RE: 2023 BMW 3.0 CSL revealed

RE: 2023 BMW 3.0 CSL revealed

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Limpet

5,724 posts

145 months

Thursday 24th November
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magic Monkey Dust said:

I really like this.
Should be available on the range listing at this late stage in ICE.Needs an alloy strip betwwen rear lights and a smaller grill.
i redesigned it on my phone using a finger in 30 seconds and in a taste comparison i reckon I'd beat BMW's in house team.
My 30 second butchery was more i8 inspired. Wider, shallower kidney grille.



Nimerino

273 posts

97 months

Thursday 24th November
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BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
Might look nicer without all the decals. Strange they went to all that engineering expense and then only decided to make 50 when I am sure they could have sold more....
It’s an M4 CSL with lower boost pressure, a higher redline and some carbon body panels, with their pre-existing manual thrown in. I imagine the expense was negligible and that this is a money-printing exercise.

magic Monkey Dust

189 posts

20 months

Thursday 24th November
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Limpet said:
My 30 second butchery was more i8 inspired. Wider, shallower kidney grille.

ooo I'd deffo buy yours, nice update. Can you wipe about 500 kg's of its weight and make it a CSL?.

irishsteve

23 posts

95 months

Thursday 24th November
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Storing all 50 in secure underground basements, away from prying eyes, is probably for the best.

ingenieur

2,143 posts

165 months

Thursday 24th November
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magic Monkey Dust said:

I really like this.
Should be available on the range listing at this late stage in ICE.Needs an alloy strip betwwen rear lights and a smaller grill.
i redesigned it on my phone using a finger in 30 seconds and in a taste comparison i reckon I'd beat BMW's in house team.
I felt yours was missing something...



Edited by ingenieur on Thursday 24th November 15:23

dzernski

114 posts

78 months

Thursday 24th November
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I don't think the wing is the biggest styling cue to the original. The biggest cue is the rocket bunny style wheel arches on the rear making it look like it has a wider track. Then there's the grille pointing outwards rather than inwards (something retained by the originals spiritual successor, the original 6 series), which I rather like (as opposed to the normal grille setup). That being said, in the whole this doesn't look good. It'd look better without the decals, but this is largely irrelevant as I'm never going to see one in the wild.

Om

1,199 posts

62 months

Thursday 24th November
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irishsteve said:
Storing all 50 in secure underground basements, away from prying eyes, is probably for the best.
Indeed, it isn't often you are thankful they will all be bought by 'collectors' and stored in heated garages never to see the light of day!

MDifficult

1,571 posts

169 months

Thursday 24th November
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Only so much you can do when it's based on the existing M4.

No-matter what evocative stickers you put on it, it still looks like a Ford Mustang with a Libertywalk kit.

They even had to fake a Hoffmeister Kink.

Shame on you BMW, SHAME. laugh

salmanorguk

119 posts

76 months

Thursday 24th November
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Personally think it looks dire - and its mostly due to the voluminous acreage of blandness that is the rear quarter panel, as well as how the CSL bits look stretched (sort of like how a puffer fish looks inflated vs. deflated).

I've read elsewhere it'll be 750,000 EUROS which, even for a limited edition, is a joke. Im pretty sure the GT3RS, Cayman GT4RS, or even (if possible) a basic Veyron would give you better investment returns

cava

132 posts

143 months

Thursday 24th November
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Designed by Leepu

Greenmantle

1,001 posts

92 months

Thursday 24th November
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cava said:
Designed by Leepu
doesnt matter who designed it at 50 units its unobtainable so no point even asking for the price.

LuS1fer

39,730 posts

229 months

Thursday 24th November
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Even the stripes are rubbish.

BVB

986 posts

137 months

Thursday 24th November
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The graphics make it look ridiculous. I'd like to see it without.

620S

331 posts

182 months

Thursday 24th November
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Yep fat kid only a mother would love in a lightweight track suit!


ex-devonpaul

866 posts

121 months

Thursday 24th November
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Darnoc95 said:
I do like that its a manual! But as for the gear Knob!!! That looks like a bigger knob than the guy who will be driving itbiggrin
I doubt that will happen - Their new tagline should be

"BMW - The ultimate collecting machine"

Besides, take the centre spine from the grill and stick a Jab badge on and nobody would be any the wiser.

Jon556

327 posts

10 months

Thursday 24th November
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Such a wasted opportunity, but expected nowadays from BMW design.

Looks like the car Homer Simpson made..

It earns a point for manual box though.

C7 JFW

1,179 posts

203 months

Thursday 24th November
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Does the designer who drafted this own a car with bolt-on arches? Because this, looks rubbish.

We like cars that are well thought out, well-considered and where those blistered/enhanced wheel arches look like they were meant to be there from the start.

50 being produced and 50 to live in air-conditioned garages for the rest of their lives.

Augustus Windsock

2,955 posts

139 months

Thursday 24th November
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Silvanus said:
Pughmacher said:
I’ll stick my neck out and say that the racing Batmobile e9 this is evoking wasn’t a better looking car than the normal road going version; at least in my opinion. Therefore this new one not being exactly a looker isn’t a massive issue to me. Well done BMW for doing something with the snout! Personally there’s a demerit for not making a CSL in numbers which actually make it possible to see one outside of a show or auction floor. I’m sure there are fans who’d have bought and used one if available and not so clearly aimed at air conditioned garages. But it’s a bit beside the point for me as I’d prefer an e46 and can’t afford either. I’d love to see how they were built mind.
Thing is the original looked like it did for a reason, this is styling for stylings sake and a pretty disjointed effort at that. It just isn't a very good piece of car design, I know it will fly off the shelves, but that is down to the badge. I've long been interested in car design (almost went into it as a career), the Koreans and even the Chinese are proving to be better at car design/styling than BMW. Maybe that's because all the good designers working for the German brands went east.
I agree, the 'original' looks so much better and cohesive, the wing of which looked efficient whereas this ones looks contrived. And ugly.
I hate to say it but if I had the money for one of these I'd rather spend it on the splendid original, which looks delicate yet purposeful, with a touch of 'class' that this thing is lacking.

MyV10BarksAndBites

653 posts

33 months

Thursday 24th November
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Need to see this in the flesh… I will probably love it then.

magic Monkey Dust

189 posts

20 months

Thursday 24th November
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ingenieur said:
I felt yours was missing something...

With a portfolio like this you have no chance of getting on the BMW design team.
Just looked up the kerb weight of my 2002 E46 330 Ci , well proportioned, well engineered, beautifully functional, terrific on a B road and just 1400 kg's. Does any of the guys in BMW's design office take any interest in cars or do they alternate between designing fridge-freezer's and drinking sustainable designer coffee?.