Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 21]
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BenB91 said:
Anybody fancy a MOT horrow show - Bmw 550i Touring? - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125447594187
The seller reckons its a £600-700 job to fix. What a lie!
I've priced the required work:
Brake discs and pads - £505.71
Brake pad sensors - £28.91
Shock absorbers - £830.40
Air con condensor (probably needed) - £114
Aircon regas - £75
Brake lines - couldn't find a price - Let's say £100
Total parts = £1,654.02 + Labour!
I don't see this selling anytime soon.
Wow, impressive!The seller reckons its a £600-700 job to fix. What a lie!
I've priced the required work:
Brake discs and pads - £505.71
Brake pad sensors - £28.91
Shock absorbers - £830.40
Air con condensor (probably needed) - £114
Aircon regas - £75
Brake lines - couldn't find a price - Let's say £100
Total parts = £1,654.02 + Labour!
I don't see this selling anytime soon.
Most of those parts can be had cheaper (in good brands), e.g. 4x Bilstein B4s for a shade under 500 quid, but tbh why bother? So much to do there, high miles and still a big asking price. Dreamer vendor.
The best bit is claiming the CCV needs doing, when on that engine it'll be stem seals for sure!
Krikkit said:
BenB91 said:
Anybody fancy a MOT horrow show - Bmw 550i Touring? - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125447594187
The seller reckons its a £600-700 job to fix. What a lie!
I've priced the required work:
Brake discs and pads - £505.71
Brake pad sensors - £28.91
Shock absorbers - £830.40
Air con condensor (probably needed) - £114
Aircon regas - £75
Brake lines - couldn't find a price - Let's say £100
Total parts = £1,654.02 + Labour!
I don't see this selling anytime soon.
Wow, impressive!The seller reckons its a £600-700 job to fix. What a lie!
I've priced the required work:
Brake discs and pads - £505.71
Brake pad sensors - £28.91
Shock absorbers - £830.40
Air con condensor (probably needed) - £114
Aircon regas - £75
Brake lines - couldn't find a price - Let's say £100
Total parts = £1,654.02 + Labour!
I don't see this selling anytime soon.
Most of those parts can be had cheaper (in good brands), e.g. 4x Bilstein B4s for a shade under 500 quid, but tbh why bother? So much to do there, high miles and still a big asking price. Dreamer vendor.
The best bit is claiming the CCV needs doing, when on that engine it'll be stem seals for sure!
BenB91 said:
Anybody fancy a MOT horrow show - Bmw 550i Touring? - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125447594187
The seller reckons its a £600-700 job to fix. What a lie!
I've priced the required work:
Brake discs and pads - £505.71
Brake pad sensors - £28.91
Shock absorbers - £830.40
Air con condensor (probably needed) - £114
Aircon regas - £75
Brake lines - couldn't find a price - Let's say £100
Total parts = £1,654.02 + Labour!
I don't see this selling anytime soon.
Completely agree with you there. Nice pictures, but can't imagine there being a huge market for a ropey petrol V8, high tax and high mileage (160k isn't high, but it will be to your average punter).The seller reckons its a £600-700 job to fix. What a lie!
I've priced the required work:
Brake discs and pads - £505.71
Brake pad sensors - £28.91
Shock absorbers - £830.40
Air con condensor (probably needed) - £114
Aircon regas - £75
Brake lines - couldn't find a price - Let's say £100
Total parts = £1,654.02 + Labour!
I don't see this selling anytime soon.
Also had to laugh at "the gearbox is the best I’ve ever felt from an early E60/E61"...someone has a hobby of feeling gearboxes? Sorry, being childish.
BenB91 said:
Anybody fancy a MOT horrow show - Bmw 550i Touring? - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125447594187
The seller reckons its a £600-700 job to fix. What a lie!
I've priced the required work:
Brake discs and pads - £505.71
Brake pad sensors - £28.91
Shock absorbers - £830.40
Air con condensor (probably needed) - £114
Aircon regas - £75
Brake lines - couldn't find a price - Let's say £100
Total parts = £1,654.02 + Labour!
I don't see this selling anytime soon.
You forgot the 2k odd for valve stem seals (if you're lucky) plus £££(£) for sorting the oil the car is leaking rather than consuming.The seller reckons its a £600-700 job to fix. What a lie!
I've priced the required work:
Brake discs and pads - £505.71
Brake pad sensors - £28.91
Shock absorbers - £830.40
Air con condensor (probably needed) - £114
Aircon regas - £75
Brake lines - couldn't find a price - Let's say £100
Total parts = £1,654.02 + Labour!
I don't see this selling anytime soon.
It's the hardlines that are corroded so the brake pipes have the potential to be really labour intensive depending on what needs to be dropped for access.
Oh, and worth bearing in mind that he's a trader... So probably has a "friendly" MOT tester and yet still had the longest fail sheet I've ever seen.
They also will get trade rate on labour and parts, and even he doesn't want anything to do with trying to fix it

