RE: Audi RS e-tron GT | UK Review

RE: Audi RS e-tron GT | UK Review

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Super_G

848 posts

63 months

Thursday 4th March
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As many have said. They would look twice. I like it apart from the light bar across the boot lid. Very decent effort from Audi.

swisstoni

10,762 posts

244 months

Thursday 4th March
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cedrichn said:
swisstoni said:
I'm sure people did feel the same about horses at the introduction of horseless carriages.
And no doubt the early advocates of cars had the same insufferable proselytizing attitude that EV early adopters have.

But eventually normal people came around to choosing what suited them best. And that's where we'll end up again.
Are you saying that moving from ICE to EV is a comparable step than moving from horses to cars ?
I was responding to another poster who raised the horse image.
But it was a change of motive power requiring a big change in supporting infrastructure and attitudes.
So it may not be a laughable as you seem to find it.

cedrichn

259 posts

16 months

Thursday 4th March
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swisstoni said:
I was responding to another poster who raised the horse image.
But it was a change of motive power requiring a big change in supporting infrastructure and attitudes.
So it may not be a laughable as you seem to find it.
I think we can't agree on the definition of "big": it is still a car, and do what a car do. Not more. I would even say, from a user perspective, it does less: you need to plug it and you need to wait more at the "filling station" to do less miles... So yes, maybe we can agree: users have to change their attitude, by expecting less from the same product.

Amateurish

6,662 posts

187 months

Thursday 4th March
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CDP said:
Amateurish said:
The standard model 3 is about twice the price of the Leaf on lease / finance, which is really the only important financial metric these days.
Can I afford it? - A rather important metric if you ask me.
Exactly, can I afford the monthly payment? Leaf Vs Model 3 is not really a comparison because the latter will be twice as much as a monthly amount.

Fastdruid

7,067 posts

117 months

Thursday 4th March
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cedrichn said:
EV is just another way of moving a car. Same difference as between petrol and diesel. It is nothing revolutionary at all
Indeed. They still have the same issues they had over 100 years ago too. Cost and range.

CDP

6,788 posts

219 months

Thursday 4th March
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LuS1fer said:
CDP said:
Amateurish said:
The standard model 3 is about twice the price of the Leaf on lease / finance, which is really the only important financial metric these days.
Can I afford it? - A rather important metric if you ask me.
If the Audi cost the same as a Leaf, hardly anyone would complain - but the future for most people is a Leaf/Corsa/208/Bini.

God, that Tesla interior is f***ing grim, isn't it? Looks like some duffer cobbled it up on a lathe or bought it in Argos rofl
For most a Corsa, 208 etc is the reality anyhow if they were buying/renting new.

I like the uncluttered nature of the Tesla but it could do with a few basic instruments and controls for stuff like the heater combined with an integrated touchscreen. The trim looks cheap though.

Conversely while the return to buttons on the Audi is welcome that particular model is a bit black but I know they will have some warmer colours so hardly a criticism.

oedipus

120 posts

31 months

Thursday 4th March
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Holgate86 said:
I would like to go EV for my next "main" car. But however good this car looks and performs the range isn't good enough for me to visit my son (290 miles return) once a month with a 280 mile range and the current charging network.

No matter how good the cars are, the infrastructure, maybe apart from Tesla, is pants. I recently watched a review of another Audi EV in which he did a couple of 250 mile trips, the first trip went OK but the second was a disaster when his planned charging stop was occupied which would have meant another hour to his scheduled 50 minute stop. He ended up scratching around for another charger.....

One charger at a Shell garage....8 fuel pumps, says it all really.
I do wonder a tipping point and the perspective when it’s 8ev points and one fuel pump: will range anxiety issues transfer to the dwindling ICE stock?

burman

279 posts

178 months

Friday 5th March
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J4CKO said:
Game changer will be Solid State batteries when they can make them work for EV's, potential for dropping a fair amount of weight for the same range or increasing the range, or a combination thereof.

When is the big question though, EV's work for some folk now, that will be the catalyst for making them viable for a lot more. I think it will happen, I wouldn't bet against it but how long and will they be financially viable for cars that aren't 100 grand or more ?

I think that would bring the weight in line with ICE cars, possibly even undercut as less weight in the battery, can reduce weight elsewhere and less power is used carting the battery round so it doesnt need to be as big. A Model 3 battery is half a ton, take 200 kilos out of that and the car is down around 1500/1600 kilos, same or lighter than a comparable ICE car.

Totally agree regards solid state batteries, the last I read was that Toyota said they will not be commercially viable until 2035 as at present they are effing expensive. Boris will be gone by then, but its bad news for Greta.

SidewaysSi

8,837 posts

199 months

Friday 5th March
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fblm said:
scratchchin







The last time I was in something that looked like that Audi interior, it was during a wild night out in Amsterdam.

SWoll

11,073 posts

223 months

Friday 5th March
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CDP said:
LuS1fer said:
CDP said:
Amateurish said:
The standard model 3 is about twice the price of the Leaf on lease / finance, which is really the only important financial metric these days.
Can I afford it? - A rather important metric if you ask me.
If the Audi cost the same as a Leaf, hardly anyone would complain - but the future for most people is a Leaf/Corsa/208/Bini.

God, that Tesla interior is f***ing grim, isn't it? Looks like some duffer cobbled it up on a lathe or bought it in Argos rofl
For most a Corsa, 208 etc is the reality anyhow if they were buying/renting new.

I like the uncluttered nature of the Tesla but it could do with a few basic instruments and controls for stuff like the heater combined with an integrated touchscreen. The trim looks cheap though.

Conversely while the return to buttons on the Audi is welcome that particular model is a bit black but I know they will have some warmer colours so hardly a criticism.
They aren't the best pictures of the 3 to be fair.




Totally agree the RS E-Tron is superior on both counts but then it is double the price and has a long design history to call upon so would hope so?

1974foggy

343 posts

109 months

Friday 5th March
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The Fisker Karma is still my favourite looking EV

fblm

18,760 posts

228 months

Friday 5th March
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1974foggy said:
The Fisker Karma is still my favourite looking EV
Funnily enough I'd completely forgotten about them but I saw one a couple of weeks ago and it looked fantastic.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

26,892 posts

177 months

Friday 5th March
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SWoll said:
They aren't the best pictures of the 3 to be fair.




Totally agree the RS E-Tron is superior on both counts but then it is double the price and has a long design history to call upon so would hope so?
That interior just doesn't look remotely special to me. Still, I guess that's where it's priced at so fair enough I guess.

SWoll

11,073 posts

223 months

Friday 5th March
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
That interior just doesn't look remotely special to me. Still, I guess that's where it's priced at so fair enough I guess.
100% agree it's not special, just different, and the screen only setup is definitely a cost saving device. The materials and functionality are far better than many give credit for though and I've found it a far nicer place to spend time than a number of previously owned German products. Probably the lack of clutter and huge glasshouse having a positive effect.


romac

235 posts

111 months

Friday 5th March
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Somebody may have said this, but... Good job it's got a "Permanently excited" electric motor. spin

Amateurish

6,662 posts

187 months

Saturday 6th March
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SWoll said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
That interior just doesn't look remotely special to me. Still, I guess that's where it's priced at so fair enough I guess.
100% agree it's not special, just different, and the screen only setup is definitely a cost saving device. The materials and functionality are far better than many give credit for though and I've found it a far nicer place to spend time than a number of previously owned German products. Probably the lack of clutter and huge glasshouse having a positive effect.
Hard to tell from the photo, but that interior looks sub-Kia/Hyundai.