Opinions on loud exhausts

Opinions on loud exhausts

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30,240 posts

160 months

Wednesday 7th April
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irocfan said:
If you can't hear the car what's the point in having anything more than a 3 or 4 pot (soon to be electric)? Let's be honest a 2ltr 4 will get you a reliable 400bhp that's more than you *need*
Because the power/torque characteristics for a larger engine are quite different...... confused

Not sure if I'm missing a parrot but are you suggesting the main difference between an I4 and a V8/10/12 is mainly the sounds they make?

PH User

17,331 posts

72 months

Wednesday 7th April
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Countdown said:
irocfan said:
If you can't hear the car what's the point in having anything more than a 3 or 4 pot (soon to be electric)? Let's be honest a 2ltr 4 will get you a reliable 400bhp that's more than you *need*
Because the power/torque characteristics for a larger engine are quite different...... confused

Not sure if I'm missing a parrot but are you suggesting the main difference between an I4 and a V8/10/12 is mainly the sounds they make?
They weigh more, so that's another difference.

bigothunter

907 posts

24 months

Wednesday 7th April
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irocfan said:
If you can't hear the car what's the point in having anything more than a 3 or 4 pot (soon to be electric)? Let's be honest a 2ltr 4 will get you a reliable 400bhp that's more than you *need*
If you can't hear the engine, you are probably deaf whistle

ddom

3,477 posts

12 months

Wednesday 7th April
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bigothunter said:
Even with the window down you're still perceiving interior sound quality, just the noise paths have changed.
What about no roof, or windows. What about side exit exhausts, what about soft tops. It’s clearly understood you wish all cars to be silent, but others don’t agree.

David Beer

3,630 posts

231 months

Wednesday 7th April
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V8 Stang said:
I have a MBRP cat back on my Mustang GT, which is fairly loud on start up and high throttle, however i don't think its too loud at idle/low revs.
While cruising i can barely hear it.

I often leave for work at 06:30 and my parking spot is right to the side of my neighbour, who a year in is yet to complain.
However i start the engine and immediately drive off.

No one else has ever complained to me, however guess most people expect a mustang to be loud!

I live next to a main road on a hill - just up from a roundabout, so get people flooring it up the road, which TBH i don't mind, In fact i smile when something tasty floors it up the road smile

However what i cannot stand is this latest fascination with fake pops... Vroom- pop pop pop vroom pop pop pop vroom pop pop pop...........

Just why? it sounds awful and fake frown
Sorry what is a mbrp ? I had my Ford sports exhaust fitted by Bristol st in Stroud, like it. Had the service done at the same time.
It’s not too loud and being an auto with the flappy paddles in towns I can keep the Revs down so as not to annoy ‘

chuckh

182 posts

233 months

Wednesday 7th April
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On the right car like super cars awesome.

On anything else the car goes into the look at me I’m a tit category......

CaptainSensib1e

1,372 posts

185 months

Wednesday 7th April
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I have an aftermarket exhaust. It's a bit noisy on startup but soon settles down, and if you keep the revs down it isn't massively loud.

I think what most people don't like is cars with louder exhausts being driven hard/revved inappropriately, for example, through a residential area. Which is more to do with driving style than the exhaust itself. It's just a lot of exhaust noise normally signals a car being driven in spirited manner, than the exhaust itself being the issue.

TheNewBoy

277 posts

2 months

Wednesday 7th April
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Rexii said:
What’s everyone’s thoughts on loud exhausts ? Is there a line between just right and too loud or do you hate anything that’s not stock

Let me know your opinions
Anything louder than stock should be banned / prosecuted to the full extent of the law where possible

m444ttb

3,128 posts

193 months

Wednesday 7th April
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Where I live are plenty of noisy cars and bikes in a built up area (my 911 included). The centre of the estate is a park which really amplifies noise. The people that you really notice are those who drive like tts. That can be anything from very recent BMWs to 15 year old Corsas. Most people with cars like that manage the find some restraint, particularly at night. I usually close the exhaust valves when I enter the estate anyway but it’s mostly 20mph so you really would have to try. However there is a special place in hell for the pop & bang crowd. It has only ever been Audis and Fiestas round here and they seem to last a few weeks and are then never hear of again. Whether that’s because they get bored of it, bin the car showing off or what I’m never sure.

pti

1,386 posts

108 months

Wednesday 7th April
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TheNewBoy said:
Rexii said:
What’s everyone’s thoughts on loud exhausts ? Is there a line between just right and too loud or do you hate anything that’s not stock

Let me know your opinions
Anything louder than stock should be banned / prosecuted to the full extent of the law where possible
hehe

PH User

17,331 posts

72 months

Wednesday 7th April
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pti said:
TheNewBoy said:
Rexii said:
What’s everyone’s thoughts on loud exhausts ? Is there a line between just right and too loud or do you hate anything that’s not stock

Let me know your opinions
Anything louder than stock should be banned / prosecuted to the full extent of the law where possible
hehe
smokin

AW111

6,531 posts

97 months

Wednesday 7th April
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One thing this thread highlights is how selfish some people are.

"I don't care how many people I annoy" is the subtext of a lot of posts.

Ali95

7 posts

24 months

Thursday 8th April
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Ian Geary said:
stinkyspanner said:
When I was in my twenties I loved them, and often had them on my cars. Now I'm nearer 50 I hate them
+1

My former mr2 turbo had a stainless de cat and blue flame exhaust. Droned like hell on the motorway and would set car alarms off (back in the day when everyone had dodgy after market car alarms) in multistory car parks.

But I did like it and it was legal/mot-able.

Nowadays though I see them (or should that be hear them?) as largely anti social.