Notice that the other over priced e61 he's flogging is also broken. He expects you to weight in nearly ten grand for a 13 year old diesel BMW and expects to charge the buyer extra for fixing parking sensors and making sure all the windows open
Absolutely joker, but shows what a few nice pictures and a detail can do for your margins.
BenB91 said:
Anybody fancy a MOT horrow show - Bmw 550i Touring? - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125447594187
The seller reckons its a £600-700 job to fix. What a lie!
I've priced the required work:
Brake discs and pads - £505.71
Brake pad sensors - £28.91
Shock absorbers - £830.40
Air con condensor (probably needed) - £114
Aircon regas - £75
Brake lines - couldn't find a price - Let's say £100
Total parts = £1,654.02 + Labour!
I don't see this selling anytime soon.
The kind of thing that might be worth a punt at £2k, £3k at an absolute pinch. The seller reckons its a £600-700 job to fix. What a lie!
I've priced the required work:
Brake discs and pads - £505.71
Brake pad sensors - £28.91
Shock absorbers - £830.40
Air con condensor (probably needed) - £114
Aircon regas - £75
Brake lines - couldn't find a price - Let's say £100
Total parts = £1,654.02 + Labour!
I don't see this selling anytime soon.
He's having a laugh at that price.
tobinen said:
I nearly used CarVertical for the SL but I baulked at the cost. I can't recall which one I used but it's just HPI/Experian with a fancy website.
I need a suggestion please to remove a musty smell from the boot of the CL. I don't own a wet vac. I have used AutoGlym interior spray stuff and a brush and then let it dry in the sun but it's not much better.
You can try soda. I would say pour it on a newspaper as it would be a pita to vacuum after.I need a suggestion please to remove a musty smell from the boot of the CL. I don't own a wet vac. I have used AutoGlym interior spray stuff and a brush and then let it dry in the sun but it's not much better.
Cheeky little update on the S600 now that I'm 3 weeks in...
Car was delivered. Drove it very gently home, expecting it to explode. Went on holiday. Came back expecting:
A) a lake of fluids on the garage floor;
B) collapsed suspension;
C) it not to start; or
D) all of the above
I'm happy/confused/terrified to report that it did none of the above. Garage was dry, suspension hadn't dropped a millimetre and it whirred into life on the button (exotic sounding starter motor and higher than expected idle is very money supermarket).
So far so good(ish).
Current Bork list that I have identified (*evident at purchase)
- 50-60mph wheel shimmy (offside front wheel is slightly bent, praying that this is the cause)
- *front active seats don't work
-spare wheel tyre valve is (inexplicably) split
- very minor weep of hydrocarbons from top of engine (suspect rocker gasket)
I could write a book on how it drives, but I'll compare it instead to Autobantz Snr's new 'M' 740d (the one with the MASSIVE GRILLE). That car to me drives like a big 5-series... And that's not a compliment. NVH levels are far higher than you'd expect, the damping feels unsophisticated and the ride is generally busy. Not unpleasant, but not what I expected either.
The old W221 by comparison (admidely a much more expensive car than the equivalent 7er would have been), drives like you'd expect of a big luxo-barge. It's eerily quiet, turbine smooth and delivers earth-stopping reserves of torque from nowhere. It also handles surprisingly well, too. The ABC suspension is remarkable; a marvel even now. If pushed for comparison, I'd say it drives like a Continental GT (never driven the Spur). And yet, the current gen BMW 7er is extremely popular out here. I have no idea why.

Going to stick it into the specialist for a full service and a once over. Wish me luck!
Car was delivered. Drove it very gently home, expecting it to explode. Went on holiday. Came back expecting:
A) a lake of fluids on the garage floor;
B) collapsed suspension;
C) it not to start; or
D) all of the above
I'm happy/confused/terrified to report that it did none of the above. Garage was dry, suspension hadn't dropped a millimetre and it whirred into life on the button (exotic sounding starter motor and higher than expected idle is very money supermarket).
So far so good(ish).
Current Bork list that I have identified (*evident at purchase)
- 50-60mph wheel shimmy (offside front wheel is slightly bent, praying that this is the cause)
- *front active seats don't work
-spare wheel tyre valve is (inexplicably) split
- very minor weep of hydrocarbons from top of engine (suspect rocker gasket)
I could write a book on how it drives, but I'll compare it instead to Autobantz Snr's new 'M' 740d (the one with the MASSIVE GRILLE). That car to me drives like a big 5-series... And that's not a compliment. NVH levels are far higher than you'd expect, the damping feels unsophisticated and the ride is generally busy. Not unpleasant, but not what I expected either.
The old W221 by comparison (admidely a much more expensive car than the equivalent 7er would have been), drives like you'd expect of a big luxo-barge. It's eerily quiet, turbine smooth and delivers earth-stopping reserves of torque from nowhere. It also handles surprisingly well, too. The ABC suspension is remarkable; a marvel even now. If pushed for comparison, I'd say it drives like a Continental GT (never driven the Spur). And yet, the current gen BMW 7er is extremely popular out here. I have no idea why.

