RE: BMW M3 Competition (F80) | Spotted

RE: BMW M3 Competition (F80) | Spotted

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jackcactii

34 posts

2 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Everybody here's talking about how these cars make for great daily drivers, which is true, but the F8x generation M3 is VERY capable on track in stock guise.

It's lighter than an E9x M3, with more potent braking system and firmer chassis (e.g., torsional rigidity and rear subframe bolted to the body). All it needs really is better brake fluid and some track pads for it to chase GT3s on the weekends.

This is a true dual-duty vehicle and it is pretty sad to me that the "track" part of the car gets often overlooked in the sea of chav-spec cars with pops & bangs that only see neighbourhoods or motorways.

Mine is a base manual car with 18" rims and cloth seats. Never selling it.

macky17

2,033 posts

153 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Love the look of these but everytime I start to consider one, I run into the same issue: the Guilia QV...

Chestrockwell

2,420 posts

121 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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https://youtu.be/GwCIEjdzvCk


Anybody seen this? Robert Kubica spanking an early M4 round the Nurburgring. Never seen a M4 driven like that before, what a machine! Yes it’s had suspension & brake upgrades however I can’t get over how stable it is and how strong the engine is. Engine is completely stock too

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat

11,614 posts

59 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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jackcactii said:
Everybody here's talking about how these cars make for great daily drivers, which is true, but the F8x generation M3 is VERY capable on track in stock guise.
It is, but it's heavy and the MPSS tyres take a hammering.

As for the QV. Was tempted, but the issue with crap dealers (local is Arnold Clark FFS), tech spec and historical reputation with reliability put me off (it was to be my daily). Sure I'd have loved driving it but not living with as much. Personal preference, but I prefer the look of the M3.

ndj

222 posts

186 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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"In 2010, PH tested a Competition Packed E90"

Really?

R33FAL

364 posts

132 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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I have had one for 2 years now having had an E92 M3 for 4 years before that. Have to agree on the looks- think they look very “purposeful” compared to an E92


Sub5

162 posts

14 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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macky17 said:
Love the look of these but everytime I start to consider one, I run into the same issue: the Guilia QV...
This was exactly the same issue I had. There's something just a little more special about the Giulia QV....


Julian Thompson

1,802 posts

202 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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fur53y said:
The competition pack is often credited with “fixing” the early M3/M4 “waywardness” and some of the hardware changes did make a difference but I believe a lot of what got improved was via software and any F8x model can be updated to the latest iStep version to receive those benefits.

I have a base 2016 M3 and I’ve had the software upgraded twice - once to the 2018 version and again just recently. It was really wayward on the original software but the 2018 changed the gearbox, throttle mapping, esp, steering weight, damping and diff to make it much more civilised and less trigger happy with spinning wheels and abrupt with catching it.

The 2020 software is another level again, everything is improved and the car feels much more trustworthy and developed - smoother changes, holds gears better, less twitchy on first 5% throttle, damping more controlled when pressing on and when you have a spirited drive the car feels linear, predictable and resists getting deflected by broken tarmac, a far cry from the bucking bronco I bought on day 1.

Anyway - they’re all fantastic daily drivers with a rewarding chassis for those times you’re without family and easily works as a family car (480L boot, good rear space).



Edited by fur53y on Wednesday 3rd March 08:07
I previously had a 2016 non comp car and it was considerably more exciting than the 2017 comp version.

The comp pack increased the spring rates far too high when compared to the earlier car and also it restricted the boost in the lower gears.

You’re definitely right that the cars are all essentially very very similar and simple spring rate tuning and software swaps can transform these cars.

I have mine on eibach springs that are half way between non comp and comp rates, and a few software tweaks and its simply wonderful.

PS diesel power delivery? If you wish. But one point I’d make is that unlike a diesel they keep pulling hard up top as well as knocking your head off at low rpm. When I get the rare chance to wring the M4 out down my favourite road I emerge at the other end of it shaking my head in awe at the thing. They’re flipping great!

fuchsiasteve

291 posts

170 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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Sub5 said:
This was exactly the same issue I had. There's something just a little more special about the Giulia QV....

Indeed the Giulia has moved the game on and makes the Germans look so ordinary looking styling wise. The Alfa looks better, goes better and far fewer on the roads.

