cyclists at night

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oldagepensioner

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40 posts

8 months

Saturday 30th July
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I would like to make it clear that i am not anti cyclist.If that is your chosen mode of transport then good luck to you(and with some of the drivers out there i think you will need it).I do wish however that they would use a bit of common sense like using cycle paths when provided and i am not talking about the gutters at the edge of the road marked out with a single white line where all the crap gets thrown by other road users to puncture their tyres but the proper cycle paths even if they are shared with pedestrians.My other gripe is their habit of riding at night without lights.Over the past week i have been driving at night and 4 times i came across cyclists at night without lights 2 of whom i nearly ran over because they were unseen until the last moment.What made it worse was that they made my other pet hate the guy on the e,scooter look sensible because he at least had lights.

GranpaB

1,023 posts

16 months

Saturday 30th July
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oldagepensioner said:
I would like to make it clear that i am not anti cyclist.If that is your chosen mode of transport then good luck to you(and with some of the drivers out there i think you will need it).I do wish however that they would use a bit of common sense like using cycle paths when provided and i am not talking about the gutters at the edge of the road marked out with a single white line where all the crap gets thrown by other road users to puncture their tyres but the proper cycle paths even if they are shared with pedestrians.My other gripe is their habit of riding at night without lights.Over the past week i have been driving at night and 4 times i came across cyclists at night without lights 2 of whom i nearly ran over because they were unseen until the last moment.What made it worse was that they made my other pet hate the guy on the e,scooter look sensible because he at least had lights.
tongue outopcorn:

Red9zero

4,120 posts

37 months

Saturday 30th July
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GranpaB said:
tongue outopcorn:
Not just me that couldn't find the popcorn smilie then laugh

Richard-D

603 posts

44 months

Saturday 30th July
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oldagepensioner said:
I would like to make it clear that i am not anti cyclist.
laugh How every 'anti-cyclist' thread starts.

MitchT

14,487 posts

189 months

Saturday 30th July
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Red9zero said:
GranpaB said:
tongue outopcorn:
Not just me that couldn't find the popcorn smilie then laugh
HTH!







ScotHill

1,963 posts

89 months

Saturday 30th July
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I would also request that any driver who has any one of a brake light, rear light, DRL or headlight not working does not drive after dusk. Thank you.

SkodaIan

443 posts

65 months

Saturday 30th July
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I have the opposite problem with cyclists at night. Usually it's the "Mamil" types who ride with a front light which is about 10 times the intensity of the sun and don't dip it for oncoming traffic. If you're really lucky they have two - one on the bike and another one on their helmet!!

It's usually pretty easy to spot a cyclist with no lights, particularly within areas with street lights. Although annoying that they are breaking the rules, a bike with the minimum legal lighting really isn't that much more visible - a hi-vis jacket with reflective strips is far more effective.

oldagepensioner

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40 posts

8 months

Saturday 30th July
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Richard-D said:
oldagepensioner said:
I would like to make it clear that i am not anti cyclist.
laugh How every 'anti-cyclist' thread starts.
Like i said not anti cyclist at all and used to ride one myself until i lent it to my son and it was run over in spite of being locked to bike rack while he was at work but the 2 cyclists that nearly got run over were wearing dark coloured clothes on a dark coloured bike on a poorly lit road and as stated had no lights.I also forgot to mention in my first post the kids who insist on doing wheelies in the middle of or even the wrong side of the road.Mamils i don,t have problem with because at least the lycra tends to be bright colours and they do tend to be fairly sensible.

S100HP

11,934 posts

147 months

Saturday 30th July
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Why do people start threads like this and what can they possibly hope to achieve? They never end well, for either side.

