RE: Lotus previews new Emira interior

RE: Lotus previews new Emira interior

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Stumason10

44 posts

173 months

Monday 7th June
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Stumason10 said:
That a true fact?

I would of expected based on the Alpine tie up Renault lumps. Megane 2.0T with their dsg box.
Or Volvo bits n pieces. I know Mercedes have many tie ups with Renault / Nissan so a Mercedes engine not out the equation. Just would of thought Volvo or Renault.

GTRene

12,254 posts

192 months

Monday 7th June
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Pumpsmynads

232 posts

124 months

Monday 7th June
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Stumason10 said:
That a true fact?

I would of expected based on the Alpine tie up Renault lumps. Megane 2.0T with their dsg box.
From the horses mouth.
And Geely own 10% of Daimler.

delta0

1,421 posts

74 months

Monday 7th June
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Keen to see more details about this and the engine. If its an A45 engine with 400+ bhp then the V6 they go for will have to be an absolute beast, 500bhp+?

Olivera

4,701 posts

207 months

Monday 7th June
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delta0 said:
Keen to see more details about this and the engine. If its an A45 engine with 400+ bhp then the V6 they go for will have to be an absolute beast, 500bhp+?
It's not the A45 engine, most likely a Geeley parts bin 4 cylinder with 250-300bhp.

andy_s

17,675 posts

227 months

Monday 7th June
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delta0 said:
Keen to see more details about this and the engine. If its an A45 engine with 400+ bhp then the V6 they go for will have to be an absolute beast, 500bhp+?
The A45 is 2 tonnes as well...

delta0

1,421 posts

74 months

Monday 7th June
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andy_s said:
The A45 is 2 tonnes as well...
That’s the gross weight, as in the absolute max weight the vehicle can handle. Its kerb weight is around 1550kg, about ~100kg more than an Evora (which are known to be a little heavier than they claim)

andy_s

17,675 posts

227 months

Tuesday 8th June
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delta0 said:
andy_s said:
The A45 is 2 tonnes as well...
That’s the gross weight, as in the absolute max weight the vehicle can handle. Its kerb weight is around 1550kg, about ~100kg more than an Evora (which are known to be a little heavier than they claim)
Phew - sounded lardy.

tubs

65 posts

175 months

Tuesday 8th June
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I really hope this is good and priced sensibly ...but that's just a Volvo steering wheel and a digital display.....

AndrewD

7,235 posts

252 months

Tuesday 8th June
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I wondered what happened to the stock of Allegro steering wheels.

Roger Irrelevant

1,819 posts

81 months

Tuesday 8th June
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Well now that I know the new Lotus will have a steering wheel and some instruments I can barely contain myself. If they let slip further that it will have circular wheels with black tyres I will positively st with excitement.

LotusOmega375D

5,612 posts

121 months

Tuesday 8th June
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I think it will have the front end of an Evija and the back end of an Evora/Exige.

florian

189 posts

242 months

Tuesday 8th June
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Olivera said:
It's not the A45 engine, most likely a Geeley parts bin 4 cylinder with 250-300bhp.
I also think it will be based on the Geely 1.8 litre 4 cylinder Turbo with the 7-speed dual clutch transmission. Geely builds hundreds of thousands of these engines and transmissions per year. That's a significant cost reduction potential compared to the sophisticated AMG A45 engine. I'm sure Lotus/Geely will tap into that.

http://global.geely.com/intec/g-power/

Edited by florian on Tuesday 8th June 09:02

evotion

10 posts

218 months

Tuesday 8th June
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Blimey, what a miserable bunch of pessimistic drivel on here - 2 posts only in genuine support on the thread.

"It's just an opinion" - zzzz. Bashing one picture without balancing what might be some epic wins on the rest of the car.

Wait until the car is shown, driven and a judgement on the package can be ascertained.
If you then don't like the direction the carpet is flowing you can buy something else.

We already know this is not a Lotus in the ethos of the Elise, Exige and a bit more like the Evora but perhaps even softer - OMG!.
It will be heavier and it is aimed at the mass market. Deal with it and buy it or don't buy it.
It may well struggle in the face of Porsche but they have to try. Nothing about the binnacle shouts 'the end of Lotus'.

This thread confirms my thoughts that it won't be Lotus drivers. or maybe even Petrolheads, that buy it but it will the more comfort conscious. Yes, that might not be your thing but they have to make money and they can't just bring out a new Elise.

If you want something more raw then get an Exige - they are awesome and the prices will stabilise and end up being cheaper GT3s holding their value well.

Me. I represent the mass market and a more comfortable everyday car from a Marque that means something to an Englishman sounds utterly fantastic to me.

Note: Never mind that it is supposed to look great and will undoubtedly have some Lotus DNA brilliance running through it.


Go out, enjoy the sun, celebrate life and come back with some positivity.

Frimley111R

11,688 posts

202 months

Tuesday 8th June
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stickleback123 said:
Does anyone outside the room full of marketing tossers at the car companies and the room full of motoring "journalist" tossers desperate for any content actually give a crap about these tedious "reveals"?
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4 pages of comments so far indicates the answer to your question is yes.

CraigyMc

12,469 posts

204 months

Tuesday 8th June
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florian said:
Olivera said:
It's not the A45 engine, most likely a Geeley parts bin 4 cylinder with 250-300bhp.
I also think it will be based on the Geely 1.8 litre 4 cylinder Turbo with the 7-speed dual clutch transmission. Geely builds hundreds of thousands of these engines and transmissions per year. That's a significant cost reduction potential compared to the sophisticated AMG A45 engine. I'm sure Lotus/Geely will tap into that.

http://global.geely.com/intec/g-power/
Except they've already said it's not a geely engine, and noted that they are free to go outside the group.

delta0

1,421 posts

74 months

Tuesday 8th June
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The Emira is aimed at the 911 so that should help give an idea of the kind of engine to expect. An A45 engine would fit with that. It also suggests we are operating in the 380-640bhp range. I wonder if we will see AWD as well

Edited by delta0 on Tuesday 8th June 09:45

dandare

782 posts

222 months

Tuesday 8th June
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Northernboy said:
Olivera said:
My point was a counter argument to 'today's supercars are so fast they cannot have a manual gearbox', which just isn't true (see Gordon Murray T50). Emissions, efficiency and the requirements of the typical buyer dictate auto.
I didn’t say they can’t, I pointed out why automatics make more sense at the higher-end.

It’s no coincidence that my faster cars are automatics and my slower ones are manual, I like a manual, but would find it a pain in the backside when properly pushing on in something very fast.
Maybe automatics are for slower brains, and manuals for faster ones? It sort of levels the playing field. Communism in cars.
I've always been disappointed by autos. They rarely do what I want. One simply has more control with a manual, even if it might be slightly slower. Way more satisfying.

Northernboy

11,141 posts

225 months

Tuesday 8th June
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dandare said:
Maybe automatics are for slower brains, and manuals for faster ones? It sort of levels the playing field. Communism in cars.
I've always been disappointed by autos. They rarely do what I want. One simply has more control with a manual, even if it might be slightly slower. Way more satisfying.
What a strange insult to lob in, it makes no sense at all.

florian

189 posts

242 months

Tuesday 8th June
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CraigyMc said:
Except they've already said it's not a geely engine, and noted that they are free to go outside the group.
Can you provide a source?
Because Geely is extremely cost aware.