The Joy of Running an Old Shed (Vol 2)
Discussion
ferrisbueller said:
lord trumpton said:
I just can't commit to shedding.
I'm just not the type who can just 'live with things' as and when they go wrong.
No matter how cheap or how expensive any car I've owned has been, Its got to be 100% both aesthetically and mechanically.
Any niggles are always dealt with and and damage sorted asap.
I genuinely wish I could just be happy schlepping around in a tatty snotter but I just can't.
Good luck to those who can though!
It doesn't have to be tatty, or unreliable and continuously breaking. You can take pride in your cheap motoring.I'm just not the type who can just 'live with things' as and when they go wrong.
No matter how cheap or how expensive any car I've owned has been, Its got to be 100% both aesthetically and mechanically.
Any niggles are always dealt with and and damage sorted asap.
I genuinely wish I could just be happy schlepping around in a tatty snotter but I just can't.
Good luck to those who can though!
My Golf looks rough as sticks, but it is mechanically spot on and wearing 160k miles with pride.
Things are wrong with it, but nothing I can't live with.
There is a fine line however and whilst yes, sheds don't need to be neglected buckets of crap... equally I'm not sure any fastidious behaviours towards a shed is still shedding. Being 100% over the condition of a cars bodywork is, in my mind, why shedding exists. Ie, to drive something where you aren't that concerned, don't invest hours of your time and aren't a slave to ensuring something materialistic remains flawless. As I've said before, shedding varies from person to person but if you're happy to invest lots of time on the presentation of a shed, then ask yourself "If this got scratched or dinged, would it be a massive issue for me?" and if the answer is yes, not sure that's shed ethos. Granted, most would be a bit miffed our sheds were damaged on purpose, that's different... but general wear and tear obtained whilst going about ones business with minimal f**ks is to be expected and the reason why many choose to run a shed. I'm just not sure something detailed to within an inch of it's life can be called a shed... but each to their own. Clean and presentable, yes... hours of machine polishing... that's becoming too attached, too constrained.
mibman2004 said:
Bought this a few months ago.
2007 Jaguar X Type, 163k miles, drives really well. It had no MOT at the time but it cost me £60 to put it through!
2.2d so pulls well too. Bodywork is in great condition and the wheels had also been recently powdercoated...! Absolute steal at £525!
How is the underside for grot?2007 Jaguar X Type, 163k miles, drives really well. It had no MOT at the time but it cost me £60 to put it through!
2.2d so pulls well too. Bodywork is in great condition and the wheels had also been recently powdercoated...! Absolute steal at £525!
I had a 2009 2.2 auto one, it threw me every single common X-Type issue. Rust, injectors, EGR, rust, boost hose, rust, turbo. Also, it rusted like it had been parked in the sea.
Shame, because it was a looker and it drove well.
I think for most, shedding is a car that you can chuck anything in it, and it will take you anywhere.
It's actually quite liberating not having to worry about your car.
Also the cost of the car is compared to a number of weeks wages, scratches/dints are to be expected and it's treated as a tool for a job. Getting you A to B.
It's actually quite liberating not having to worry about your car.
Also the cost of the car is compared to a number of weeks wages, scratches/dints are to be expected and it's treated as a tool for a job. Getting you A to B.
lord trumpton said:
I just can't commit to shedding.
I'm just not the type who can just 'live with things' as and when they go wrong.
No matter how cheap or how expensive any car I've owned has been, Its got to be 100% both aesthetically and mechanically.
Any niggles are always dealt with and and damage sorted asap.
I genuinely wish I could just be happy schlepping around in a tatty snotter but I just can't.
Good luck to those who can though!
Where do you live ? Since I have cars, I always lived in big-ish cities (counter intuitive logic, but we are on PH I'm just not the type who can just 'live with things' as and when they go wrong.
No matter how cheap or how expensive any car I've owned has been, Its got to be 100% both aesthetically and mechanically.
Any niggles are always dealt with and and damage sorted asap.