Master Bean

2,590 posts

100 months

Saturday 30th July
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BAN CYCLISTS.

oldagepensioner

Original Poster:

40 posts

8 months

Saturday 30th July
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ScotHill said:
I would also request that any driver who has any one of a brake light, rear light, DRL or headlight not working does not drive after dusk. Thank you.
While i sort of agree with this at least with a car the lights normally come in pairs so you can at least see there is something there.The problem with cyclists is that the lights tend to be singular when fitted at all so the cyclist becomes all but invisible.Like isaid all i ask is that cyclists make themselves more visible at night which is why i also agree with the high vis idea.As for why i started this thread i had the time and those two cyclists were on my mind.

numtumfutunch

4,169 posts

118 months

Saturday 30th July
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Just ban the lot of them for safety sake






Roads would be a much better place for bikes and pedestrians without cars and the usual muppets who post on threads like this


VSKeith

394 posts

27 months

Saturday 30th July
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Cyclist here.

I've noticed more and more out at night without lights in the last year and was wondering if it was just me and confirmation bias.

captain.scarlet

661 posts

14 months

Saturday 30th July
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ScotHill said:
I would also request that any driver who has any one of a brake light, rear light, DRL or headlight not working does not drive after dusk. Thank you.
Make that: those with DRLs who forget to switch their actual headlights on at night, even worse when they actually drive something that probably has automatic headlights.

Whats in a name

122 posts

76 months

Saturday 30th July
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The trouble with the cycle lanes on pavements is that they often go past drives where the pavement dips down and you have to watch out for cars emerging, every time you get to a side road you have to stop and then cross where as if you are on the main carriageway you have right of way and finally pedestrians will often walk in the cycle lane so you are constantly slowing to ensure you pass them safely.

In relation to lights everyone should have them fitted and working you can by them for a couple of pounds on Amazon so there is really no excuse.

VSKeith

394 posts

27 months

Saturday 30th July
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Whats in a name said:
The trouble with the cycle lanes on pavements is that they often go past drives where the pavement dips down and you have to watch out for cars emerging, every time you get to a side road you have to stop and then cross where as if you are on the main carriageway you have right of way and finally pedestrians will often walk in the cycle lane so you are constantly slowing to ensure you pass them safely.

In relation to lights everyone should have them fitted and working you can by them for a couple of pounds on Amazon so there is really no excuse.
Yep, shared use 'cycle lanes' are wider pavements. Utterly useless for cycling on so don't shout at cyclists riding next to them on the road.

GranpaB

1,023 posts

16 months

Saturday 30th July
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Red9zero said:
GranpaB said:
tongue outopcorn:
Not just me that couldn't find the popcorn smilie then laugh
hehe

gazza285

8,610 posts

188 months

Sunday 31st July
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VSKeith said:
Cyclist here.

I've noticed more and more out at night without lights in the last year and was wondering if it was just me and confirmation bias.
They obviously don't need lights if you've noticed them.

I must have past over a hundred cars on the road tonight, without any lights on at all...

captain.scarlet

661 posts

14 months

Sunday 31st July
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gazza285 said:
VSKeith said:
Cyclist here.

I've noticed more and more out at night without lights in the last year and was wondering if it was just me and confirmation bias.
They obviously don't need lights if you've noticed them.

I must have past over a hundred cars on the road tonight, without any lights on at all...
I've noticed the same and as mentioned on my post above, it is particularly bad with DRLs, and worse if the car has automatic headlights: surely you'd just leave the light switch in auto mode.

However, without wishing to justify it or offer any excuse, the increasing prevalence of quote white LED street lighting does now mean that the roads are very well-illuminated, almost floodlight effect in places? So those more absent-minded drivers are going to be more easily tricked into forgetting to switch their headlights on.

That said, being confused by the street lighting or not remembering or not checking to ensure your headlights are on is reckless and careless driving IMO.

Another reason to get a dash cam in this day and age and have evidence of this type of idiocy of the other driver if ever it became necessary.

Draxindustries1

388 posts

3 months

Sunday 31st July
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There's a dedicated very well paved newish cycle track which runs from Wroxham (,Norfolk) to Horning , around 5 miles. Its a B road and very twisty. Its used at weekends by the tour de France leftovers who seem to refuse the cycle track but use the pot holed road instead.
The amount of cyclists I have to shout at out the n/s window to use the firkin cycle track is unreal...