RE: Lotus previews new Emira interior
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Stumason10 said:
That a true fact?
I would of expected based on the Alpine tie up Renault lumps. Megane 2.0T with their dsg box.
Or Volvo bits n pieces. I know Mercedes have many tie ups with Renault / Nissan so a Mercedes engine not out the equation. Just would of thought Volvo or Renault. I would of expected based on the Alpine tie up Renault lumps. Megane 2.0T with their dsg box.
t with excitement. Olivera said:
It's not the A45 engine, most likely a Geeley parts bin 4 cylinder with 250-300bhp.
I also think it will be based on the Geely 1.8 litre 4 cylinder Turbo with the 7-speed dual clutch transmission. Geely builds hundreds of thousands of these engines and transmissions per year. That's a significant cost reduction potential compared to the sophisticated AMG A45 engine. I'm sure Lotus/Geely will tap into that.http://global.geely.com/intec/g-power/
Edited by florian on Tuesday 8th June 09:02
Blimey, what a miserable bunch of pessimistic drivel on here - 2 posts only in genuine support on the thread.
"It's just an opinion" - zzzz. Bashing one picture without balancing what might be some epic wins on the rest of the car.
Wait until the car is shown, driven and a judgement on the package can be ascertained.
If you then don't like the direction the carpet is flowing you can buy something else.
We already know this is not a Lotus in the ethos of the Elise, Exige and a bit more like the Evora but perhaps even softer - OMG!.
It will be heavier and it is aimed at the mass market. Deal with it and buy it or don't buy it.
It may well struggle in the face of Porsche but they have to try. Nothing about the binnacle shouts 'the end of Lotus'.
This thread confirms my thoughts that it won't be Lotus drivers. or maybe even Petrolheads, that buy it but it will the more comfort conscious. Yes, that might not be your thing but they have to make money and they can't just bring out a new Elise.
If you want something more raw then get an Exige - they are awesome and the prices will stabilise and end up being cheaper GT3s holding their value well.
Me. I represent the mass market and a more comfortable everyday car from a Marque that means something to an Englishman sounds utterly fantastic to me.
Note: Never mind that it is supposed to look great and will undoubtedly have some Lotus DNA brilliance running through it.
Go out, enjoy the sun, celebrate life and come back with some positivity.
"It's just an opinion" - zzzz. Bashing one picture without balancing what might be some epic wins on the rest of the car.
Wait until the car is shown, driven and a judgement on the package can be ascertained.
If you then don't like the direction the carpet is flowing you can buy something else.
We already know this is not a Lotus in the ethos of the Elise, Exige and a bit more like the Evora but perhaps even softer - OMG!.
It will be heavier and it is aimed at the mass market. Deal with it and buy it or don't buy it.
It may well struggle in the face of Porsche but they have to try. Nothing about the binnacle shouts 'the end of Lotus'.
This thread confirms my thoughts that it won't be Lotus drivers. or maybe even Petrolheads, that buy it but it will the more comfort conscious. Yes, that might not be your thing but they have to make money and they can't just bring out a new Elise.
If you want something more raw then get an Exige - they are awesome and the prices will stabilise and end up being cheaper GT3s holding their value well.
Me. I represent the mass market and a more comfortable everyday car from a Marque that means something to an Englishman sounds utterly fantastic to me.
Note: Never mind that it is supposed to look great and will undoubtedly have some Lotus DNA brilliance running through it.
Go out, enjoy the sun, celebrate life and come back with some positivity.
stickleback123 said:
Does anyone outside the room full of marketing tossers at the car companies and the room full of motoring "journalist" tossers desperate for any content actually give a crap about these tedious "reveals"?
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4 pages of comments so far indicates the answer to your question is yes..
florian said:
Olivera said:
It's not the A45 engine, most likely a Geeley parts bin 4 cylinder with 250-300bhp.
I also think it will be based on the Geely 1.8 litre 4 cylinder Turbo with the 7-speed dual clutch transmission. Geely builds hundreds of thousands of these engines and transmissions per year. That's a significant cost reduction potential compared to the sophisticated AMG A45 engine. I'm sure Lotus/Geely will tap into that.http://global.geely.com/intec/g-power/
Northernboy said:
Olivera said:
My point was a counter argument to 'today's supercars are so fast they cannot have a manual gearbox', which just isn't true (see Gordon Murray T50). Emissions, efficiency and the requirements of the typical buyer dictate auto.
I didn’t say they can’t, I pointed out why automatics make more sense at the higher-end.It’s no coincidence that my faster cars are automatics and my slower ones are manual, I like a manual, but would find it a pain in the backside when properly pushing on in something very fast.
I've always been disappointed by autos. They rarely do what I want. One simply has more control with a manual, even if it might be slightly slower. Way more satisfying.
dandare said:
Maybe automatics are for slower brains, and manuals for faster ones? It sort of levels the playing field. Communism in cars.
I've always been disappointed by autos. They rarely do what I want. One simply has more control with a manual, even if it might be slightly slower. Way more satisfying.
What a strange insult to lob in, it makes no sense at all.I've always been disappointed by autos. They rarely do what I want. One simply has more control with a manual, even if it might be slightly slower. Way more satisfying.
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