RE: New Toyota GR 86 - official!

RE: New Toyota GR 86 - official!

Monday 5th April 2021

New Toyota GR 86 - official!

Long-awaited GT 86 successor revealed with 235hp and "pleasurable handling in all speed ranges"



Here's the one we've been waiting for. Though Subaru's latest BRZ was a welcome distraction when it was unveiled in the States, a new 86 is the main event when it comes to the latest Toyobaru pairing. Because it's the one - fingers crossed, at least - that we'll actually be able to buy in the UK. So, without further ado...

The Toyota GR 86 - aligning the sports car with the Gazoo Racing-badged GR Yaris and GR Supra - will please all who bought into the original concept and frustrate those who viewed it as a missed opportunity. Because to be frank, it's a new version of the original GT86's puristic ideals rather than an entire reimagination of the sports car. So, it still isn't very large - 4,265mm long, 1,775mm wide, 1,310mm tall - it still isn't very heavy - 1,270kg is the quoted kerbweight - and a relatively meagre 235hp won't set the world alight. But, as you might have heard, power isn't the 86's raison d'etre...

The 235hp comes from the same 2.4-litre evolution of horizontally opposed four-cylinder as the Subaru uses. Pleasing to note is that the engine's capacity has been achieved through boring out the FA20 rather than stroking it, which should retain the 86's revvy character. With a bore of 94mm (up from 86mm) and a stroke that's remained the same at 86mm, capacity is 2,387cc. Peak power is once more made at 7,000rpm, and maximum torque (here we go again) of 184lb ft is produced from 3,700rpm. With the standard six-speed manual, Toyota claims the GR will dash to 60mph in 6.3 seconds.



As we were saying though, an 86 does not exist to go spectacularly fast in a straight line (even though the performance gain certainly looks worthwhile). Since 2012 it's existed to celebrate the joy of very little mass in a front-engined, rear-drive platform, a mantra the new one appears to be carrying forward. A fairly modest gain of 30kg from last time around has been assisted by new equipment like an aluminium roof and front wings, lighter seats and a less weighty exhaust.

Moreover, Toyota claims that torsional rigidity has improved by 50 per cent - "offering pleasurable handling in all speed ranges", no less. The GR 86 once again employs MacPherson strut front suspension and a double wishbone rear set up, with tyres remaining a fairly modest 215-section at each corner. The wheels are an inch bigger this time around, though, at 18-inches, and Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tyres have replaced the Primacys of old. A "distinct driving feel" from the BRZ is promised.

It isn't usual to be this far into a story without talking about a new car's styling or interior. Again, that might be missing the point a tad. However, it's worth noting that the 86 again mirrors the styling of its Subaru counterpart very closely, really only separated by the grille and badges. Interestingly the press material for this car suggests that Toyota and Subaru intend to "deepen their relationship" with the aim of "making even better cars."



Inside the BRZ's updated interior is carried over for the GR 86, with a new seven-inch TFT screen the main highlight. That some details look familiar from before - see the heated seat buttons, the gearlever the wheel and so on - will be further ammo for those who felt the old interior was a tad low rent. Certainly it doesn't look the plushest driving environment, if improved from what preceded it.

Still, what did you expect? Toyota is pretty clear about its intentions for this GR 86: "While engaging in friendly rivalry with the BRZ development team, Toyota Gazoo Racing sought to develop a vehicle that would provide happiness to 86 fans, and realize an evolution of the 86's unique driving sensations." It seems this car is aimed at those who bought into the ethos of the original, rather than those who fancy a sporty switch from their Golf GTI - and you can count us among them. With the GR 86 only just revealed in Japan, no further details are yet known about European availability, although we have it on good authority that the car is coming to the UK later this year. More news when we have it.









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blue al

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945 posts

159 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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Good to see a real handbrake still available.
And although the engine bay looks busy if it’s still the original block then hopefully the aftermarket should not have too much work to do to get supercharged or turbo options available soon

LasseV

1,754 posts

133 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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I'm already a huge fan!

British Beef

2,213 posts

165 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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Should slot in the little 1.6 lt from the Yaris GR, great little engine, and would offer tuners more options.


