Goodyear Eagle F1 Asym 5

[Klippie]

I had Assy 3's on my Swift Sport and I was convinced I couldn't crash it...they were phenomenal tyres so I can only imagine the 5's will be even better.

And they wore well too.

[gizlaroc]

RVB said:

I can get PS4 for about £10 a corner more than Eagle 5 but most tests suggest the Goodyear is more comfortable.

I put them on my last car and didn't find them comfy at all, in fact found them only slightly better than the run flats it came with.

I actually swapped out for some PS4.


I found the PS4, on a rwd BMW Z4 coupe, to be a much better tyre. More progressive when the back started to go and in the wet they were 95% as good as in the dry.

Price wise they were identical in the sizes I had, so didn't have any expense bias.

I had just done the suspension and had a hunter 4 wheel alignment and the PS4 blew me away how good it was on that car.

That was same car, new suspension, all alignment perfect and going straight from Eagle Asymmetric 5 to PS4.

The Eagle Asymmetric 5 on super smooth roads actually felt a bit firmer, many might call this sportier, but the slightly softer feeling PS4 was better for it on 95% of UK roads, it had a bit of bite on fast corners and didn't skip about at all.

Can't wait for more sizes in the PS4S.

[nomis36]

I’m thinking about these instead of PS4’s next time round. I’ve not tried either but looking on black circles there isn’t a big difference in price for the 18” staggered set up on my 3 series. With discounts the PS4’s come in at £460 and the goodyears are £422 for the full sets.
The safe bet is to go with the Michelin’s because everybody raves about them but I do like to be a bit contrary sometimes

[trickywoo]

nomis36 said:

I’m thinking about these instead of PS4’s next time round. I’ve not tried either but looking on black circles there isn’t a big difference in price for the 18” staggered set up on my 3 series. With discounts the PS4’s come in at £460 and the goodyears are £422 for the full sets.
The safe bet is to go with the Michelin’s because everybody raves about them but I do like to be a bit contrary sometimes

Are you thinking PS4S or just PS4? There is quite a difference and the Goodyears are often rated higher than the PS4.

[Sticks.]

nomis36 said:

I’m thinking about these instead of PS4’s next time round. I’ve not tried either but looking on black circles there isn’t a big difference in price for the 18” staggered set up on my 3 series. With discounts the PS4’s come in at £460 and the goodyears are £422 for the full sets.
The safe bet is to go with the Michelin’s because everybody raves about them but I do like to be a bit contrary sometimes

FWIW I found them a big improvement to the MPSS (which everybody raved about) on my 235, both grip and ride.

mcpoot said:

I've had a couple of sets on my TT. Good grip in all weathers, reasonably comfortable but don't last any time at all hence I've switched to Pirelli P Zero this time.

Not sure how they are now, but a while back when I had PZero Rossos on a Mk2 T 3.2 they got very jittery when down to 5mm. The Audi delivery driver said that was normal. I replaced them with F1s which I think lasted @ 20k, then another set.

[Haltamer]

RVB said:

Also I'm planning to change because Pirelli name everything P Zero which makes it difficult trying to explain to the tyre fitter/garage which version I want/need, or takes ages looking at tread pattern pictures on websites to find the P Zero I want.

You'd think they were perfectly lined up for P Zero, One, Two, Three etc.

[nomis36]

trickywoo said:

Are you thinking PS4S or just PS4? There is quite a difference and the Goodyears are often rated higher than the PS4.

Just PS4’s. The S’s are more track focused aren’t they?

[HM-2]

Got the Asym 5s on my M140i. 95% as good as the MPSS that it was originally wearing in the dry, about twice as good in the wet, and they feel a bit crisper on the turn-in, likely because Michelin sidewalls are composed of blancmange.

[RVB]

nomis36 said:

trickywoo said:

Are you thinking PS4S or just PS4? There is quite a difference and the Goodyears are often rated higher than the PS4.

Just PS4’s. The S’s are more track focused aren’t they?

As I understand it the PS4 and Eagle F1 are more for a fairly sporty daily driver whereas the PS4S and Eagle F1 Supersport are more dry track focused with some sacrifices in the wet and in comfort.

[jon-]

RVB said:

nomis36 said:

trickywoo said:

Are you thinking PS4S or just PS4? There is quite a difference and the Goodyears are often rated higher than the PS4.

Just PS4’s. The S’s are more track focused aren’t they?

As I understand it the PS4 and Eagle F1 are more for a fairly sporty daily driver whereas the PS4S and Eagle F1 Supersport are more dry track focused with some sacrifices in the wet and in comfort.

It's a bit of a sliding scale. I'd say the PS4S is probably as comfortable as the Asymmetric 5, even being intended for the bigger wheel size as this gen of Michelin tyres is more comfort bias.

The Asymmetric 5 is currently the best rated summer UHP tyre on the site - https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Goodyear/Eagle-F1... , you can't really go wrong with them these days

[hyphen]

Many years ago I read/heard Eagle Asym were good. Bought, had no issues, so kept buying them. And still do.

Reasonably priced, very easy to find one same day if you get a puncture, seem to last a decent amount of miles, some rim protection.

If it ain't broke...

[buggalugs]

I got a full set for the merc for the same reason as OP, good reviews and comfy side of sporty. Was very happy with them.

[Aiminghigh123]

I have these on my Saab 2.8T.

For the price I can’t think of a better tyre.

I have tried Rainsport 3 and while £15 a corner cheaper at the time, in the dry it showed. Wet they were better.

[Blue Oval84]

Have the F1 Asym 5's on my S80. I didn't pick the Eagles, they came with the car, but they're very good so I've made sure I've replaced like-for-like when the time has come. Very good wet grip. Hard to judge whether they're "comfortable" as the S80 is a magic carpet to begin with.

[silverthorn2151]

On my second set on my DS7 Crossback and, like many others, really rate them.

[RVB]

Thanks for the replies - they were helpful.

So I've had the Eagle F1 Asym 5 tyres on for a few hundred miles on various roads and at various speeds and although they might still be 'running in', I think the Eagles feel less sporty but more comfy than the P Zeros they replaced.

[jon-]

More tread depth means more block movement which makes comparing old vs new a little tricky, but out of interest, did you have the original P Zero or the PZ4?

[RVB]

jon- said:

More tread depth means more block movement which makes comparing old vs new a little tricky, but out of interest, did you have the original P Zero or the PZ4?

The P Zeros I took off had the pattern in the picture in the link below (date of manufacture of the tyres was 2017) so I suppose they could be called the 'original' P Zero.

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Pirelli/P-Zero.ht...

Edited by RVB on Tuesday 2nd March 00:02

[jon-]

RVB said:

jon- said:

More tread depth means more block movement which makes comparing old vs new a little tricky, but out of interest, did you have the original P Zero or the PZ4?

The P Zeros I took off had the pattern in the picture in the link below (date of manufacture of the tyres was 2017) so I suppose they could be called the 'original' P Zero.

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Pirelli/P-Zero.ht...

Edited by RVB on Tuesday 2nd March 00:02

Yeah, that's the OG P Zero. The new one is softer on the sidewall, perhaps even more so than the Asym 5 :/ Got them in my test this year, if I can ever get into France to test.

[callahan]

I was reading last week that Birds recommend the Asym 3 for an F30 3 series after trying out various options, so was thinking about ditching the run flats for them as soon as possible.

I've had them on various cars in the past and have always liked them, but does anyone know if there's much difference going from 3 to 5?