Rare editions of normal hatchbacks

Rare editions of normal hatchbacks

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OneTwo

374 posts

214 months

Before the pedants revolt, this IS a hatch (and sporty/rare)

“ Reportedly the sole survivor of just three Cooper S cars converted to hatchback specification and the only one to feature a steel rather than GRP tailgate, the re-badged Mini's first private keeper was the Rt Hon Ernest Marples MP who took delivery on August 22nd 1968. Notable for opening the M1 motorway and introducing more rigorous MOT tests plus the use of breathalysers, the former Minister for Transport is understood to have specifically wanted a hatchback to accommodate his golf clubs and / or the produce of his own vineyard! Having tried to place an order with John Cooper at the Racing Car Show, Lord Marples (as he became) was referred to the Chairman of BMC, George Harriman. As well as a bespoke folding rear bench seat, reversed door handles and special window frames, the unique Mini featured a padded headlining and dash rails not to mention non-standard front indicators and side repeater lights. However, it is not known whether these additions were made at the behest of its safety conscious first owner or while the car was resident in the Experimental Department. Part-exchanged by Lord Marples during 1974 for a Renault 5 “






Matt Cup

2,545 posts

84 months

pocketspring said:
Hammer67 said:
Heaveho said:
Section 8 said:
I had one of these at the same time as I owned one of the 4 Corolla GTIs I had.

Prior to that particular Sunny, there was a Sunny 1.8 Twincam circa 1989 / 90, much boxier looking thing and rare even then. We had one traded in, seem to remember it went well enough.

Am I right in thinking that Citroen did a ZX Volcane as well as a Saxo VTR and VTS? And the C2.

There's another 3 door model Citroen did a high performance derivative of around the same time, I'm away for a google to remember the name!

Ok, back in the room, the Xsara! How could I forget!

Edited by Heaveho on Friday 29th July 19:40


Sunny 1.8ZX N13 model. Fitted with CA18DE engine 16v twink. I had one for a while and also the B12 ZX Coupe. 127bhp IIRC.
The CA18DE engine also saw service in the S13 200SX in RWD with a turbo and also the FWD Bluebird ZX.
The Sunny GTi N14 had the SR20DE as fitted to Primera GT, Almera GTi etc.
The GTI-R Sunny was 4wd and Turbo. Only 85 UK versions were sold.
There was also the Nissan Sunny ZX turbo as well. Used to walk past one in my local village and had quite a bodykit on it. Looked very pumped up.
The Nissan VZR N1 deserves a mention too as 123.4bhp per litre from its little 1.6 four banger isn’t to be sniffed at.



http://carbore.co.uk/nissan/pulsar/nissan-pulsar-v...

pocketspring

Original Poster:

87 posts

1 month

Matt Cup said:
pocketspring said:
Hammer67 said:
Heaveho said:
Section 8 said:
I had one of these at the same time as I owned one of the 4 Corolla GTIs I had.

Prior to that particular Sunny, there was a Sunny 1.8 Twincam circa 1989 / 90, much boxier looking thing and rare even then. We had one traded in, seem to remember it went well enough.

Am I right in thinking that Citroen did a ZX Volcane as well as a Saxo VTR and VTS? And the C2.

There's another 3 door model Citroen did a high performance derivative of around the same time, I'm away for a google to remember the name!

Ok, back in the room, the Xsara! How could I forget!

Edited by Heaveho on Friday 29th July 19:40


Sunny 1.8ZX N13 model. Fitted with CA18DE engine 16v twink. I had one for a while and also the B12 ZX Coupe. 127bhp IIRC.
The CA18DE engine also saw service in the S13 200SX in RWD with a turbo and also the FWD Bluebird ZX.
The Sunny GTi N14 had the SR20DE as fitted to Primera GT, Almera GTi etc.
The GTI-R Sunny was 4wd and Turbo. Only 85 UK versions were sold.
There was also the Nissan Sunny ZX turbo as well. Used to walk past one in my local village and had quite a bodykit on it. Looked very pumped up.
The Nissan VZR N1 deserves a mention too as 123.4bhp per litre from its little 1.6 four banger isn’t to be sniffed at.



http://carbore.co.uk/nissan/pulsar/nissan-pulsar-v...
That was an interesting read!