I genuinely wish I could just be happy schlepping around in a tatty snotter but I just can't.
Good luck to those who can though!
). I can take care as much as I want, but the others won't. Can't afford to have a lock garage for all of them, and even if, what when you use them and park them ? So, after one or two years of trying to keep them "perfect", I just gave up... The most difficult are the first scratches, if your car hasn't any at all. Once there is few here and there, then you accept the next ones much better
Edited by cedrichn on Monday 9th May 08:24
Davie said:
There is a fine line however and whilst yes, sheds don't need to be neglected buckets of crap... equally I'm not sure any fastidious behaviours towards a shed is still shedding. Being 100% over the condition of a cars bodywork is, in my mind, why shedding exists. Ie, to drive something where you aren't that concerned, don't invest hours of your time and aren't a slave to ensuring something materialistic remains flawless. As I've said before, shedding varies from person to person but if you're happy to invest lots of time on the presentation of a shed, then ask yourself "If this got scratched or dinged, would it be a massive issue for me?" and if the answer is yes, not sure that's shed ethos. Granted, most would be a bit miffed our sheds were damaged on purpose, that's different... but general wear and tear obtained whilst going about ones business with minimal f**ks is to be expected and the reason why many choose to run a shed. I'm just not sure something detailed to within an inch of it's life can be called a shed... but each to their own. Clean and presentable, yes... hours of machine polishing... that's becoming too attached, too constrained.
I agree with that: I spend quiet a lot of time in my cars, and around them. I just can't not clean a dirty car and hoover in it from time to time: I would feel like wearing dirty clothes permanently. While I can have a dirty car from time to time (or dirty clothes when working on the car or the garden), it will just not last too long. It is just not comfortable as soon as you use the car as a daily, for me.On the other side, I can't be bothered of polishing, 2 buckets, ceramic coating, blablabla.... As said previously, living in cities, my cars get light scratches anyway. So, water on the hose, sponge, microfibre, and job done!
Davie said:
There is a fine line however and whilst yes, sheds don't need to be neglected buckets of crap... equally I'm not sure any fastidious behaviours towards a shed is still shedding. Being 100% over the condition of a cars bodywork is, in my mind, why shedding exists. Ie, to drive something where you aren't that concerned, don't invest hours of your time and aren't a slave to ensuring something materialistic remains flawless. As I've said before, shedding varies from person to person but if you're happy to invest lots of time on the presentation of a shed, then ask yourself "If this got scratched or dinged, would it be a massive issue for me?" and if the answer is yes, not sure that's shed ethos. Granted, most would be a bit miffed our sheds were damaged on purpose, that's different... but general wear and tear obtained whilst going about ones business with minimal f**ks is to be expected and the reason why many choose to run a shed. I'm just not sure something detailed to within an inch of it's life can be called a shed... but each to their own. Clean and presentable, yes... hours of machine polishing... that's becoming too attached, too constrained.
That's partly why I sold the 320d, It was too nice to neglect. I found myself doing what I did with with more expensive metal and parking away from other cars. The big fun of a shed is not caring about bodyworkMuddyK said:
I think for most, shedding is a car that you can chuck anything in it, and it will take you anywhere.
It's actually quite liberating not having to worry about your car.
Also the cost of the car is compared to a number of weeks wages, scratches/dints are to be expected and it's treated as a tool for a job. Getting you A to B.
Exactly this, my 2008 £1k Vectra SRI 1.8, I got last month, is utterly abused for work, carrying photographic gear in the week (enormous hatchback) and taking X2 bikes at the weekends when I am out on the trails in North Wales, also makes great sense using it for business mileage, pays for itself relatively quickly if you look at it like this, as you aint paying for depreciation or anything It's actually quite liberating not having to worry about your car.
Also the cost of the car is compared to a number of weeks wages, scratches/dints are to be expected and it's treated as a tool for a job. Getting you A to B.