Ali95

7 posts

24 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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R33FAL said:
I have had one for 2 years now having had an E92 M3 for 4 years before that. Have to agree on the looks- think they look very “purposeful” compared to an E92

Oh god that is beautiful. Looks like a san Marino blue but just to be sure what colour is that?

I would love to own a san Marino blue or azurite black if I was to purchase a f80 gen M car.

TNH

504 posts

111 months

Wednesday 3rd March
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I absolutely love my M4. Perfect daily for me (no kids) and is a relative bargain when you consider the discounts available. Mine had a dealer deposit contribution of £26k ish so list price is almost irrelevant when looking at depreciation.

crusty

634 posts

184 months

Thursday 4th March
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Much as I love an M3, at this price point I would have to buy something like this..

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202006109...


Chestrockwell

2,420 posts

121 months

Thursday 4th March
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crusty said:
Much as I love an M3, at this price point I would have to buy something like this..

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202006109...
Good luck with that, 70k miles with no warranty being sold by motorhub

crusty

634 posts

184 months

Thursday 4th March
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Chestrockwell said:
Good luck with that, 70k miles with no warranty being sold by motorhub
Similar age and mileage to the M3 in question and £3k cheaper, 1 owner FSH, seems like a fair comparison?


had ham

4,498 posts

147 months

Thursday 4th March
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fuchsiasteve said:
Sub5 said:
This was exactly the same issue I had. There's something just a little more special about the Giulia QV....

Indeed the Giulia has moved the game on and makes the Germans look so ordinary looking styling wise. The Alfa looks better, goes better and far fewer on the roads.
Just as well we all like different things I guess!

Engine aside, there was not one thing I experienced with the G QV that worked in its' favour - IMO it just looks horribly dated, particularly inside, and I couldn't live with those cliched telephone dial wheels. Perhaps it has a slight edge on the drive, but in daily 'normal' use I'm not convinced there's much in it at all. And of course there is the dealer network to contend with, in terms of quantity, and more importantly, quality. All IMO of course!

Variety is the spice of life, and whilst it doesn't work for me, it clearly does for others, and long may that continue!

SWoll

10,854 posts

222 months

Thursday 4th March
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crusty said:
Chestrockwell said:
Good luck with that, 70k miles with no warranty being sold by motorhub
Similar age and mileage to the M3 in question and £3k cheaper, 1 owner FSH, seems like a fair comparison?
And only £5k less than the next cheapest non insurance case QF on Autotrader.

I would suggest doing some research into the seller..

Edited by SWoll on Thursday 4th March 15:31

SuperBaaaad

1,800 posts

183 months

Thursday 4th March
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Andrew-396pl said:
I run one as my daily driver. Its a fantastic mix of comfortable commuter car and at the press of a button - a noisy handful that puts a smile on your face. These are easily modded to 515hp and really get a wiggle on.
Mine had 28 grand off list price as a pre reg.
That looks awesome pal.

b80

174 posts

60 months

Friday 5th March
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Bought a 17 cp last month. Absolutely love it. May not have the sound of the v8, but torque available right through rev range is immense. Coming from a 1.8 civic, engine sounds great to my ears, screams once over 4000k revs, burbles when taking foot off throttle at certain rpms, barks changing gears at higher revs etc.

Looks spot on for me from all angles.can't stop looking at it in the drive and after parking it when out : D

Extended leather interior is not overly glitzy, but feels refined and premium in an understated way.

I haven't even pushed it anywhere near its full capabilities, nor do I want to really. Insane how quickly it moves with little effort. At same time, can work ok as family car after selecting comfort suspension... I don;t do camping trips, own dogs etc, so saloons are fine for me.

Was umming and arrghing for years about buying a golf r, s3, s5. Glad I held out for the m3, which I've wanted since the 90's.








Edited by b80 on Friday 5th March 04:43

pSyCoSiS

2,843 posts

169 months

Friday 5th March
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I love these, and to me, the proportions are just spot on - look way better as the saloon.

In a good few years time when I can afford to, would like to replace my wife's 335i with one. Individual Mystic Purple with all the option boxes ticked would be nice!

Pomsteroonie

80 posts

159 months

Saturday 6th March
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I really don't get why so many people love the M3 and then totally dislike the M4.

This was my M3




This is my M4CS




I think they are equally good looking but cannot fathom the lack of love for the M4