What old performance car compares...
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s m said:
So you could say your Merc, as per that Clarkson remark, offers all the performance you could ever really need on the road - like that 528 of 25 years ago
Indeed.I'm not sure that anyone needs, or really makes use of, more of it on modern roads.
People are free to buy more potent cars, obviously.
Nyloc20 said:
I haven’t checked any figures but I would expect my Elan S4, bought in 1975, would be pretty similar to our current Focus ST3(diesel) for 0-60 time.
Those old S4s were about Saxo VTS/106 Gti performance so I’d expect your ST3 would be quite a bit quicker flat out Probably not a lot in it up to legal speeds though
BGarside said:
I'd sooner drive most of these older cars than some bloated, over complicated modern bland-mobile any day.
With overcrowded roads and cameras everywhere I'd rather drive something with lower limits that is fun to drive at realistic speeds than something unusably quick.
Here here.With overcrowded roads and cameras everywhere I'd rather drive something with lower limits that is fun to drive at realistic speeds than something unusably quick.
This is what a lot of these folk who buy cars on finance don’t understand.
s m said:
Indeed
Your diesel is a fast to 60 as a Sapphire Cosworth and does twice the mpg most likely
Think the M5 V8 is still a bit faster though
They’re usually in the 4s to 60
I'm sub 4 seconds to 60 in a diesel. I made another thread about it, max power would have wet their pants in the 90sYour diesel is a fast to 60 as a Sapphire Cosworth and does twice the mpg most likely
Think the M5 V8 is still a bit faster though
They’re usually in the 4s to 60
s m said:
Nyloc20 said:
I haven’t checked any figures but I would expect my Elan S4, bought in 1975, would be pretty similar to our current Focus ST3(diesel) for 0-60 time.
Those old S4s were about Saxo VTS/106 Gti performance so I’d expect your ST3 would be quite a bit quicker flat out Probably not a lot in it up to legal speeds though
Nyloc20 said:
Yes I reckon that’s right, my Elan was a Special Equipment model so not far off Sprint figures. I think the Sprint was 0-60 in 7 seconds and 120 top speed. Our ST top speed easily beats that ( not that I’ve done so on UK roads)
Ah ok, I know the Sprint was a bit quicker, high 6s for the benchmark sprint, about on a par with that 528i above.It was a couple of seconds quicker than the S4 as well by the time they got to 3 figures
Welshbeef said:
RJWR said:
I'm sub 4 seconds to 60 in a diesel. I made another thread about it, max power would have wet their pants in the 90s
I’m calling custard on this one. Porsche Panamera 4S – 4.3 seconds
Audi S4 saloon - 4.6 seconds
BMW M340d - 4.6 seconds
BMW 435d xDrive - 4.7 seconds
Bentley Bentayga - 4.8 seconds
Audi SQ8 - 4.8 seconds
BMW 840d xDrive - 4.9 seconds
BMW X3 M40d - 4.9 seconds
Mercedes CLS 400d - 5.0 seconds
Audi S6 saloon - 5.0 seconds
ReformedPistonhead said:
When I was 23 in 1995 I was paying £2,200 to insure my £5,000 Cavalier SRi (G-Reg) that I had proudly bought with 2 year’s savings...
Because it was “fast and sporty”.
My daughter’s 1.0 Polo goes faster (and is only £500 to insure too) and honestly it would be more fun to drive I reckon!
Unbelievable.
No way a 1 litre Polo would be as quick as that SRI..unless you were pushing it.Because it was “fast and sporty”.
My daughter’s 1.0 Polo goes faster (and is only £500 to insure too) and honestly it would be more fun to drive I reckon!
Unbelievable.
GTIMAN2 said:
ReformedPistonhead said:
When I was 23 in 1995 I was paying £2,200 to insure my £5,000 Cavalier SRi (G-Reg) that I had proudly bought with 2 year’s savings...
Because it was “fast and sporty”.
My daughter’s 1.0 Polo goes faster (and is only £500 to insure too) and honestly it would be more fun to drive I reckon!
Unbelievable.
No way a 1 litre Polo would be as quick as that SRI..unless you were pushing it.Because it was “fast and sporty”.
My daughter’s 1.0 Polo goes faster (and is only £500 to insure too) and honestly it would be more fun to drive I reckon!
Unbelievable.
Could be the Cavalier was on its last legs but the engines are usually strong
ruggedscotty said:
close though... very close.... 10 at 5s or less right here
Porsche Panamera 4S – 4.3 seconds
Audi S4 saloon - 4.6 seconds
BMW M340d - 4.6 seconds
BMW 435d xDrive - 4.7 seconds
Bentley Bentayga - 4.8 seconds
Audi SQ8 - 4.8 seconds
BMW 840d xDrive - 4.9 seconds
BMW X3 M40d - 4.9 seconds
Mercedes CLS 400d - 5.0 seconds
Audi S6 saloon - 5.0 seconds
335d xdrive 4.7 as stock with 313hp. Porsche Panamera 4S – 4.3 seconds
Audi S4 saloon - 4.6 seconds
BMW M340d - 4.6 seconds
BMW 435d xDrive - 4.7 seconds
Bentley Bentayga - 4.8 seconds
Audi SQ8 - 4.8 seconds
BMW 840d xDrive - 4.9 seconds
BMW X3 M40d - 4.9 seconds
Mercedes CLS 400d - 5.0 seconds
Audi S6 saloon - 5.0 seconds
With 380 hp, it's quite a bit different.
Oh and I've made this one go round corners too.
Here's one video from YouTube. Not my car.
https://youtu.be/tOnIw9Msgoo
Here's me with a friend at lynton.
https://i.imgur.com/NuSgZOH.jpg
Here's me with the same friend middle of Devon
https://i.imgur.com/egKEFCw.jpg
Please note that's a Tesla. They have a reputation for being fairly punchy.
Tesla in front or me in front, no difference other than who got throttle down first.
Oh and I get 50mpg commuting.
https://youtu.be/tOnIw9Msgoo
Here's me with a friend at lynton.
https://i.imgur.com/NuSgZOH.jpg
Here's me with the same friend middle of Devon
https://i.imgur.com/egKEFCw.jpg
Please note that's a Tesla. They have a reputation for being fairly punchy.
Tesla in front or me in front, no difference other than who got throttle down first.
Oh and I get 50mpg commuting.
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