Really is utterly liberating not caring, for me mainly cosmetically about it, came with so many scrapes and dents, its almost cool when its parked next to some pricey metal at work
Mechanically I will change the oil every 10kish (eBay £15 oil it has), make sure its running ok - but only if it needs anything it will get money spent on it.
Still a true petrol head, just dont want to be shafted and spending my money on other things now in life, which makes me money also.
757 said:
MuddyK said:
I think for most, shedding is a car that you can chuck anything in it, and it will take you anywhere.
It's actually quite liberating not having to worry about your car.
Also the cost of the car is compared to a number of weeks wages, scratches/dints are to be expected and it's treated as a tool for a job. Getting you A to B.
Exactly this, my 2008 £1k Vectra SRI 1.8, I got last month, is utterly abused for work, carrying photographic gear in the week (enormous hatchback) and taking X2 bikes at the weekends when I am out on the trails in North Wales, also makes great sense using it for business mileage, pays for itself relatively quickly if you look at it like this, as you aint paying for depreciation or anything It's actually quite liberating not having to worry about your car.
Also the cost of the car is compared to a number of weeks wages, scratches/dints are to be expected and it's treated as a tool for a job. Getting you A to B.
Really is utterly liberating not caring, for me mainly cosmetically about it, came with so many scrapes and dents, its almost cool when its parked next to some pricey metal at work
Mechanically I will change the oil every 10kish (eBay £15 oil it has), make sure its running ok - but only if it needs anything it will get money spent on it.
Still a true petrol head, just dont want to be shafted and spending my money on other things now in life, which makes me money also.
Ironically though I've not had a single car park mark/dent since owning it!
757 said:
Really is utterly liberating not caring, for me mainly cosmetically about it, came with so many scrapes and dents, its almost cool when its parked next to some pricey metal at work
And it really isn't a plan rocking up to work in a more expensive car than the MD drives anyway. I always avoided taking any of my Jaguars anywhere near just in case somebody upstairs saw it and decided I was being paid too much.
COM31E said:
mibman2004 said:
Bought this a few months ago.
2007 Jaguar X Type, 163k miles, drives really well. It had no MOT at the time but it cost me £60 to put it through!
2.2d so pulls well too. Bodywork is in great condition and the wheels had also been recently powdercoated...! Absolute steal at £525!
How is the underside for grot?2007 Jaguar X Type, 163k miles, drives really well. It had no MOT at the time but it cost me £60 to put it through!
2.2d so pulls well too. Bodywork is in great condition and the wheels had also been recently powdercoated...! Absolute steal at £525!
I had a 2009 2.2 auto one, it threw me every single common X-Type issue. Rust, injectors, EGR, rust, boost hose, rust, turbo. Also, it rusted like it had been parked in the sea.
Shame, because it was a looker and it drove well.
cedrichn said:
I agree with that: I spend quiet a lot of time in my cars, and around them. I just can't not clean a dirty car and hoover in it from time to time: I would feel like wearing dirty clothes permanently. While I can have a dirty car from time to time (or dirty clothes when working on the car or the garden), it will just not last too long. It is just not comfortable as soon as you use the car as a daily, for me.
On the other side, I can't be bothered of polishing, 2 buckets, ceramic coating, blablabla.... As said previously, living in cities, my cars get light scratches anyway. So, water on the hose, sponge, microfibre, and job done!
I'm with you on that one... no need for fastidious pampering when it comes to sheddy cars but equally, I couldn't cope with a dirty interior, as in stains, years of filth and things living in it. The sort of car you need PPE to drive it and a tetanus shot after getting out is just pretty disgusting. Granted, muddy footprints, the collateral damage of a tip run and the chaos the kids leave behind is fine and easily hoovered and wiped up. On the other side, I can't be bothered of polishing, 2 buckets, ceramic coating, blablabla.... As said previously, living in cities, my cars get light scratches anyway. So, water on the hose, sponge, microfibre, and job done!
