ANPR - Have Your Say

ANPR - Have Your Say

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kambites

61,021 posts

185 months

Monday 15th February
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
kambites said:
I'd be fascinated to see the relationship between support for ANPR and age. I suspect there's a strong correlation.
I bet you are correct. The older you get the more you understand.
Yeah that's what the grumpy old buggers said about Brexit too. hehe

hucumber

1,379 posts

61 months

Monday 15th February
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Trevor555 said:
Hence one of the questions on how long they can hold onto the data.

I learnt over the years that many of the "failing to stop" incidents were drivers who were uninsured, or over the drink limit. And nowadays add cloned plates to that.

So anything to get uninsured drivers, as well as the plate cloners, has to be as good thing?
Yes I agree that for those purposes it would be a good thing. But I, like many others, do go a bit over the speed limit from time to time, when conditions allow, in the right place when its appropriate. This, I fear will become the main use for ANPR if its rolled out, it will produce many convictions which will convince people that its doing a good job, and a lot of revenue.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

26,288 posts

199 months

Monday 15th February
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Marcq said:
If you're really clever in your data analysis, surely cloned plates won't work if Anpr is everywhere? If you see the original car in Cambridge, and twenty minutes later the plate pings in Oxford, the gendems can then pull both cars and arrest the crims?
There is a way around everything. Security is hit and miss, you win some you lose some.

J4CKO

33,403 posts

164 months

Monday 15th February
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Get a bicycle, no ANPR on your lycra clad buttocks biggrin

The whom motorway Network is covered in ANPR and cameras, dont worry about it.

Cold

10,793 posts

54 months

Monday 15th February
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Every day a journey said:
mygoldfishbowl said:
Cold said:
You were 7.5 miles from your home. Here's a covid fine.
"The group of around 25 police officers used ANPR during the routine exercise, pulling cars over and speaking to drivers through the window"

"One Fixed Penalty Notice was issued for a coronavirus lockdown breach"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9259767/P...
Just last weekend I was pulled over heading into Dorset who have, quite rightly been quite strict.

Helping a friend move from Sussex to Dorset so that was perfectly justifiable. ANPR set up just further up the road, Sussex plates, got pulled. They knew.

It took all of 5 minutes out of my day.

I'm still all for ANPR.
That's lovely. But I, and many other law abiding members of the public, want to be left alone by the police. I really don't need them to check up on my legal activities. I really don't want them to put me under any more surveillance.
The behaviour from far too many officers of all ranks during this past year hasn't exactly shown the police in the best light with too many instances of them belligerently attempting to enforce non-existent laws.

This is where someone makes a "hilarious" quip about paranoia, but seriously, leave me alone, stop spying on me.

944 Man

312 posts

96 months

Monday 15th February
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J4CKO said:
Get a bicycle, no ANPR on your lycra clad buttocks biggrin

The whom motorway Network is covered in ANPR and cameras, dont worry about it.
You'll be next. They will mandate a registration number on your left cheek.

944 Man

312 posts

96 months

Monday 15th February
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Maybe they will force everyone to display clearly and in an approved font, their personal registration number. All thanks to feeble minded people like 2SB.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

26,288 posts

199 months

Monday 15th February
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944 Man said:
Maybe they will force everyone to display clearly and in an approved font, their personal registration number. All thanks to feeble minded people like 2SB.
Steady old boy. hehe I've been accused of a lot of things but never that. Did you not read that I'm a CCTV installer and that my comments were bait for the excitables! biggrin

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

26,288 posts

199 months

Monday 15th February
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..but all I would add is more people have been helped by CCTV (in general) than have been harmed.

swisstoni

10,621 posts

243 months

Monday 15th February
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It exists. It’s not going away. I don’t care that the police know where I’m going.
If I was that bothered I wouldn’t drive a big thing with registration plates front and back.

rallycross

11,132 posts

201 months

Monday 15th February
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SuperBaaaad said:
Cold said:
You were 7.5 miles from your home. Here's a covid fine.
Hahahahaha. Brilliant.
this is the future don't doubt it.


citizensm1th

7,962 posts

101 months

Monday 15th February
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944 Man said:
J4CKO said:
Get a bicycle, no ANPR on your lycra clad buttocks biggrin

The whom motorway Network is covered in ANPR and cameras, dont worry about it.
You'll be next. They will mandate a registration number on your left cheek.
a bar code or qr code on every adult cyclists forehead and i might agree with plods ambition to watch us all all of the time

944 Man

312 posts

96 months

Monday 15th February
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
..but all I would add is more people have been helped by CCTV (in general) than have been harmed.
I do appear to be on the excitable side on this topic.

Terminator X

10,745 posts

168 months

Monday 15th February
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MB140 said:
More ANPR the better. Increases the odds of catching those driving illegally. Helps stop criminals using the roads for other nefarious activities.

Don’t see the issue with ANPR.
Combine it with face recognition then the old criminals would be in real trouble whistle

TX.

Terminator X

10,745 posts

168 months

Monday 15th February
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OpulentBob said:
The slow, quiet transition to "We have now integrated average speed checking availability within the ANPR network" would be the only thing to concern me.

We (in the traffic industry) already use ANPR for origin/destination surveys, and journey time monitoring, so it wouldn't be a big (technical) step.

Tinfoil hats, don't speed, blah blah, something something.
Software update? Nah will NEVER happen of course ...

TX.

Terminator X

10,745 posts

168 months

Monday 15th February
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deckster said:
There are many perfectly reasonable and highly powerful objections to blanket ANPR and vehicle tracking.

"It stops me from driving my car quickly" is surely the weakest of them.
So if they pinged you based on average speed between 2 points how would you argue against it? The tech never fails of course #guilty

TX.

OpulentBob

11,452 posts

144 months

Monday 15th February
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deckster said:
OpulentBob said:
The slow, quiet transition to "We have now integrated average speed checking availability within the ANPR network" would be the only thing to concern me.

We (in the traffic industry) already use ANPR for origin/destination surveys, and journey time monitoring, so it wouldn't be a big (technical) step.

Tinfoil hats, don't speed, blah blah, something something.
There are many perfectly reasonable and highly powerful objections to blanket ANPR and vehicle tracking.

"It stops me from driving my car quickly" is surely the weakest of them.
Maybe, but it's still the only part that concerns me. What's your point?

ScoobyChris

900 posts

166 months

Monday 15th February
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Terminator X said:
So if they pinged you based on average speed between 2 points how would you argue against it? The tech never fails of course #guilty.
I reckon if there was a car running about with cloned plates at the opposite end of the country you might get some impressive speeding tickets if you both go out for a drive at the same time! biggrin

Chris

321boost

1,165 posts

34 months

Tuesday 16th February
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Marcq said:
If you're really clever in your data analysis, surely cloned plates won't work if Anpr is everywhere? If you see the original car in Cambridge, and twenty minutes later the plate pings in Oxford, the gendems can then pull both cars and arrest the crims?
There is a way around everything. Security is hit and miss, you win some you lose some.
I agree, so what is the way around these cameras?

321boost

1,165 posts

34 months

Tuesday 16th February
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ScoobyChris said:
Terminator X said:
So if they pinged you based on average speed between 2 points how would you argue against it? The tech never fails of course #guilty.
I reckon if there was a car running about with cloned plates at the opposite end of the country you might get some impressive speeding tickets if you both go out for a drive at the same time! biggrin

Chris
I wouldnt know if to accept the ticket with pride or contest it laugh