What happened to genuinely posh cars and their targets?

What happened to genuinely posh cars and their targets?

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RMDB9

Original Poster:

1,711 posts

63 months

Tuesday 6th April 2021
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Is there a chance the grandfather behaved nicely, instead of bulling people out of the way?

Roman Moroni

1,187 posts

138 months

Tuesday 6th April 2021
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RMDB9 said:
Lets talk about the respectable upper class, minor royals, diplomats, ministers (Tory), landed gentry, maybe maybe some "men about town" in a Claus von Bülow way, Viscount Edward Snowden etc.
I think the only limo that Edward Snowden will see the inside of will be made by Zil winksmile

Wheel_Turned_Out

1,473 posts

53 months

Tuesday 6th April 2021
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Came upon this rather pleasing ad for a Turbo R, a vehicle I desire immensely, indicating maybe a more "on the nose" shift in target markets 30 odd years ago.


Sporky

8,438 posts

79 months

Tuesday 6th April 2021
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RMDB9 said:
Is there a chance the grandfather behaved nicely, instead of bulling people out of the way?
Only if that supports the unhinged edge case one is trying to use to support one's backed-into-a-corner position.

Anonymous-poster

12,241 posts

221 months

Tuesday 6th April 2021
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Wheel_Turned_Out said:
Came upon this rather pleasing ad for a Turbo R, a vehicle I desire immensely, indicating maybe a more "on the nose" shift in target markets 30 odd years ago.

Never understood the love for this car!

Wheel_Turned_Out

1,473 posts

53 months

Tuesday 6th April 2021
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Anonymous-poster said:
Wheel_Turned_Out said:
Came upon this rather pleasing ad for a Turbo R, a vehicle I desire immensely, indicating maybe a more "on the nose" shift in target markets 30 odd years ago.

Never understood the love for this car!
I gave up trying to understand a love for anything a long time ago, and now just go with it. laugh

ddom

6,657 posts

63 months

Tuesday 6th April 2021
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Wheel_Turned_Out said:
Came upon this rather pleasing ad for a Turbo R, a vehicle I desire immensely, indicating maybe a more "on the nose" shift in target markets 30 odd years ago.

I love them.

sasha320

598 posts

263 months

Tuesday 6th April 2021
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RMDB9 said:
Is there a chance the grandfather behaved nicely, instead of bulling people out of the way?
Not when it contradicts my POV!

Lily the Pink

6,196 posts

185 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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Can we just get one thing straight please.

It's not "bailer twine" or "bailing twine".

It's "baler twine" or if you must, "baling twine". Got it ?

320d is all you need

2,114 posts

58 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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Flumpo said:
Really? I can’t see lord and lady snoot sending one of these to collect miss marple for a lovely weekend of mystery.





Or someone announcing the delegation of Japanese royals have arrived.
The new Ford Kuga - Nice!

320d is all you need

2,114 posts

58 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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sparta6 said:
Full effect of the monthly installment industry.

Nobody wants to wait for anything, and everyone can appear to be wealthy.
I don't think that's the grab for a lot of people, it's just how money has evolved to be used, certainly using a % of your allocated monthly income for a car is not dumb, and not everyone wants to be driving around in a 15 year old Saab 9-3 Aero . Some people want a new car with a warranty, Apple Car Play and heated seats.

While there are some people who view cars as "wealth extensions" (I've certainly met a few in my time including an apprentice who worked at a friends company, he had a 2012 Mercedes C Class when he was 18 and thought he was the fking dogs nuts, always would wear a suit jacket to work (office job) when everyone else wore the company Jumper/Coat - knob.

But for 90% of people having a new Audi or BMW on a monthly payment is not a result of wanting to appear wealthy, it's wanting to have a practical car that also is "stylish" . At least that's my take on it smile

Ferruccio Fan

440 posts

55 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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320d is all you need said:
Flumpo said:
Really? I can’t see lord and lady snoot sending one of these to collect miss marple for a lovely weekend of mystery.