Going to stick it into the specialist for a full service and a once over. Wish me luck!
Autobantz said:
Cheeky little update on the S600 now that I'm 3 weeks in...
Car was delivered. Drove it very gently home, expecting it to explode. Went on holiday. Came back expecting:
A) a lake of fluids on the garage floor;
B) collapsed suspension;
C) it not to start; or
D) all of the above
I'm happy/confused/terrified to report that it did none of the above. Garage was dry, suspension hadn't dropped a millimetre and it whirred into life on the button (exotic sounding starter motor and higher than expected idle is very money supermarket).
So far so good(ish).
Current Bork list that I have identified (*evident at purchase)
- 50-60mph wheel shimmy (offside front wheel is slightly bent, praying that this is the cause)
- *front active seats don't work
-spare wheel tyre valve is (inexplicably) split
- very minor weep of hydrocarbons from top of engine (suspect rocker gasket)
I could write a book on how it drives, but I'll compare it instead to Autobantz Snr's new 'M' 740d (the one with the MASSIVE GRILLE). That car to me drives like a big 5-series... And that's not a compliment. NVH levels are far higher than you'd expect, the damping feels unsophisticated and the ride is generally busy. Not unpleasant, but not what I expected either.
The old W221 by comparison (admidely a much more expensive car than the equivalent 7er would have been), drives like you'd expect of a big luxo-barge. It's eerily quiet, turbine smooth and delivers earth-stopping reserves of torque from nowhere. It also handles surprisingly well, too. The ABC suspension is remarkable; a marvel even now. If pushed for comparison, I'd say it drives like a Continental GT (never driven the Spur). And yet, the current gen BMW 7er is extremely popular out here. I have no idea why.

Going to stick it into the specialist for a full service and a once over. Wish me luck!
That's fantastic! Could it be that the new 7er is on basic suspension, and a higher spec example on air would be better? Car was delivered. Drove it very gently home, expecting it to explode. Went on holiday. Came back expecting:
A) a lake of fluids on the garage floor;
B) collapsed suspension;
C) it not to start; or
D) all of the above
I'm happy/confused/terrified to report that it did none of the above. Garage was dry, suspension hadn't dropped a millimetre and it whirred into life on the button (exotic sounding starter motor and higher than expected idle is very money supermarket).
So far so good(ish).
Current Bork list that I have identified (*evident at purchase)
- 50-60mph wheel shimmy (offside front wheel is slightly bent, praying that this is the cause)
- *front active seats don't work
-spare wheel tyre valve is (inexplicably) split
- very minor weep of hydrocarbons from top of engine (suspect rocker gasket)
I could write a book on how it drives, but I'll compare it instead to Autobantz Snr's new 'M' 740d (the one with the MASSIVE GRILLE). That car to me drives like a big 5-series... And that's not a compliment. NVH levels are far higher than you'd expect, the damping feels unsophisticated and the ride is generally busy. Not unpleasant, but not what I expected either.
The old W221 by comparison (admidely a much more expensive car than the equivalent 7er would have been), drives like you'd expect of a big luxo-barge. It's eerily quiet, turbine smooth and delivers earth-stopping reserves of torque from nowhere. It also handles surprisingly well, too. The ABC suspension is remarkable; a marvel even now. If pushed for comparison, I'd say it drives like a Continental GT (never driven the Spur). And yet, the current gen BMW 7er is extremely popular out here. I have no idea why.

Going to stick it into the specialist for a full service and a once over. Wish me luck!
Have you got a reader's ride thread going?
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
That's fantastic! Could it be that the new 7er is on basic suspension, and a higher spec example on air would be better?
Have you got a reader's ride thread going?
Cheers!Have you got a reader's ride thread going?
Haven't done a reader's wives thing yet, but I'll stick something up. If anything, it'll be a cathartic means of articulating my spreadsheet of doom.
Autobantz said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
That's fantastic! Could it be that the new 7er is on basic suspension, and a higher spec example on air would be better?
Have you got a reader's ride thread going?
Cheers!Have you got a reader's ride thread going?
Haven't done a reader's wives thing yet, but I'll stick something up. If anything, it'll be a cathartic means of articulating my spreadsheet of doom.

I'd adore an S600, but my plums aren't big enough.
Bonefish Blues said:
It does. Not flashy, just the epitome of 'Get out of my way peasant, I've got another 400km of tarmac to crush before dinner' chic 
I've always wanted one in black.
This one's so black, it's got black leather roof lining.
Despite their commonality out here, a big black Merc Sonderklasse still carries an air of authority in the outside lane. Only my Land Cruiser matches it for rear view mirror dominance. And sadly, it's needed out here; lane discipline is otherwise nonexistent.
Autobantz said:
Bonefish Blues said:
It does. Not flashy, just the epitome of 'Get out of my way peasant, I've got another 400km of tarmac to crush before dinner' chic 
I've always wanted one in black.
This one's so black, it's got black leather roof lining.
Despite their commonality out here, a big black Merc Sonderklasse still carries an air of authority in the outside lane. Only my Land Cruiser matches it for rear view mirror dominance. And sadly, it's needed out here; lane discipline is otherwise nonexistent.

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