LeoSayer

7,306 posts

244 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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Love it, but how did they manage to increase the weight after adding lighter wings, roof, seats and exhaust?

Bobtherallyfan

1,268 posts

78 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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Just bring back the MR2.....

MikeT66

2,680 posts

124 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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Lovely - a massive improvement on the original design, IMHO, which had just too many odd and sharp lines.

LasseV

1,754 posts

133 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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British Beef said:
Should slot in the little 1.6 lt from the Yaris GR, great little engine, and would offer tuners more options.
Not true. Now you can tune this thing in n/a, sc or turbo form. So very versatile.

I have owned i4 2.0 turbo car now for a year and i much prefer n/a powerplant.

Jcwjosh

952 posts

112 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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Now this looks very nice !

MX-6

5,983 posts

213 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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I really like it, the ethos of this and the original certainly appeals. Toyota have raised their game with this plus the recent GR Yaris and Supra, I would love to see some of the other Japanese manufacturers release some affordable performance offerings like in the 90s haydays.

Good to see they've upper the power somewhat, though it seems a shame that they couldn't have a second factory turbo engine option, would make a great tuners car.

The styling looks decent, I prefer it to the previous incarnation. Has quite a clean look to it though perhaps a bit on the bland side of things. Some interesting aftermarket additions will be available though I'd imagine, would be rude not to.

The interior looks quite basic and functional which is now it should be in my view, I always did like the no nonsense 90s minicab style of Japanese sports car interiors, not a big fan of the modern bling approach.

McRors

277 posts

56 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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Much improved interior and handsome exterior. Well done Toyota. I’d prefer silver wheels, though. But that’s it. Has anyone an idea of the price?

Edited by McRors on Monday 5th April 08:10

StescoG66

2,118 posts

143 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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Like it a lot, but am I the only one seeing the last gen Insignia in that rear shot? scratchchin

loudlashadjuster

5,123 posts

184 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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A much more resolved design. A bit too bland? Maybe, but I think it’s an improvement over the sometimes awkward original.

Power-to-weight ratio looks likes it’s moved from ‘interesting’ to ‘amusing’ so that might address some of the grunt grumbles.

I like.

GTEYE

2,096 posts

210 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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I like it, looks like they’ve done a good job.

I wonder if a roadster variant would take the fight to the MX-5....that’s where the volume is in this market.

I suspect one isn’t likely, but it would be good to see more on the road than the last gen. In Europe at least!

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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Yep looks likes an Insignia from the back.

But for me, far more interesting than the GR Yaris which seemed a bit dull.

Pookie123

848 posts

138 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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I really like it. This and Yaris GR on the drive would take some beating as “affordable” exciting new cars.

McRors

277 posts

56 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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LeoSayer said:
Love it, but how did they manage to increase the weight after adding lighter wings, roof, seats and exhaust?
Autocar says the new car is lighter :” The new car has a claimed kerb weight of 1270kg, which is five kg lighter than the original. Toyota says this has been achieved through features including the use of an aluminium roof and body panels.”

Most odd.

snorkel sucker

2,662 posts

203 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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Back in 2006 I changed from a Civic Type R (197bhp) to an S2000 (237bhp) expecting my world to be set alight with the power increase. I recall being distinctly underwhelmed in that regard, but loved the delivery and ability of the S2000 to rev even sweeter than the already brilliant Type R engine.

I say this only because I hope anyone stumping up for the new one doesn't do so thinking the power increase is going to make a massive difference. I do hope, however, that the subtle changes to the engine bring more character because that, allied to an already sweet chassis can definitely make enough difference to warrant a change.

Bathroom_Security

3,339 posts

117 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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Excellent news.

This will most likely be my next car, cant think of anything I'd sooner have that's new than this. Last one was a fantastic machine, very capable car. No need for 400hp on the road, no need to do 140mph every time you want to run it through a couple of gears. Just simple fun with one of these

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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Well done Toyota and GR.

Honeywell

1,375 posts

98 months

Monday 5th April 2021
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I love my tweaked GT86 and although I often think about changing it I honestly can't find anything that would be more fun for typical B Road blast. GR86 will likely be the replacement. A supercharger may get involved...