Opinions on loud exhausts

[AC43]

cuprabob said:

AC43 said:

And there's big Suzuki twin which sounds musical too - can't recall what it's called.

TL1000R?

That's the one, fabulous noise. Used to hear one pass my house everyday from half a mile away but didn't mind. I could listen to it all day long.

[Cob1]

Only did exhausts on a few of mine.

Ax GT with a huge twin 3" piped back box. Sounded like a rally car, looked like I'd driven over a bin. Antisocial and I happily embrace my own hypocrisy by saying I now hate a 4 pot hatch with shouty pipes.

XJR had a back box delete, which made little difference other than releasing a slight v8 burble on start-up. I like the subtlety. No-one expects a quiet car with a walnut dashboard and a carphone on a curly wire to do 60 in 5. It's liked being bottled by the parish priest at evensong.

Audi with a v8 had a back box delete and sounded like god had stubbed his toe. Nascar sounding fun for six months then it became a bit much. Neighbours loved it though.

Cobra has open side pipes. It seems that everyone from coppers & old ladies to small boys have nothing but love for that blub blub blub.

[av185]

Jonny TVR said:

A huge part of driving a car for fun is the noise. Getting a balance between the engine and exhaust noise is important.

My old Maserati Granturismo wasn't that quick and was compromised in other ways but I loved it mainly because of the exhaust noise. You could hear it from miles away but it was a fantastic noise. My e-type makes a loud rasp from its exhaust at high revs which I really like, at lower revs it fairly quiet which is suits the car.

Had an MC Stradale last summer the noise of which was quite intoxicating even though as a package it is seriously flawed with major 'idiosyncracies.' ::

[otolith]

Countdown said:

Leon R said:

Countdown said:

Does our own enjoyment of cars mean that we shouldn't care about foisting our bellendery onto others? I don't think the two are mutually exclusive - it's quite possible to enjoy cars and driving but not to be a dick about it.

How do you enjoy cars while not partaking in anything that might irritate someone else.

By trying to make sure my driving doesn't p155 anybody else off. e.g. Not tailgating people, driving aggressively, cutting people up, not having a stupidly noisy car.

What do you do that irritates other people?

To be fair, there are a significant number of people who think that you should not use a car at all, or at least other than using the greenest car you can as infrequently as possible.

[ddom]

Countdown said:

And again, the enjoyment of cars and driving are not synonymous with annoying other people. As a general rule of life I try not to annoy other people and will try to change my own behaviour to avoid doing so unless it's something fundamentally important. I call it "not being a dick just for the sake of it". I don't subscribe to the mentality of "I'm all right jack and everybody else can screw themselves" because if we ALL take a selfish approach then everybody's quality of life goes down.

And where has anyone said any different. What has been said, by some of the more challenged posters are sweeping generalisations based upon their own narrow minded view of life.

[PH User]

otolith said:

Countdown said:

Leon R said:

Countdown said:

Does our own enjoyment of cars mean that we shouldn't care about foisting our bellendery onto others? I don't think the two are mutually exclusive - it's quite possible to enjoy cars and driving but not to be a dick about it.

How do you enjoy cars while not partaking in anything that might irritate someone else.

By trying to make sure my driving doesn't p155 anybody else off. e.g. Not tailgating people, driving aggressively, cutting people up, not having a stupidly noisy car.

What do you do that irritates other people?

To be fair, there are a significant number of people who think that you should not use a car at all, or at least other than using the greenest car you can as infrequently as possible.

Yep, there is always somebody who's ready to be pissed off.

[anonymous-user]

ddom said:

And where has anyone said any different. What has been said, by some of the more challenged posters are sweeping generalisations based upon their own narrow minded view of life.

Yes, some people make sweeping generalisations and some of them are hypocrites as well,

ddom said:

makes you quite ignorant if you’re a petrolhead. But then again, that’s Porsche owners in general isn’t it.

[Leon R]

Countdown said:

Leon R said:

Countdown said:

Does our own enjoyment of cars mean that we shouldn't care about foisting our bellendery onto others? I don't think the two are mutually exclusive - it's quite possible to enjoy cars and driving but not to be a dick about it.

How do you enjoy cars while not partaking in anything that might irritate someone else.

By trying to make sure my driving doesn't p155 anybody else off. e.g. Not tailgating people, driving aggressively, cutting people up, not having a stupidly noisy car.

