Opinions on loud exhausts

Opinions on loud exhausts

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NDA

17,933 posts

190 months

Monday 5th April
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Rexii said:
Well the issue is people don’t realise we do not necessarily want to annoy people with our loud exhausts ... we just want to have fun and enhance a otherwise silent boring car
This issue is probably where and when. I don't mind loud exhausts - they sound great... they whizz past and it's all over in a second. But if I was living on some vast estate and idiots were racing around all day on horrid little mopeds? Then I would not be a fan.

"We just want to have fun" could be interpreted as being massively selfish if you're annoying someone else for your own pleasure.

bigandclever

11,238 posts

203 months

Monday 5th April
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sheepman said:
HazzaT said:
If it's a car such as a TVR or Jag with a cultured and intelligent motoring enthusiast at the helm (not unlike myself) then a loud exhaust is fantastic.

If it's a modified hatchback (particularly one with a Ford or VAG badge) then it is being driven by a hooligan boy racer chav and I hate it, they should all be locked up.
Just about sums this thread and pistonheads in general up laugh
I’ve got both, and no idea where I stand laugh

DanielSan

16,127 posts

132 months

Monday 5th April
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Too many people mistake volume for the quality of sound. Plenty of quieter cars sound good, plenty of loud cars sound terrible. If a loud car sounds good then it's all good with me. If it's a bean can on the back of something like a Hyundai Getz then it should be killed with fire and brimstone.

grumbledoak

28,613 posts

198 months

Monday 5th April
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Very few engines sound so good that I want to hear more of them, louder, at the owner's convenience.

Anything intended for the public roads should be silent. Pipe the noise inside if you want.

KTMsm

21,606 posts

228 months

Monday 5th April
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I bought a V8 Soarer, you couldn't hear the engine / exhaust.

I looked underneath and there wasn't an easy way to remove a pair of boxes with straight pipe however just after the cat - before all 4 boxes there was an easy place to just add a downturn

It sounded like a NASCAR above 5k

laugh

I admit if everyone did it, it wouldn't be great

Gameface

16,406 posts

42 months

Monday 5th April
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grumbledoak said:
Anything intended for the public roads should be silent.
What nonsense.

njw1

1,596 posts

76 months

Monday 5th April
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grumbledoak said:
Anything intended for the public roads should be silent.
Do you push your TVR everywhere then? laugh

grumbledoak

28,613 posts

198 months

Monday 5th April
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njw1 said:
Do you push your TVR everywhere then? laugh
No, they were both quite kind to me. But I never even considered making them louder than standard, and these were relatively nice sounding engines.


samoht

2,257 posts

111 months

Monday 5th April
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The other half of the equation is intake noise - a nice open intake can sound great under load, while being quiet at other times.

Making a racket in residential areas is annoying, especially a car left idling where the noise continues for minutes.

I think generally my opinion is that an ideal engine should be quiet at idle, quiet in normal around-town use, quiet at a motorway cruise, and then progressively louder the more of the performance you're using.

That way the noise is in proportion to the rate of change of velocity. Since generally hard acceleration is saved for the open road, that's typically an appropriate wide-open space to use it. It also serves notice on other road users that they'll need to update their estimate of your velocity more frequently. And if it annoys anyone, it won't be in earshot for long anyway.

I remember going for walks on Box Hill, always smiling when hearing the superbikes at WOT, racing along the A24 below. Magnificent!

AW111

6,550 posts

98 months

Monday 5th April
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Nickp82 said:
Stick Legs said:
I think they are tragic. Always have done.

I love fast cars, I love a car that makes a great noise. I see no reason why they should be excessively loud and when I do hear a car that has been modified to be louder I just think it's a bit sad IMHO.


Motorbikes are the worst offenders around my way and can be heard for miles. It's antisocial and not even a great sound.
I know that there is a school of thought that says 'Loud pipes save lives' but everyone I know with this badge also has a tinted visor and other cosmetic mods to their bikes which kind of dilutes their argument.

I'd say that on balance of fairness OEM +15% db is probably okay.
Beyond that lies the realm of chavdom.
Saved me a load of typing smile
Agreed.

I will add that I think the cylinder count thing is bks - a loud annoying v8/v10/v12 is still loud and annoying.


fflump

332 posts

3 months

Monday 5th April
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Anything that is noisy when idling or cruising is tragic.

PHUSER1

187 posts

1 month

Monday 5th April
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grumpyscot said:
Loud exhausts - that's what expanding foam was invented for. A 3 second blast up the tailpipe of wonder boy's wee Astra, and we don't get wakened at 3am when he comes home from his mates.
Interesting idea.