The worst vehicle round out way though is a small single cylinder motorbike that is ridden WOT everywhere, with practically no exhaust system.

Not only does it sound st, it's so fking slow it takes ages to get beyond hearing distance.. literally minutes will pass before it's gone.

At least the tts with noisy cars have the decency to drive by and be gone promptly.
Same boat as you apart from mine's de catted and a blitz nur spec exhaust.... it's really loud on full chat and anything over 2.5k rpms. But I keep it under that to be civil 😉

Mr Tidy

13,704 posts

91 months

Thursday 8th April
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TheNewBoy said:
Anything louder than stock should be banned / prosecuted to the full extent of the law where possible
I'd probably agree if I had a Hyundai Tucson! laugh

I've had 4 BMWs with the same N52 engine. You could barely hear it in my E91 325i, can just about hear it in my current E90 330i and could really hear it in my first E86 Z4 although all were stock. laugh Although I thought it sounded best in my 2nd E86 with a custom cat-back exhaust!

And I'm sure 130is, 530is, 630is and 730is with the same engine sounded different according to the application - so which one is "stock"?

ddom

3,477 posts

12 months

Thursday 8th April
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AW111 said:
One thing this thread highlights is how selfish some people are.

"I don't care how many people I annoy" is the subtext of a lot of posts.
And how precious some are......they'd be annoyed at anything anyway.
AW111 said:
It didn't idle below about 1500 rpm, didn't rev cleanly until fully warmed up, and had no power below about 5,000 rpm
Amazing.

Edited by ddom on Thursday 8th April 00:38

Mr Tidy

13,704 posts

91 months

Thursday 8th April
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ddom said:
AW111 said:
One thing this thread highlights is how selfish some people are.

"I don't care how many people I annoy" is the subtext of a lot of posts.
And how precious some are......they'd be annoyed at anything anyway.
AW111 said:
It didn't idle below about 1500 rpm, didn't rev cleanly until fully warmed up, and had no power below about 5,000 rpm
Amazing.

Edited by ddom on Thursday 8th April 00:38
I doubt too many people would enjoy listening to your car that couldn't idle below 1,500 rpm and couldn't rev cleanly until fully warmed up!

Just decide whether to stay selfish, or get your car sorted properly - or maybe restrain yourself from making diametrically opposed posts!

bigothunter

907 posts

24 months

Thursday 8th April
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ddom said:
bigothunter said:
Even with the window down you're still perceiving interior sound quality, just the noise paths have changed.
What about no roof, or windows. What about side exit exhausts, what about soft tops. It’s clearly understood you wish all cars to be silent, but others don’t agree.
Have you actually read my posts? I'm an advocate of sporting exhaust sound quality on road cars providing they meet legal noise requirements. But I don't see the need for excessively load exhausts which are anti-social and often illegal.

You need to calm down dear tongue out

AW111

6,531 posts

97 months

Thursday 8th April
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Mr Tidy said:
ddom said:
AW111 said:
One thing this thread highlights is how selfish some people are.

"I don't care how many people I annoy" is the subtext of a lot of posts.
And how precious some are......they'd be annoyed at anything anyway.
AW111 said:
It didn't idle below about 1500 rpm, didn't rev cleanly until fully warmed up, and had no power below about 5,000 rpm
Amazing.

Edited by ddom on Thursday 8th April 00:38
I doubt too many people would enjoy listening to your car that couldn't idle below 1,500 rpm and couldn't rev cleanly until fully warmed up!

Just decide whether to stay selfish, or get your car sorted properly - or maybe restrain yourself from making diametrically opposed posts!
Nice stalking, to dig up a post about a car that's been dead for nearly 40 years, in a thread about stupid things you did to your first car.

Clearly reading comprehension is as hard for both of you idiots as consideration.


ps I quietened that car down when I found out that it was annoying people.


Edited by AW111 on Thursday 8th April 03:14

pti

1,386 posts

108 months

Thursday 8th April
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Ali95 said:
Ian Geary said:
stinkyspanner said:
When I was in my twenties I loved them, and often had them on my cars. Now I'm nearer 50 I hate them
+1

My former mr2 turbo had a stainless de cat and blue flame exhaust. Droned like hell on the motorway and would set car alarms off (back in the day when everyone had dodgy after market car alarms) in multistory car parks.

But I did like it and it was legal/mot-able.

Nowadays though I see them (or should that be hear them?) as largely anti social.

The worst vehicle round out way though is a small single cylinder motorbike that is ridden WOT everywhere, with practically no exhaust system.

Not only does it sound st, it's so fking slow it takes ages to get beyond hearing distance.. literally minutes will pass before it's gone.

At least the tts with noisy cars have the decency to drive by and be gone promptly.
Same boat as you apart from mine's de catted and a blitz nur spec exhaust.... it's really loud on full chat and anything over 2.5k rpms. But I keep it under that to be civil ??
I sold the same car last year: Blitz Nur-Spec, decat, boost wound up, MR2 Turbo. It was pretty obnoxious to be fair, but was an infrequently used weekend car and I don't drive like a in residential areas. At full-chat I enjoyed the sound (granted a large part of that is the turbo spooling over your shoulder) and accompanying flames. Was awful at 70mph without the bung fitted, though.

Jaguar steve

7,193 posts

174 months

Thursday 8th April
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AW111 said:
One thing this thread PH highlights is how selfish some people are.

"I don't care how many people I annoy" is the subtext of a lot of posts.
FTFY. smile

PH is a portal into the mindset of those with enthusiasm for or involvement with cars that goes beyond white goods functionality.

The best strategy is to not demean oneself by lengthy engagements with the more notably selfish and entitled proponents and move on.