RE: All-electric Caterham Seven promised

RE: All-electric Caterham Seven promised

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thewarlock

3,235 posts

45 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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Pan Pan Pan said:
Only if a person is so arrogant they believe that the answers `they' come up with are always correct, I don't believe your answers above are.
For example a driver killed his daughter by reversing into her on his own driveway at 1 mph. the moment `any' vehicle is moving at an speed it has enough energy in it, to kill or seriously injure whatever it hits, Speed only increases the certainty of its ability to kill.

The rest just seems like unsubstantiated optimism, rather than true reality, especially if the demand for vehicles of any kind, outstrips the Earths ability to provide the base materials for them, and even more importantly the ability of some, to pay for them.
In the 60 s many thought we would be driving turbine, or nuclear cars, or even flying cars, in the future. That too was a case of unsubstantiated optimism. I will believe it when I actually see it .
This post is almost unbelievable.

You're pulling someone up for being arrogant enough to believe they're always correct, whilst dismissing everything they say, because you know better?

Then you've picked one part of the post, and posted effectively an 'exception to the rule'.

And comparing the fantasy of nuclear cars, to the inevitability and observable rise of electric cars is just utterly ridiculous:

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/electric-cars/choosing...


ZesPak

24,427 posts

196 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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DonkeyApple said:
You'd have to mental to buy an EV Caterham on environmental grounds as there are none so the key, in reality, and what is the exciting bit is will an electric drivetrain in this type of vehicle offer us excess consumers, excess polluters a different and good experience as we consume and pollute? wink. I think an electric Caterham could be an awful lot of fun.
yes
Agreed.

hairykrishna

13,166 posts

203 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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Max_Torque said:
But should we do it anyway, or should we give this sort of "toy car" an exception? What message would that send out? For me i think it's better to accept we need to change, and to embrace that change, and apply it equally and fairly to all road driven cars.....

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On the other hand, I think small volume manufacturers like Caterham should probably should be exempt from having to be electric. We already make some exceptions for them from various safety stuff. Why is this so different? There are next to bugger all made and most of them do no miles. It'll only drag out the inevitable for a few years anyway.


MrGTI6

3,160 posts

130 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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hairykrishna said:
On the other hand, I think small volume manufacturers like Caterham should probably should be exempt from having to be electric. We already make some exceptions for them from various safety stuff. Why is this so different?
Agreed.

ZesPak

24,427 posts

196 months

Monday 24th May 2021
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hairykrishna said:
Max_Torque said:
But should we do it anyway, or should we give this sort of "toy car" an exception? What message would that send out? For me i think it's better to accept we need to change, and to embrace that change, and apply it equally and fairly to all road driven cars.....

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On the other hand, I think small volume manufacturers like Caterham should probably should be exempt from having to be electric. We already make some exceptions for them from various safety stuff. Why is this so different? There are next to bugger all made and most of them do no miles. It'll only drag out the inevitable for a few years anyway.
I agree on both parts but the solution is pretty simple I guess.
I'd wager a guess that if you'd do a poll at under 30-year olds, if they'd prefer an ICE Caterham or EV, the answer would surprise many on here.
People in their twenties now have grown up with endless youtube videos of a Tesla Model S shaming supercars, for them, THAT is the future. It's their future, not the expensive, disgusting, exploding dinosaur juice their parents used to worship.

In the end, EV's will be prevalent. Price parity is bound to arrive within 5-10 years. Maintenance is already cheaper.

I don't see a reason to artificially kill off the low volume manufacturers, they have no real environmental impact and their hobby ICE cars will be relegated to the status similar to a horse. A nice novelty for people who enjoy the sound/smell of "simpler times", but not for people who want to make progress or use it as a reliable day to day transport.