RE: Caterham Seven 420R | Spotted

RE: Caterham Seven 420R | Spotted

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squirdan

760 posts

115 months

Tuesday 8th June
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ddom said:
Can’t be Chris’s....not an SV getmecoat
I thought that...Ive met him and he has legs like tree trunks (unsurprisingly)

must be a tight fit !

PH User

18,999 posts

76 months

Tuesday 8th June
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squirdan said:
ddom said:
Can’t be Chris’s....not an SV getmecoat
I thought that...Ive met him and he has legs like tree trunks (unsurprisingly)

must be a tight fit !
Maybe he puts one leg down each side and sits on the transmission tunnel!

Sandpit Steve

3,526 posts

42 months

Tuesday 8th June
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darren f said:
I’m really surprised Chris Hoy actually fitted in a S3. They are pretty narrow and I’m guessing he probably has thighs the diameter of tree trunks. Which no doubt explains the lack of seat, I reckon he was using a foam seat with him sat on the floor- he’d certainly never fit in Tillets. When I built my Seven there were no such thing as lowered floors, a foam seat was the only way for 6’+ drivers to get sat low enough for using an aero screen...., I have happy memories of a winter’s afternoon sat in the drivers seat enjoying the exothermic reaction of the foam curing around me, it does wonders for a bad back.
That’s why there’s no seat in it. He obviously just sat on the bare floor with a bit of dyno-foam under his arse. driving

BillyB

1,279 posts

226 months

Tuesday 8th June
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I was told he also owned this at one point (which is an SV): https://www.caterhamcars.com/en/in-stock/model?id=...

RacerMike

2,930 posts

179 months

Wednesday 9th June
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CoffeePls said:
Clearly he specified the sequential box because the usual clutch was just too heavy for him biggrin
You've clearly never experienced the clutch that goes with this Sadev box then! It's as progressive as a light switch and needs most of you're body weight behind it. The normal 'Caterham' box is a great deal lighter than most normal cars by comparison.

The car very much looks like it's one of the 420R race cars (he owned one) that's been given a bit of a power bump (they're 180hp in race trim) given a decent paint job and then 'converted' to road use. The 'outboard' full cage and Sadev box are classic signs of race car origins. I suspect it's done a lot more than 520 miles....it's practice to disconnect the speedo if you race them as the fuse for the wheel speed sensor is the same as the one for the ignition. If the sensor breaks (not uncommon) it kills the car. Less than ideal mid race.

And as for those unimpressed by the power output.....at Silverstone I did a lap behind my mate who I'd raced in Caterhams when I'd moved up to doing GT4. There was nothing in it in a straight line between the 420R and our 450hp V8 Aston GT4 car....it was actually the corners where the GT4 car destroyed the Caterham which I didn't expect! A 210hp Caterham is not in anyway slow.

ddom

4,440 posts

16 months

Wednesday 9th June
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RacerMike said:
You've clearly never experienced the clutch that goes with this Sadev box then! It's as progressive as a light switch and needs most of you're body weight behind it. The normal 'Caterham' box is a great deal lighter than most normal cars by comparison.

The car very much looks like it's one of the 420R race cars (he owned one) that's been given a bit of a power bump (they're 180hp in race trim) given a decent paint job and then 'converted' to road use. The 'outboard' full cage and Sadev box are classic signs of race car origins. I suspect it's done a lot more than 520 miles....it's practice to disconnect the speedo if you race them as the fuse for the wheel speed sensor is the same as the one for the ignition. If the sensor breaks (not uncommon) it kills the car. Less than ideal mid race.

And as for those unimpressed by the power output.....at Silverstone I did a lap behind my mate who I'd raced in Caterhams when I'd moved up to doing GT4. There was nothing in it in a straight line between the 420R and our 450hp V8 Aston GT4 car....it was actually the corners where the GT4 car destroyed the Caterham which I didn't expect! A 210hp Caterham is not in anyway slow.
Not unimpressed but when you have had the hit of the 620, or have owned big power Duranails on anything other than a tight twisty track you do run out of steam sometimes. And, it's expensive. The issue with that box is it makes you drive like a loon, otherwise it's just awkward. Less awkward than the truly agricultural Quaife in the old R500's but it's very much a race box.

Dr G

14,156 posts

210 months

Wednesday 9th June
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Is there anything Pistonheads can't arbitrarily complain about?

That showroom looks a wonderful place to stroll around over a coffee; many lovely things to ogle.

RacerMike

2,930 posts

179 months

Wednesday 9th June
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ddom said:
Not unimpressed but when you have had the hit of the 620, or have owned big power Duranails on anything other than a tight twisty track you do run out of steam sometimes. And, it's expensive. The issue with that box is it makes you drive like a loon, otherwise it's just awkward. Less awkward than the truly agricultural Quaife in the old R500's but it's very much a race box.
Interesting that you say that as the 620R series failed to take off because nearly everyone who tested it felt it wasn’t significantly quick enough than the 420R to warrant the pricey upgrade. At the time the (then) R300s still had the manual 6sp box so they ended up flogging the 620R upgrade parts to existing R300 drivers to upgrade the series but without the supercharger and intercooler. With the Sadev ratio’s your Rev limited in 6th anyway at about 130mph. With a tow a 320R is actually quicker!

I would agree on the road I can imagine any sequential is pretty brutal. I had bruises on my left palm after doing an hours worth of driving at Estoril in a 420R.

Pan Pan Pan

7,905 posts

79 months

Friday 11th June
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Dr G said:
Is there anything Pistonheads can't arbitrarily complain about?

That showroom looks a wonderful place to stroll around over a coffee; many lovely things to ogle.
It is just a PistonHeads thing, because no matter what the subject, what the view point on the subject is, or who it is that has that viewpoint, there is always someone out there, who will have an opposing view.
Which is part of what make PistonHeads such an interesting, entertaining, and sometimes informative forum to visit.

Bracken

43 posts

206 months

Friday 11th June
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I'm not far from Oakmere and was going to wander down there, next weekend probably, for a nose about... not going now, because I badly want this weeping

Best to keep away... rolleyes

RudeDog

1,562 posts

142 months

Monday 14th June
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PH User said:
I like that boot lid, it looks very neat.
Is this an optional thing? Every other car I've seen has the leather thing with the press studs around the side. I agree, it looks much better.

RacerMike

2,930 posts

179 months

Tuesday 15th June
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RudeDog said:
Is this an optional thing? Every other car I've seen has the leather thing with the press studs around the side. I agree, it looks much better.
It's the motorsport boot which is aluminium panels held on with dzeus fasteners. It's not easily removable so doesn't work so well for road cars!