. In the case of one specialist my car has spent time with I'm now convinced they are actually crooks.

Edited by stickleback123 on Sunday 7th February 19:24

Couldn’t agree more

[728 days later]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

728 days later said:

Roll on vol 18!

Er, we're in Vol 18.

Yes that’s what I meant old bean

[TyrannosauRoss Lex]

j4ck100 said:

stickleback123 said:

Lovely car, but this:

"notable bill in 2012 totalling £14,246.45"

I'm sorry but there is nothing on that car that should have cost £14k, other than buying three or four new ones in 2012. My experience of flicking through the bills for my S600 very strongly suggests that Merc dealers *and* Merc "specialists" absolutely bend you over. In the case of one specialist my car has spent time with I'm now convinced they are actually crooks.

Edited by stickleback123 on Sunday 7th February 19:24

Couldn’t agree more

£14k in 2012? Jeez, what on earth was done? Total. Rebuild?!

[Emeye]

I would love to see that itemised bill. I can’t guess what it was. Brand new engine?

[W00DY]

stickleback123 said:

Lovely car, but this:

"notable bill in 2012 totalling £14,246.45"

I'm sorry but there is nothing on that car that should have cost £14k, other than buying three or four new ones in 2012. My experience of flicking through the bills for my S600 very strongly suggests that Merc dealers *and* Merc "specialists" absolutely bend you over. In the case of one specialist my car has spent time with I'm now convinced they are actually crooks.

Edited by stickleback123 on Sunday 7th February 19:24

Wow. "Here's a bill for more than the nicest example in the World would cost"