RE: 2022 Nissan Ariya | PH Review
Discussion
cerb4.5lee said:
Why are bloody electric cars so expensive?! This model isn't even fast.
Just to add some perspective, what new ICE SUV offering similar size, practicality, equipment and performance would you compare it to? I had thought the new Kia Sportage, it’s a very similar size, but you can spend low-40s and still not achieve the same performance the base Ariya has. Base Touareg offers similar performance, but is a bit bigger and £8k more with less standard kit. Just interested to know what the barometer for value is?
ajap1979 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Why are bloody electric cars so expensive?! This model isn't even fast.
Just to add some perspective, what new ICE SUV offering similar size, practicality, equipment and performance would you compare it to? I had thought the new Kia Sportage, it’s a very similar size, but you can spend low-40s and still not achieve the same performance the base Ariya has. Base Touareg offers similar performance, but is a bit bigger and £8k more with less standard kit. Just interested to know what the barometer for value is?
Every EV I ever look at does seem very expensive to me though(probably not helped because in my head I think that they are all crap!
). In my head...you can still buy a Golf GTi for £20k brand new!
Generally I do like to get relatively decent performance from a car if I'm paying a few quid for it though. The idea that you can pay £50k for an electric car...and it will still be slow is something that I really struggle to get my head around.
cerb4.5lee said:
ajap1979 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Why are bloody electric cars so expensive?! This model isn't even fast.
Just to add some perspective, what new ICE SUV offering similar size, practicality, equipment and performance would you compare it to? I had thought the new Kia Sportage, it’s a very similar size, but you can spend low-40s and still not achieve the same performance the base Ariya has. Base Touareg offers similar performance, but is a bit bigger and £8k more with less standard kit. Just interested to know what the barometer for value is?
Every EV I ever look at does seem very expensive to me though(probably not helped because in my head I think that they are all crap!
). In my head...you can still buy a Golf GTi for £20k brand new!
Generally I do like to get relatively decent performance from a car if I'm paying a few quid for it though. The idea that you can pay £50k for an electric car...and it will still be slow is something that I really struggle to get my head around.
cerb4.5lee said:
Generally I do like to get relatively decent performance from a car if I'm paying a few quid for it though. The idea that you can pay £50k for an electric car...and it will still be slow is something that I really struggle to get my head around.
I also think that we should see the midrange acceleration reported more often, because that’s where EVs really shine, and it matters much more in everyday driving. ajap1979 said:
I also think that we should see the midrange acceleration reported more often, because that’s where EVs really shine, and it matters much more in everyday driving.
I definitely would like that part about them for sure. I generally like the ICE cars that I've had to feel torquey, and that is certainly the trump card with an electric car. I suppose if you’re currently in a Nissan kumquat this is an easy move over….
Shows how bonkers pricing has become my 520d touring with a few options was £45kish 4 years ago…. Still
Different league interior to this and just generally a much better place to be.
Think I’ll just run it until it dies or diesel is £8 a litre.
Shows how bonkers pricing has become my 520d touring with a few options was £45kish 4 years ago…. Still
Different league interior to this and just generally a much better place to be.
Think I’ll just run it until it dies or diesel is £8 a litre.
biggbn said:
Wow, that looks different, good to see something unique in this segment...oh, wait, no.....
This is exactly it! The Tesla Model S is what, 10 years old? Where are all of the other sleek saloons? Where are the coupés, convertibles and sports cars? We’re repeatedly told that electric powertrains give designers and engineers more freedom with regards to packaging, yet almost every EV we see is a bloated, one-box snoozefest.
Clivey said:
This is exactly it! The Tesla Model S is what, 10 years old? Where are all of the other sleek saloons? Where are the coupés, convertibles and sports cars? We’re repeatedly told that electric powertrains give designers and engineers more freedom with regards to packaging, yet almost every EV we see is a bloated, one-box snoozefest.
cerb4.5lee said:
ajap1979 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Why are bloody electric cars so expensive?! This model isn't even fast.
Just to add some perspective, what new ICE SUV offering similar size, practicality, equipment and performance would you compare it to? I had thought the new Kia Sportage, it’s a very similar size, but you can spend low-40s and still not achieve the same performance the base Ariya has. Base Touareg offers similar performance, but is a bit bigger and £8k more with less standard kit. Just interested to know what the barometer for value is?
Every EV I ever look at does seem very expensive to me though(probably not helped because in my head I think that they are all crap!
). In my head...you can still buy a Golf GTi for £20k brand new!
Generally I do like to get relatively decent performance from a car if I'm paying a few quid for it though. The idea that you can pay £50k for an electric car...and it will still be slow is something that I really struggle to get my head around.
I bet a lot of the performance capabilities of most EVs don’t get used as a lot are bought by non enthusiasts and currently a lot of it is about range, and hoofing it everywhere kills it.
We would all aspire to the spiciest Tesla as an EV if we could choose but nobody really needs anything that ridiculously quick.
7.5 to sixty used to be decent hot hatch territory.
J4CKO said:
cerb4.5lee said:
ajap1979 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Why are bloody electric cars so expensive?! This model isn't even fast.
Just to add some perspective, what new ICE SUV offering similar size, practicality, equipment and performance would you compare it to? I had thought the new Kia Sportage, it’s a very similar size, but you can spend low-40s and still not achieve the same performance the base Ariya has. Base Touareg offers similar performance, but is a bit bigger and £8k more with less standard kit. Just interested to know what the barometer for value is?
Every EV I ever look at does seem very expensive to me though(probably not helped because in my head I think that they are all crap!
). In my head...you can still buy a Golf GTi for £20k brand new!
Generally I do like to get relatively decent performance from a car if I'm paying a few quid for it though. The idea that you can pay £50k for an electric car...and it will still be slow is something that I really struggle to get my head around.
I bet a lot of the performance capabilities of most EVs don’t get used as a lot are bought by non enthusiasts and currently a lot of it is about range, and hoofing it everywhere kills it.
We would all aspire to the spiciest Tesla as an EV if we could choose but nobody really needs anything that ridiculously quick.
7.5 to sixty used to be decent hot hatch territory.
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