RE: 2022 Genesis GV60 | PH Review
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For an ev SUV that looks ok, has a hint of Macan in the shape and the price is quite fair for something with that level of performance and finish but a tad optimistic for a brand with little consumer awareness in the UK. £74k for a poverty spec Taycan - how many folk actually have the will power to not tick the options boxes whilst being buttered up by the sales peeps @ an OPC? I bet very few orders are for completely options free Porsche cars. Genesis is an interesting alternative but will it sell well here?
Lovely to see an interior that is not like a sooty cave at midnight in the middle of an arctic winter.
The problem with this kind of branding (Genesis as the top dog over Hyundai / Kia) is that the lesser brand(s) have to be deliberately held back so that the luxo brand is perceivably better. I feel Lexus / Toyota were in that trap several years ago, but are finding a way out.
The problem with this kind of branding (Genesis as the top dog over Hyundai / Kia) is that the lesser brand(s) have to be deliberately held back so that the luxo brand is perceivably better. I feel Lexus / Toyota were in that trap several years ago, but are finding a way out.
CrippsCorner said:
I just don't understand why this car needs to exist. Doesn't bring anything new... bland, but expensive. Interior is a weird mix, not sure I like it.
Because Hyundai & Kia are seen as "value" brands. Same reason Toyota has Lexus.I like the car, but for the same money I could get a Tesla Model Y
aestivator said:
What a load of sales-y b
ks from our engineer friend here.
Ask why people are nostalgic for ICE powertrains, then release £77k turd that looks like a fridge and drives like one too.
I'm not anti-EV, but to say "everything is better on them" is ridiculous. Get back to me when I can drive my EV 500 miles on a charge and then completely refill it in under 5 minutes...
I had to laugh as well at the 'opportunity to be different' spiel then a car that has hints of Porsche design to me and seeming no attempt to emphasise any real advantage at all from the change in powertrain that I could ascertain in terms of design. As adventurous as a bar of soap. ks from our engineer friend here.Ask why people are nostalgic for ICE powertrains, then release £77k turd that looks like a fridge and drives like one too.
I'm not anti-EV, but to say "everything is better on them" is ridiculous. Get back to me when I can drive my EV 500 miles on a charge and then completely refill it in under 5 minutes...
I mean, of course it's sales puff, he wouldn't have much of a career in future if he was sat in front of the media and slagged off the product.
Doesn't mean he's wrong about ICE's not being a good solution, they were the best we had, but now they're done in the mass market. As economies of scale ramp up the ICE will become a niche option.
I love a great ICE engine, but I certainly don't care if the 2.0 turbo bore-boxes and their ilk are replaced with much more efficient electric motors.
Doesn't mean he's wrong about ICE's not being a good solution, they were the best we had, but now they're done in the mass market. As economies of scale ramp up the ICE will become a niche option.
I love a great ICE engine, but I certainly don't care if the 2.0 turbo bore-boxes and their ilk are replaced with much more efficient electric motors.
ajap1979 said:
Really don't like the way they've incorporated those screens for the wing mirror cameras.
Definitely the least successful part for me but then I've yet to see an example where they do look good to be honest. Maybe it's just the lack of familiarity that makes them look so out of place at this time.
Having had a look at the configurator they've learned how to charge like a German manufacturer, their "in stock" ones are certainly more than base box ticking. Their configurator appears to be from an Xbox Forca circa 2010, no idea what the colours would look like in the flesh.
At least it's under 5m long and 2m wide at (L/w/h) 4515 mm / 1890 mm / 1580 mm and sensible range, yes not going to set the world on fire but a base engine would surely do most people as a family wagon?
At least it's under 5m long and 2m wide at (L/w/h) 4515 mm / 1890 mm / 1580 mm and sensible range, yes not going to set the world on fire but a base engine would surely do most people as a family wagon?
Harrypop said:
CrippsCorner said:
I just don't understand why this car needs to exist. Doesn't bring anything new... bland, but expensive. Interior is a weird mix, not sure I like it.
That's wiped out the need for 95% of all new cars then.Tesla was new, and it bought with it new ideas/new concepts.
CrippsCorner said:
Let me rephrase that to the whole brand rather than this specific car. I just don't see why anyone would choose this over its well established rivals. If a company doesn't bring anything new, then why bring it at all?
Tesla was new, and it bought with it new ideas/new concepts.
I am really failing to see any logic in what you are saying now. If you have no desire for this particular car that's fine but to question it's existence is a bit weird really.Tesla was new, and it bought with it new ideas/new concepts.
Your premise appears to be that unless a company brings something entirely new to the table they just shouldn't bother at all? If that concept had any relevance in the real world supermarkets would only have two very small isles with no comparative items in them. But that's not the case and I can walk in and buy a multitude of what is the roughtly the same thing but at differing price points and with varying associated quality - be that perceived or creditable.
Are you just of the opinion that Tesla should be the only mass ev manufacturer as anybody that follows will not have brought anything new??
Two growth markets are SUV's and EV's so you probably need to ask yourself why a manufacturer wouldn't attempt to offer an EV SUV rather than ponder why they would.
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