RE: 2022 Genesis GV60 | PH Review

RE: 2022 Genesis GV60 | PH Review

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Demonix

269 posts

189 months

Thursday 12th May
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For an ev SUV that looks ok, has a hint of Macan in the shape and the price is quite fair for something with that level of performance and finish but a tad optimistic for a brand with little consumer awareness in the UK. £74k for a poverty spec Taycan - how many folk actually have the will power to not tick the options boxes whilst being buttered up by the sales peeps @ an OPC? I bet very few orders are for completely options free Porsche cars. Genesis is an interesting alternative but will it sell well here?

romac

363 posts

123 months

Thursday 12th May
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Lovely to see an interior that is not like a sooty cave at midnight in the middle of an arctic winter.

The problem with this kind of branding (Genesis as the top dog over Hyundai / Kia) is that the lesser brand(s) have to be deliberately held back so that the luxo brand is perceivably better. I feel Lexus / Toyota were in that trap several years ago, but are finding a way out.

gmaz

3,880 posts

187 months

Thursday 12th May
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CrippsCorner said:
I just don't understand why this car needs to exist. Doesn't bring anything new... bland, but expensive. Interior is a weird mix, not sure I like it.
Because Hyundai & Kia are seen as "value" brands. Same reason Toyota has Lexus.

I like the car, but for the same money I could get a Tesla Model Y

mcelliott

7,636 posts

158 months

Thursday 12th May
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Should of put a Bentley badge on it, this place would be swimming in man milk

Demonix

269 posts

189 months

Thursday 12th May
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^ LoL - Genesis is way more visually appealing than a Bentayga and against that an utter bargain on price.

ajap1979

5,735 posts

164 months

Thursday 12th May
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Really don't like the way they've incorporated those screens for the wing mirror cameras.

Numeric

1,064 posts

128 months

Thursday 12th May
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aestivator said:
What a load of sales-y bks from our engineer friend here.

Ask why people are nostalgic for ICE powertrains, then release £77k turd that looks like a fridge and drives like one too.

I'm not anti-EV, but to say "everything is better on them" is ridiculous. Get back to me when I can drive my EV 500 miles on a charge and then completely refill it in under 5 minutes...
I had to laugh as well at the 'opportunity to be different' spiel then a car that has hints of Porsche design to me and seeming no attempt to emphasise any real advantage at all from the change in powertrain that I could ascertain in terms of design. As adventurous as a bar of soap.

charltjr

4,276 posts

172 months

Thursday 12th May
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I mean, of course it's sales puff, he wouldn't have much of a career in future if he was sat in front of the media and slagged off the product.

Doesn't mean he's wrong about ICE's not being a good solution, they were the best we had, but now they're done in the mass market. As economies of scale ramp up the ICE will become a niche option.

I love a great ICE engine, but I certainly don't care if the 2.0 turbo bore-boxes and their ilk are replaced with much more efficient electric motors.

Harrypop

2,458 posts

99 months

Thursday 12th May
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ajap1979 said:
Really don't like the way they've incorporated those screens for the wing mirror cameras.
Definitely the least successful part for me but then I've yet to see an example where they do look good to be honest. Maybe it's just the lack of familiarity that makes them look so out of place at this time.

ddom

6,367 posts

25 months

Thursday 12th May
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When the lead guy writes a load of guff about ICE, and essentially fails to read the room it'll go one of two ways.

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pb8g09

1,288 posts

46 months

Thursday 12th May
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mcelliott said:
Should of put a Bentley badge on it, this place would be swimming in man milk
LOL

DMZ

443 posts

137 months

Thursday 12th May
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It's a shame that the Macan lookalike costs as much as a Macan without doing Macan things

Hothouse

66 posts

67 months

Thursday 12th May
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Can anyone honestly tell me this is worth £50k over the new Nissan squashed cow my wife bought yesterday.
I really can't see why anyone would spend that much of a premium on what appears to be a very nice piece of white goods.

bqf

2,021 posts

148 months

Thursday 12th May
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It looks like, and I'll bet it sounds like, a fridge-freezer. I've got one of them, it was £500, not £77,000 hehe

Wonderman

1,060 posts

172 months

Thursday 12th May
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Having had a look at the configurator they've learned how to charge like a German manufacturer, their "in stock" ones are certainly more than base box ticking. Their configurator appears to be from an Xbox Forca circa 2010, no idea what the colours would look like in the flesh.

At least it's under 5m long and 2m wide at (L/w/h) 4515 mm / 1890 mm / 1580 mm and sensible range, yes not going to set the world on fire but a base engine would surely do most people as a family wagon?


CrippsCorner

2,128 posts

158 months

Thursday 12th May
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Harrypop said:
CrippsCorner said:
I just don't understand why this car needs to exist. Doesn't bring anything new... bland, but expensive. Interior is a weird mix, not sure I like it.
That's wiped out the need for 95% of all new cars then.
Let me rephrase that to the whole brand rather than this specific car. I just don't see why anyone would choose this over its well established rivals. If a company doesn't bring anything new, then why bring it at all?

Tesla was new, and it bought with it new ideas/new concepts.

Candida

15 posts

67 months

Thursday 12th May
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That interior is peak Murder She Wrote

Maccmike8

544 posts

31 months

Thursday 12th May
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I like much of the Genesis models but this looks ste.

Harrypop

2,458 posts

99 months

Thursday 12th May
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CrippsCorner said:
Let me rephrase that to the whole brand rather than this specific car. I just don't see why anyone would choose this over its well established rivals. If a company doesn't bring anything new, then why bring it at all?

Tesla was new, and it bought with it new ideas/new concepts.
I am really failing to see any logic in what you are saying now. If you have no desire for this particular car that's fine but to question it's existence is a bit weird really.

Your premise appears to be that unless a company brings something entirely new to the table they just shouldn't bother at all? If that concept had any relevance in the real world supermarkets would only have two very small isles with no comparative items in them. But that's not the case and I can walk in and buy a multitude of what is the roughtly the same thing but at differing price points and with varying associated quality - be that perceived or creditable.

Are you just of the opinion that Tesla should be the only mass ev manufacturer as anybody that follows will not have brought anything new??

Two growth markets are SUV's and EV's so you probably need to ask yourself why a manufacturer wouldn't attempt to offer an EV SUV rather than ponder why they would.

Spiros115

177 posts

27 months

Thursday 12th May
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Would love to see the design brief:

“So for exterior imagine a Suzuki swift being eaten by a storm trooper, interior wise we’re going for somewhere between knock off Bentley and Uber chintzy fiat 500”

Oh and it’s £76k, what the actual….