What do you do that irritates other people?

Well I have a V8 and that doesn't have good fuel consumption or emissions so that annoys some people.

It has a fruity exhaust so that will annoy some.

I go to a lot of events and I know the build up in traffic around smaller towns during said events annoys some people.

I like to drive my car for fun and I know some people are annoyed at that.

I have some modifications on my car which annoys people.

I have a car on PCP which some people get annoyed by.

To be clear I haven't ever had anyone come to me in person and complain but these are all things that I have seen people have a moan about on here so my point is this isn't a hobby that you can completely avoid annoying people with.

[MonsterMax63]

Like most others, I find it can be a bit tiresome, but then, and also like most others, I’m getting old.

It’s totally car dependent.

I have a 2018 E63S and that can be a bit loud, but only if you rev the nuts off it with sports exhaust switched on. Even then, it’s not obtrusively loud and I’m not one for racing around the town. Its all stock/standard factory fit, so the noise is appropriate to a V8 engine, a nice rumble but many other V8s are way louder. I get many emails from tuners suggesting I should fit the Capristo exhaust or the Brabus Merc-approved product. £12k to make an already well sorted car sound utterly obnoxious and play havoc with the engine management, no......

[av185]

rockin said:

ddom said:

And where has anyone said any different. What has been said, by some of the more challenged posters are sweeping generalisations based upon their own narrow minded view of life.

Yes, some people make sweeping generalisations and some of them are hypocrites as well,

ddom said:

makes you quite ignorant if you’re a petrolhead. But then again, that’s Porsche owners in general isn’t it.

[baconsarney]

My future SIL has a new Cayman on order. I think it's being delivered in August.... Oh well, at least it isn't a boxster thingy.

Always fancied a 911 myself but don't think I could live with the image....

[Countdown]

Leon R said:

To be clear I haven't ever had anyone come to me in person and complain but these are all things that I have seen people have a moan about on here so my point is this isn't a hobby that you can completely avoid annoying people with.

It's rare that people do complain directly, because it's unlikely to have a positive outcome. The person with the loud exhaust isn't going to change it just because some random person comes up to him and complains about it. the view they're more likely to take is "It's a free country and i can do what I like so F off". Whereas stating an opinion on t'Internet isn't going to result in any violence.

I take your points about some people always being annoyed, and I guess we all have our own different lines. The bloke who gets on the bus with a ghetto blaster blaring out probably feels the same way

[ddom]

rockin said:

ddom said:

And where has anyone said any different. What has been said, by some of the more challenged posters are sweeping generalisations based upon their own narrow minded view of life.

Yes, some people make sweeping generalisations and some of them are hypocrites as well,

ddom said:

makes you quite ignorant if you’re a petrolhead. But then again, that’s Porsche owners in general isn’t it.

Was that the thread where you declared there's no difference between FWD and RWD, I would say the quote is spot on if so eh?

Always good to hear from you.

[Ferruccio Fan]

There are loud exhausts.

Then there are LOUD exhausts

Then there are pops and bangs .....that just make the car sound broken .

I tolerate the first line only .

[bigothunter]

Ferruccio Fan said:

There are loud exhausts.

Then there are LOUD exhausts

Then there are pops and bangs .....that just make the car sound broken .

I tolerate the first line only .

I agree with the sentiment

But in reality, you put up with them all because you have no choice. Someone else has made that decision for you.

[PH User]

Ferruccio Fan said:

There are loud exhausts.

Then there are LOUD exhausts

Then there are pops and bangs .....that just make the car sound broken .

I tolerate the first line only .

You tolerate loud exhausts, so what do you do about LOUD exhausts that you can't tolerate??

[Ferruccio Fan]

Tolerate is the wrong word , I don't start shouting at noisy cars passing .

[PH User]

Ferruccio Fan said:

Tolerate is the wrong word , I don't start shouting at noisy cars passing .

That's good, they wouldn't hear you anyway

[Leon R]

bigothunter said:

I agree with the sentiment

But in reality, you put up with them all because you have no choice. Someone else has made that decision for you.

Like most noise then?

[ddom]

Leon R said:

bigothunter said:

I agree with the sentiment

But in reality, you put up with them all because you have no choice. Someone else has made that decision for you.

Like most noise then?

Bit like when you go to race meetings..... Selective moral high ground