SidewaysSi

8,895 posts

199 months

Monday 5th April
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I have a loud exhaust on my Lotus, a Larini Clubsport. Don't really care what people think as I love it - pops, bangs etc but is in keeping with the car so all good IMO. Of course, it is a stty 4 cylinder car so obviously some will think of it as the work of the devil...

Nads02

111 posts

3 months

Tuesday 6th April
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A family member had a yaris once and the rear back box fell disconnected just after we brought it. Luckily it was a cheap fix but that 1.0 engine was a bit loud! Personally, even as a young person I wouldn't do it. I am comfortable driving my car for 8 hours a day (have done it) and don't see the reason to change anything about it tbh. Did think of it but it would just be silly

s m

20,735 posts

168 months

Tuesday 6th April
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sheepman said:
HazzaT said:
If it's a car such as a TVR or Jag with a cultured and intelligent motoring enthusiast at the helm (not unlike myself) then a loud exhaust is fantastic.

If it's a modified hatchback (particularly one with a Ford or VAG badge) then it is being driven by a hooligan boy racer chav and I hate it, they should all be locked up.
Just about sums this thread and pistonheads in general up laugh
Too true hehe

IntriguedUser

846 posts

86 months

Tuesday 6th April
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Never liked loud exhausts. Tone and character yes, outright loud, no.

Its very hard to achieve tone and character without crossing into the outright loud, boomy, drone sound. Therefore I keep my cars reasonably stock exhaust wise. Middle silencer delete is the most i go for unless I'm gettong a proper system with high quality baffled exhaust parts.


Mr Tidy

13,847 posts

92 months

Tuesday 6th April
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aka_kerrly said:
It's not the volume that gets me it's the tone of the sound that I am more sensitive to and I find loud 2 stroke bikes far more irritating than any car I have heard.

I have very little issue with a loud exhaust but don't get me started on pointless "pops, bangs and crackles" bullst - this is the most annoying craze of the last few years.
I don't have an issue with volume, loud is fine so long as the sound quality is good.

Which is why I love hearing a loud 2-stroke, especially if it has more than 1 cylinder! My 3 cylinder 2-stroke KH500 Kawasaki with Allspeed expansion chambers sounded fantastic - to me anyway!

Unlike the Chinese 125cc four-stroke learner cruiser next door but one likes to rev at silly o'clock that sounds like some sort of stationary engine Henry Cole would have!

And those pointlessly noisy overweight gutless Harley Davidson 2 wheel tractors just sound like they are broken and don't have an exhaust. banghead

Anyway back to cars and I don't think i've ever heard any N/A engine with 5 or more cylinders that didn't sound great, especially when it was getting used properly!

But 4 cylinder engines are very hit or miss. A 60s or 70s twin-cam Fiat or Alfa sounds good, a BDA Escort or even a Cosworth (despite the turbo) sounds fantastic whereas a 1.2 Corsa with a 3" bean can exhaust sounds pathetic.

And all the fake cr*p like recent BMW M cars with turbos and programmed sound-tracks sound about as tragic as the modded Corsas to me.

And being over 60 I'm an oldie but I love the sound of my BMW Z4M Coupe with Powerflow back-boxes, although I only bimble about until I get to a clear road where hopefully how it sounds won't bother anyone.









AW111

6,550 posts

98 months

Tuesday 6th April
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SidewaysSi said:
I have a loud exhaust on my Lotus, a Larini Clubsport. Don't really care what people think as I love it - pops, bangs etc but is in keeping with the car so all good IMO. Of course, it is a stty 4 cylinder car so obviously some will think of it as the work of the devil...
You do realise that your pops and bangs probably really annoy some people, don't you? You obviously don't care about being a selfish dhead.


Not only is your car illegal, it almost certainly adds to the ranks of people wanting to ban all modifications.

Way to go, champ. irked




Gameface

16,406 posts

42 months

Tuesday 6th April
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AW111 said:
You do realise that your pops and bangs probably really annoy some people, don't you? You obviously don't care about being a selfish dhead.


Not only is your car illegal, it almost certainly adds to the ranks of people wanting to ban all modifications.

Way to go, champ. irked
Wow.

Drunk posting in the early hours of the morning, perhaps?

Chicken dinner

4,102 posts

33 months

Tuesday 6th April
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Gameface said:
AW111 said:
You do realise that your pops and bangs probably really annoy some people, don't you? You obviously don't care about being a selfish dhead.


Not only is your car illegal, it almost certainly adds to the ranks of people wanting to ban all modifications.

Way to go, champ. irked
Wow.


Drunk posting in the early hours of the morning, perhaps?
rofl
Try checking his profile wink

And to think, this was once a TVR forum and home to the London tunnel runners.
Ted would be turning in his metaphorical grave