The spinner of plates

16,456 posts

180 months

Jakg said:
By the same token, Proton Satria GTI.



Headlamps look familiar...
Handling by Lotus!
Pretty sure it even had a badge on it declaring this fact.

ETA
https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/modern-classics...

David87

6,206 posts

192 months

Saturday
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The Japan-only Toyota GR Yaris RS. No, this is not as good as the name suggests.

Basically like the normal one, but with the 4wd system and decent engine removed. biggrin FWD and 118bhp.


Om

1,088 posts

58 months

Saturday
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pocketspring said:
Off you pop then, no one forcing you to be here. Just because no one replied to your other trolling post.
Trolling? Really?

Matt Cup

2,545 posts

84 months

Saturday
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Earthdweller said:
biggbn said:
Pieman68 said:
blackscooby said:
Somewhat off piste... but
The Renault 25 V6 Turbo



And the slightly more exciting Renault 21 Turbo



(Random googled images)
Both saloons rather than hatchbacks?
25 was a hatch
So was the 21 (as well as saloon)

And the Renault Safrane Bi-Turbo, which dare I say it is a bit of a sleeper too.



https://www.adrianflux.co.uk/influx/cars/renault-s...

pocketspring

Original Poster:

87 posts

1 month

Saturday
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David87 said:
The Japan-only Toyota GR Yaris RS. No, this is not as good as the name suggests.

Basically like the normal one, but with the 4wd system and decent engine removed. biggrin FWD and 118bhp.

Could be a right little hoot on some twisty back roads!

pocketspring

Original Poster:

87 posts

1 month

Saturday
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OneTwo said:
Before the pedants revolt, this IS a hatch (and sporty/rare)

“ Reportedly the sole survivor of just three Cooper S cars converted to hatchback specification and the only one to feature a steel rather than GRP tailgate, the re-badged Mini's first private keeper was the Rt Hon Ernest Marples MP who took delivery on August 22nd 1968. Notable for opening the M1 motorway and introducing more rigorous MOT tests plus the use of breathalysers, the former Minister for Transport is understood to have specifically wanted a hatchback to accommodate his golf clubs and / or the produce of his own vineyard! Having tried to place an order with John Cooper at the Racing Car Show, Lord Marples (as he became) was referred to the Chairman of BMC, George Harriman. As well as a bespoke folding rear bench seat, reversed door handles and special window frames, the unique Mini featured a padded headlining and dash rails not to mention non-standard front indicators and side repeater lights. However, it is not known whether these additions were made at the behest of its safety conscious first owner or while the car was resident in the Experimental Department. Part-exchanged by Lord Marples during 1974 for a Renault 5 “





Probably worth a few quid then.

wpa1975

3,985 posts

94 months

Saturday
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Have we had the Tickford Metro yet.


Silvanus

650 posts

3 months

Saturday
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wpa1975 said:
Have we had the Tickford Metro yet.

Totally forgot about those!

pocketspring

Original Poster:

87 posts

1 month

Saturday
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Silvanus said:
wpa1975 said:
Have we had the Tickford Metro yet.

Totally forgot about those!
Front end looks very Ren5.

Om

1,088 posts

58 months

Saturday
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pocketspring said:
Om said:
pocketspring said:
Off you pop then, no one forcing you to be here. Just because no one replied to your other trolling post.
Trolling? Really?
You're boring us. When you go to court, make sure you take your teddy to show the judge where your uncle touched you in the potting shed....
To explain, my post was meant to highlight (humour was the intention) that the thread seemed to have gone away from your original request for rare performance versions of hatches toward some fairly common hot hatches from the 80s/90s (including some saloons and convertibles) that were only rare due to the passage of time, which seemed a shame as there were quite a few earlier posts that highlighted some novel and rare cars.

My second comment about the 'sorry thread' was in reference to the state the thread had become not the original purpose of the the thread itself - I could probably have worded that better...

