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Sat here waiting for my new car to be delivered (F-Pace SVR). Or rather, initially waiting for the delivery driver to call to say he is an hour away.
I'm like a kid at Christmas, pretending to work, but actually looking at reviews and comments on this and other sites/forums.
This is the first SUV/4x4 I’ve owned, but not the first I’ve driven. I’m a big fan of the driving position and the drive of an SUV as much as the extra benefit the greater loadspace begets, but on this and other forums, the anti-SUV sentiment is prominent, especially to those who can’t demonstrate a specific and unequivocal need for such a car. Despite the car’s 5l supercharged V8, 542bhp and British credentials, am I set for a barrage of hatred and criticism?
I'm like a kid at Christmas, pretending to work, but actually looking at reviews and comments on this and other sites/forums.
This is the first SUV/4x4 I’ve owned, but not the first I’ve driven. I’m a big fan of the driving position and the drive of an SUV as much as the extra benefit the greater loadspace begets, but on this and other forums, the anti-SUV sentiment is prominent, especially to those who can’t demonstrate a specific and unequivocal need for such a car. Despite the car’s 5l supercharged V8, 542bhp and British credentials, am I set for a barrage of hatred and criticism?
Just bought my first one - a 2011 XC90 D5
I really quite like it. It's a very soothing thing to drive. You quickly realise you're never racing anyone in it, and you're never going to drive it with anything approaching enthusiasm, so it calms you down as soon as you get in it.
I even like the high seating position
I really quite like it. It's a very soothing thing to drive. You quickly realise you're never racing anyone in it, and you're never going to drive it with anything approaching enthusiasm, so it calms you down as soon as you get in it.
I even like the high seating position
Julian Scott said:
Sat here waiting for my new car to be delivered (F-Pace SVR). Or rather, initially waiting for the delivery driver to call to say he is an hour away.
I'm like a kid at Christmas, pretending to work, but actually looking at reviews and comments on this and other sites/forums.
This is the first SUV/4x4 I’ve owned, but not the first I’ve driven. I’m a big fan of the driving position and the drive of an SUV as much as the extra benefit the greater loadspace begets, but on this and other forums, the anti-SUV sentiment is prominent, especially to those who can’t demonstrate a specific and unequivocal need for such a car. Despite the car’s 5l supercharged V8, 542bhp and British credentials, am I set for a barrage of hatred and criticism?
Which bit do you not need? For some reason not needing the SUV/4x4 part attracts more criticism than the not needing the 542bhp part. I'm like a kid at Christmas, pretending to work, but actually looking at reviews and comments on this and other sites/forums.
This is the first SUV/4x4 I’ve owned, but not the first I’ve driven. I’m a big fan of the driving position and the drive of an SUV as much as the extra benefit the greater loadspace begets, but on this and other forums, the anti-SUV sentiment is prominent, especially to those who can’t demonstrate a specific and unequivocal need for such a car. Despite the car’s 5l supercharged V8, 542bhp and British credentials, am I set for a barrage of hatred and criticism?
Good choice BTW, the hatred is mostly jealousy.
vikingaero said:
Do you live anywhere where the Tyre Extinguishers have form for operating?
Are these those loons that go around slashing SUV tyres? Mostly in London. Good luck OP. It’s not for me I don’t need irrational hate for my car. You see it on the school run we’re lucky enough to walk to school but you see these massive SUVs parking on the pavement and parents giving them grief all the time.
LimaDelta said:
Good choice BTW, the hatred is mostly jealousy.
Not necessarily.SUVs tend to be worse-handling, less economical, pointlessly massive examples of otherwise good cars.
As a good example, the OP's incoming car - the F-pace SVR is a very cool machine, but it'd be even cooler if they just made an estate with the same dimensions internally etc.
The worst part about SUVs isn't the "premium" end, but the move to make every new car a crossover/4x4/SUV or whatever they should be called... Build a car that's objectively worse to follow fashion and keeping-up-with-the-Joneses. See also, massive alloys and stiff suspension.
Brett748 said:
I like SUVs but I've never owned one. I'm put off by how disproportionately expensive they are compared to a saloon or estate, for example a 2017 540i Estate is about £30k and the equivalent X5 early £40s.
Maybe, not sure what 500bhp+ V8 saloons/estates are any cheaper?Krikkit said:
LimaDelta said:
Good choice BTW, the hatred is mostly jealousy.
Not necessarily.SUVs tend to be worse-handling, less economical, pointlessly massive examples of otherwise good cars.
As a good example, the OP's incoming car - the F-pace SVR is a very cool machine, but it'd be even cooler if they just made an estate with the same dimensions internally etc.
The worst part about SUVs isn't the "premium" end, but the move to make every new car a crossover/4x4/SUV or whatever they should be called... Build a car that's objectively worse to follow fashion and keeping-up-with-the-Joneses. See also, massive alloys and stiff suspension.
Cool Car OP
Limpet said:
Just bought my first one - a 2011 XC90 D5
I really quite like it. It's a very soothing thing to drive. You quickly realise you're never racing anyone in it, and you're never going to drive it with anything approaching enthusiasm, so it calms you down as soon as you get in it.
I even like the high seating position
Not sure the supercharged V8 will create the same calmness I really quite like it. It's a very soothing thing to drive. You quickly realise you're never racing anyone in it, and you're never going to drive it with anything approaching enthusiasm, so it calms you down as soon as you get in it.
I even like the high seating position
LimaDelta said:
Which bit do you not need? For some reason not needing the SUV/4x4 part attracts more criticism than the not needing the 542bhp part.
Good choice BTW, the hatred is mostly jealousy.
Kind of all of it really, but then the same with every car I've owned.Good choice BTW, the hatred is mostly jealousy.
The 542bhp is definitely 'need' though
Julian Scott said:
Tyre Extinguishers?
This bunch - https://www.tyreextinguishers.com/Cause all sorts of chaos in Bristol.... https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/ty...
ktards with a penchant for criminal damage…Krikkit said:
LimaDelta said:
Good choice BTW, the hatred is mostly jealousy.
Not necessarily.SUVs tend to be worse-handling, less economical, pointlessly massive examples of otherwise good cars.
As a good example, the OP's incoming car - the F-pace SVR is a very cool machine, but it'd be even cooler if they just made an estate with the same dimensions internally etc.
The worst part about SUVs isn't the "premium" end, but the move to make every new car a crossover/4x4/SUV or whatever they should be called... Build a car that's objectively worse to follow fashion and keeping-up-with-the-Joneses. See also, massive alloys and stiff suspension.
Not sure the 'pointlessly massive' fits with the 'objectivity' either?
jimKRFC said:
Julian Scott said:
Tyre Extinguishers?
This bunch - https://www.tyreextinguishers.com/Cause all sorts of chaos in Bristol.... https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/ty...
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