Or someone announcing the delegation of Japanese royals have arrived.
The new Ford Kuga - Nice!
Seeing that picture in a small size in the quote I thought it was a Kuga , then I got it .........Doh !

RMDB9

Original Poster:

1,711 posts

63 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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320d is all you need said:
While there are some people who view cars as "wealth extensions" (I've certainly met a few in my time including an apprentice who worked at a friends company, he had a 2012 Mercedes C Class when he was 18 and thought he was the fking dogs nuts, always would wear a suit jacket to work (office job) when everyone else wore the company Jumper/Coat - knob.
I have seen that type of person. While its easy to make fun of them, these are usually "social climbers" without the negative connotation, the first in the family to have a white-collar job, a "Benz" (often plain and in fine condition, seat covers, steel wheel etc) and "suit and tie" jobs are very important status signifiers for them. An 18 year old like the one you described does not want to appear "wealthy", but "respectable".

rog007

5,797 posts

239 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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jamei303 said:
Even Prince Michael has gone full SUV

Might have to now consider going back:

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56647128

anonymous-user

69 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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Have we had carries money around in tesco carry bags and drives very old cars, anything in the shed thread, for the old money types?

Someone needs to do an old money bingo card.

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 7th April 06:38

Camelot1971

2,784 posts

181 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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Harry Flashman said:
Also electric cars as virtue signalling.

I mean, the mind boggles at the wilful ignorance and fkwittery in display in that post. Truly boggles.
How do you know someone drives a Tesla? Don't worry, they will tell you repeatedly.

CooperS

4,565 posts

234 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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CheesecakeRunner said:
RMDB9 said:
320d is all you need said:
While there are some people who view cars as "wealth extensions" (I've certainly met a few in my time including an apprentice who worked at a friends company, he had a 2012 Mercedes C Class when he was 18 and thought he was the fking dogs nuts, always would wear a suit jacket to work (office job) when everyone else wore the company Jumper/Coat - knob.
I have seen that type of person. While its easy to make fun of them, these are usually "social climbers" without the negative connotation, the first in the family to have a white-collar job, a "Benz" (often plain and in fine condition, seat covers, steel wheel etc) and "suit and tie" jobs are very important status signifiers for them. An 18 year old like the one you described does not want to appear "wealthy", but "respectable".
Indeed. Calling someone a “knob” for wearing a suit to an office job, and having a nice but average car, says more about the person making the statement, than the subject of the statement.
Absolutely. In addition they're often the people who also get bent out of shape when the 18 well presented, well mannered , determined and enthusiastic individual starts to accend leaving those onlookers to think they got there by luck or by sucking up.

Wheel_Turned_Out

1,473 posts

53 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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Camelot1971 said:
Harry Flashman said:
Also electric cars as virtue signalling.

I mean, the mind boggles at the wilful ignorance and fkwittery in display in that post. Truly boggles.
How do you know someone drives a Tesla? Don't worry, they will tell you repeatedly.
More likely someone else will point it out for them, no doubt with a smartarse remark in tow for good measure.

spreadsheet monkey

4,583 posts

242 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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Harry Flashman said:
I love threads like this. Snobbery and generalisation out in spades. "old money drives a Subaru held together by baling twine and anything else is vulgar".

I mean, seriously, get a grip. All people are differnt. For every aristo who doesn't care about cars, there's one with a barn full of them, some of which will be of dubiously tasteful specification. Just like the rest of us.
yes

This "upper class people drive battered old Subarus/Volvos" thing gets wheeled out on PH all the time.

It's become as much of a PH trope as remapping a 335d or hammering frozen sausages into someone's lawn.

MadCaptainJack

1,194 posts

55 months

Wednesday 7th April 2021
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Meanwhile...



Not mine, I hasten to add.

I wonder how long it'll take for the new Bitcoin billionaires to become considered "old money"...