It certainly wasn't my intention to offend.

Anyway, that is enough off-topic conversation - back to the hatches!

biggbn

14,248 posts

200 months

Saturday
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Simca 1100ti. 'Hot hatch' genesis? Another oddity, whilst not a rare version of a hatch, the Honda accord aerodeck was a rare hatch made out of a saloon.

Mr Spoon

1,977 posts

18 months

Saturday
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pocketspring said:
David87 said:
The Japan-only Toyota GR Yaris RS. No, this is not as good as the name suggests.

Basically like the normal one, but with the 4wd system and decent engine removed. biggrin FWD and 118bhp.

Could be a right little hoot on some twisty back roads!
Imagine all the "I beat a Yaris gr" comments....

pocketspring

Original Poster:

87 posts

1 month

Saturday
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biggbn said:
Simca 1100ti. 'Hot hatch' genesis? Another oddity, whilst not a rare version of a hatch, the Honda accord aerodeck was a rare hatch made out of a saloon.
The Square, boxy thing with pop up headlights?

Fastdruid

7,746 posts

132 months

Saturday
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Om said:
pocketspring said:
Om said:
pocketspring said:
Off you pop then, no one forcing you to be here. Just because no one replied to your other trolling post.
Trolling? Really?
You're boring us. When you go to court, make sure you take your teddy to show the judge where your uncle touched you in the potting shed....
To explain, my post was meant to highlight (humour was the intention) that the thread seemed to have gone away from your original request for rare performance versions of hatches toward some fairly common hot hatches from the 80s/90s (including some saloons and convertibles) that were only rare due to the passage of time, which seemed a shame as there were quite a few earlier posts that highlighted some novel and rare cars.

My second comment about the 'sorry thread' was in reference to the state the thread had become not the original purpose of the the thread itself - I could probably have worded that better...

It certainly wasn't my intention to offend.

Anyway, that is enough off-topic conversation - back to the hatches!
Problem is that no one reads the OP and replies to the title... which doesn't mention performance anywhere in it.

samoht

3,578 posts

126 months

Saturday
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pocketspring said:
David87 said:
The Japan-only Toyota GR Yaris RS. No, this is not as good as the name suggests.

Basically like the normal one, but with the 4wd system and decent engine removed. biggrin FWD and 118bhp.

Could be a right little hoot on some twisty back roads!
I had one of these as a rental ;-)
I think the CVT-based auto damps the fun a bit, but yeah there is some enjoyment to be had on those really narrow twisty Japanese mountain roads, where power isn't relevant and you can lean on the chassis a bit.

But yeah, while I can see Toyota's desire to defray the costs of the unique bodyshell, even if FF I think a bit more power would've been in order.

biggbn

14,248 posts

200 months

Saturday
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pocketspring said:
biggbn said:
Simca 1100ti. 'Hot hatch' genesis? Another oddity, whilst not a rare version of a hatch, the Honda accord aerodeck was a rare hatch made out of a saloon.
The Square, boxy thing with pop up headlights?
No man, actual hatchback , no pop ups....

TurboFan

119 posts

105 months

Yesterday (16:19)
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DrBrule said:
Honda Civic GTI - Mk3 I think - mid 80s.

My mum had one, in fact the photo here that Google threw up is her exact one as I recognise the reg, or what you can see of it. The owner has put new alloys on and removed the GTI sticker than ran across the bottom of the doors.

She sold it 15+ years ago now to a guy in Kent. Mechanically it was okay but the rust lurking underneath was terrible. He knew they were rare and put the hours in sorting it out.

Good shout!
Honda Civic GT. 1.5 litre 12 valve with fuel injection, which was quite rare for 1985.

EW model code if anyone is interested.

I had one of these too, also around 15 years ago. Sadly the rust got the better of it.

Great little car. Mine was a 1985(B reg) in red on mini lite style wheels. Handled brilliantly with it torsion bar front suspension.

Mine was the same as the pic below bar the wheels.






Edited by TurboFan on Sunday 7th August 16:23