Likewise the exterior, I'm not into green mould growing and utter neglect... that's when a shed rapidly becomes a proper shed so I'll periodically wash mine but with minimal commitment. Soak in snow foam, rinse off and that's sufficient to remove the bird crap and bits of roadkill from the front bumper. Granted, there are times I miss the days of having something nicer / shinier / faster occupying garage space doubling up as a bit of a hobby and the little use the current shed gets means I still find myself thinking I could justify something nicer, shinier...
Then I open the garage door and go "Ahhh, right... yeah, nah" and that's why shedding works for me...
Ive dipped back into the market for a shed as a filler awaiting my company car delayed until Autumn. My current car has just gone back. It was a lease and I wasnt prepared to pickup the major service,mot and tyres that it was soon to need. After fastidiously going through all the usual classifieds, different models(didnt really care what it was providing it was less than £1500, I was struggling with how mamy were rotters out there. Well I picked one up last week after coinciding with the PH shed of the week(saw the post after I had bought mine. For £1085 fsh, tyres in good nick and only 1 thing not working(heated seat) 108k miles. Got the train and drove 170miles back from norfolk to Hampshire. I forgot how much fun cars like these can be. Roof down for the summer and wondering whether I will offload it when time comes 
mibman2004 said:
COM31E said:
mibman2004 said:
Bought this a few months ago.
2007 Jaguar X Type, 163k miles, drives really well. It had no MOT at the time but it cost me £60 to put it through!
2.2d so pulls well too. Bodywork is in great condition and the wheels had also been recently powdercoated...! Absolute steal at £525!
How is the underside for grot?2007 Jaguar X Type, 163k miles, drives really well. It had no MOT at the time but it cost me £60 to put it through!
2.2d so pulls well too. Bodywork is in great condition and the wheels had also been recently powdercoated...! Absolute steal at £525!
I had a 2009 2.2 auto one, it threw me every single common X-Type issue. Rust, injectors, EGR, rust, boost hose, rust, turbo. Also, it rusted like it had been parked in the sea.
Shame, because it was a looker and it drove well.
Ouroboros said:
my understanding with the x type is the sills hide the rust, and hard to tell unless you remove them?
Had two X-Types and one was 2003 paid £950 for it and had new outer sills welded on for £300 both sides which I thought was very cheap in 2015. Fairly reliable car did 80k miles in 4 years and passed an MOT every year until I sold it for £600.Next one was 2004 and was very clean underneath and not one spot of rust on either sill.
The guy that did the welding on the first one told me he had done dozens of early X-Types. It seems not putting a drain hole at the back near the rear jacking point allowed water to gather and rot them out but from 2004 onwards they seemed to have sorted it
I've got a cheap Jaguar X-Type 2.0d SE. Paid £600 for it with 101k on the clock, its a late 2006 on a 56 plate with cream heated leathers, touch screen nav drives fine but a bit rattly. I've been running it now since March last year and put 10k on it. Serviced it and replaced a few bits to keep it running as it should. I've swapped out some bits from a Sport model being broken for parts, so its now got a nice set of 18s on it, sport bumpers, mesh grille and the lip boot spoiler. Given it to my wife to replace her 2015 Insignia which is a bag of spanners. I also have an X-Type estate on a 57 plate which is a good old workhorse.
With the Orion nearing completion to use every day, I needed a shed to run until it was. The ML had to go, insurance was more than I wanted to pay and I yet again couldn't get on with it. I bought this today for £350, it's a PD130 sport estate with the tiptronic box, 23 days MOT left and a potentially valuable private plate I can maybe sell. Plan is to use it then scrap it when the MOT is out as scrap will more than pay for the car. I messaged within 50 seconds of the ad going up and already he had 20 other messages, I could get there first so he sold it to me. No idea how it drives, I just know it runs and moves. I'll post some pics when I collect it tomorrow
v15ben said:
I think you're buying more sheds than anyone on the thread, even Bearman, at the minute. 
I've found it impossible to get on with anything atm, I just can't find anything I'm happy with at all. The Golf should do me well until the Orion is fully sorted, I am looking forward to the fuel economy and poke of a PD130 againGassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff