RE: 2023 BMW 3.0 CSL revealed
Discussion
magic Monkey Dust said:
I really like this.
Should be available on the range listing at this late stage in ICE.Needs an alloy strip betwwen rear lights and a smaller grill.
i redesigned it on my phone using a finger in 30 seconds and in a taste comparison i reckon I'd beat BMW's in house team.
BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
Might look nicer without all the decals. Strange they went to all that engineering expense and then only decided to make 50 when I am sure they could have sold more....
It’s an M4 CSL with lower boost pressure, a higher redline and some carbon body panels, with their pre-existing manual thrown in. I imagine the expense was negligible and that this is a money-printing exercise.magic Monkey Dust said:
I really like this.
Should be available on the range listing at this late stage in ICE.Needs an alloy strip betwwen rear lights and a smaller grill.
i redesigned it on my phone using a finger in 30 seconds and in a taste comparison i reckon I'd beat BMW's in house team.
Edited by ingenieur on Thursday 24th November 15:23
I don't think the wing is the biggest styling cue to the original. The biggest cue is the rocket bunny style wheel arches on the rear making it look like it has a wider track. Then there's the grille pointing outwards rather than inwards (something retained by the originals spiritual successor, the original 6 series), which I rather like (as opposed to the normal grille setup). That being said, in the whole this doesn't look good. It'd look better without the decals, but this is largely irrelevant as I'm never going to see one in the wild.
Personally think it looks dire - and its mostly due to the voluminous acreage of blandness that is the rear quarter panel, as well as how the CSL bits look stretched (sort of like how a puffer fish looks inflated vs. deflated).
I've read elsewhere it'll be 750,000 EUROS which, even for a limited edition, is a joke. Im pretty sure the GT3RS, Cayman GT4RS, or even (if possible) a basic Veyron would give you better investment returns
I've read elsewhere it'll be 750,000 EUROS which, even for a limited edition, is a joke. Im pretty sure the GT3RS, Cayman GT4RS, or even (if possible) a basic Veyron would give you better investment returns
Darnoc95 said:
I do like that its a manual! But as for the gear Knob!!! That looks like a bigger knob than the guy who will be driving it
I doubt that will happen - Their new tagline should be"BMW - The ultimate collecting machine"
Besides, take the centre spine from the grill and stick a Jab badge on and nobody would be any the wiser.
Does the designer who drafted this own a car with bolt-on arches? Because this, looks rubbish.
We like cars that are well thought out, well-considered and where those blistered/enhanced wheel arches look like they were meant to be there from the start.
50 being produced and 50 to live in air-conditioned garages for the rest of their lives.
We like cars that are well thought out, well-considered and where those blistered/enhanced wheel arches look like they were meant to be there from the start.
50 being produced and 50 to live in air-conditioned garages for the rest of their lives.
Silvanus said:
Pughmacher said:
I’ll stick my neck out and say that the racing Batmobile e9 this is evoking wasn’t a better looking car than the normal road going version; at least in my opinion. Therefore this new one not being exactly a looker isn’t a massive issue to me. Well done BMW for doing something with the snout! Personally there’s a demerit for not making a CSL in numbers which actually make it possible to see one outside of a show or auction floor. I’m sure there are fans who’d have bought and used one if available and not so clearly aimed at air conditioned garages. But it’s a bit beside the point for me as I’d prefer an e46 and can’t afford either. I’d love to see how they were built mind.
Thing is the original looked like it did for a reason, this is styling for stylings sake and a pretty disjointed effort at that. It just isn't a very good piece of car design, I know it will fly off the shelves, but that is down to the badge. I've long been interested in car design (almost went into it as a career), the Koreans and even the Chinese are proving to be better at car design/styling than BMW. Maybe that's because all the good designers working for the German brands went east.I hate to say it but if I had the money for one of these I'd rather spend it on the splendid original, which looks delicate yet purposeful, with a touch of 'class' that this thing is lacking.
ingenieur said:
With a portfolio like this you have no chance of getting on the BMW design team. Just looked up the kerb weight of my 2002 E46 330 Ci , well proportioned, well engineered, beautifully functional, terrific on a B road and just 1400 kg's. Does any of the guys in BMW's design office take any interest in cars or do they alternate between designing fridge-freezer's and drinking sustainable designer coffee?.
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