RE: Only RHD Bugatti EB110 SS Prototype for sale

[asci.white]

Love how triggered people get at POA.

It's a unique car, can't be easy to stamp a price on something like that.

Lottery win buy, but i'd have the interior colour changed.

[jbforce10]

Lotusgone said:

I have never properly understood POA. Presumably, the dealer has a figure in mind and increases it depending on their perception of the potential client (eg footballer/rap artist/trust fund youngster = money + stupidity).

I assume that POA just means that you have to contact the seller directly to get the price, and not meaning that you have to place a bid in a sealed envelope or immediately start negotiating a price and see if the salesman blinks first.

Maybe I'm being naive and in the collectable car industry it is indeed a means to try to hook in a wealthy collector / Investor on the off-chance of getting significantly more than it's actually worth.

BTW, to me, this is possibly my least favourite hyper car of all time. Visually repulsive from most angles and probably the reason why I never warmed to the Veyron and Chiron.

[MustangGT]

Turbobanana said:

daytona111r said:

Because it meant the majority of people could change gear with their left hand and keep their right hand on the streering wheel.

Eh?

Exactly. Most people are right-handed, so RHD keeps your strongest hand on the steering whilst using your 'weaker' one to change gear. This equals better control.

[mrclav]

MustangGT said:

Turbobanana said:

daytona111r said:

Because it meant the majority of people could change gear with their left hand and keep their right hand on the streering wheel.

Eh?

Exactly. Most people are right-handed, so RHD keeps your strongest hand on the steering whilst using your 'weaker' one to change gear. This equals better control.

In addition, the UK's preference for travel on the left actually dates back to the days of riding on horseback - as most people are right-handed, one would always wear a sword strapped on the left hip to draw across the body using the right hand if needed; as one might not know who was riding toward them was friend or foe, it was safer to pass on the left-hand side of the a path/road/lane etc and the habit has since stuck.

Far from the 'correct' side being archaic, it actually is grounded in something useful.

[V8V Quadcamboy]

I can cope with POA as long as it means we can read, for free remember, about such rarieties that we might not otherwise be now a little more informed about.

Go well, Quad

[Dave Hedgehog]

never liked the design of these, that all blue interior

[Equus]

One of the very, very few supercars I would actually have any interest in owning, with a big enough lottery win.

If it hadn't been for the Mac F1, which in lots of ways was technically less interesting and quite backward-looking, this would have had a much bigger impact in its day.

I could just about live with the blue leather, but that blue steering wheel would have to go, mind.

[GreatScott2016]

Matt_T said:

Here's my tuppence worth on the POA issue.

If it's on a rare and unique car like this I'm fine with it, if you are seriosuly in a position to buy one of these then you know what you are willing to drop on it and you know that you can go and have a long chat with the dealer over a 1994 Dom Perignon to establish if you are in the same ball park.

You may walk into this thinking "I'd happily pay £2.5m for that" and end up getting it for £2m as that's when the dealer bites. Or being told by the dealer "we've had 6 offers of £2.5m this morning so we're now looking for offers above this"

Essentially this is a one-to-one auction with the dealer.

When F40s go up for sale they are usually listed at £2.5m, that doesn't mean that you couldn't get it for £1.8m if they are struggling to sell,

...however I agree that POA on a 2017 BMW M2 is just stoopid!

Edited by Matt_T on Tuesday 14th March 14:39

Why stoopid? I'd take the M2 over this all day long

[Turbobanana]

mrclav said:

MustangGT said:

Turbobanana said:

daytona111r said:

Because it meant the majority of people could change gear with their left hand and keep their right hand on the streering wheel.

Eh?

Exactly. Most people are right-handed, so RHD keeps your strongest hand on the steering whilst using your 'weaker' one to change gear. This equals better control.

In addition, the UK's preference for travel on the left actually dates back to the days of riding on horseback - as most people are right-handed, one would always wear a sword strapped on the left hip to draw across the body using the right hand if needed; as one might not know who was riding toward them was friend or foe, it was safer to pass on the left-hand side of the a path/road/lane etc and the habit has since stuck.

Far from the 'correct' side being archaic, it actually is grounded in something useful.

So then why do so many territories do it the other way round?

[bumskins]

Turbobanana said:

So then why do so many territories do it the other way round?

No idea why but seemed to spread post-WW2, before that a lot of cars were built RHD whether French, American, German etc. Would be interested to know the reasoning.

[Deerfoot]

I saw one many years ago just outside Saint-Tropez, sounded amazing.

Would prefer this to a Veyron or Chiron.

[MDMA .]

DodgyGeezer said:

Motormouth88 said:

Interesting whip but can we start boycotting dealers who have POA listed by not featuring them?

absolutely this - POA should be banned

It’s industry standard so they can gauge how much to rip you off for.

[Maccmike8]

Wow wow and wow. Makes a nice change from the usual blue paint. The blue interior looks good against the silver paint. Wow.

[TrotCanterGallopCharge]

bumskins said:

Turbobanana said:

So then why do so many territories do it the other way round?

No idea why but seemed to spread post-WW2, before that a lot of cars were built RHD whether French, American, German etc. Would be interested to know the reasoning.

Possible backlash against previous rulers.
All Europe drove on the left, until Napoleon changed it (cant say about the rest of the world). One possible reason is the old French aristocratic classes drove on the left, so the new revolutionaries decided they had to do something different (along with other rules/regulations). The newly created America, was also strongly tied to the French at this time, so may have been influenced by them.

The French saw that they would export their revolution to other countries, but they came up against other monarchies in a stronger position than the French. As Europe was under Napoleonic control for a time, the French/Napoleon made them change. Regarding political systems, the French pragmatically, just took other countries royal titles when appointing people to positions of power.

Despite Napoleon's defeat, the driving on the right etc remained, I can imagine Europe saying that they're not going to go through all this bloody muddle again & didn't change it!

Europe became very influential later on with the rise of the empires during their industrial revolutions.

[Gecko1978]

Had I been the euro millions winner last week I would have bought this and driven it all over Europe. Epic proper super car

[Bright Halo]

An EB110 got more attention than a Veyron or a Chiron at Prescott Bugatti day pr Covid.

[thegreenhell]

TrotCanterGallopCharge said:

bumskins said:

Turbobanana said:

So then why do so many territories do it the other way round?

No idea why but seemed to spread post-WW2, before that a lot of cars were built RHD whether French, American, German etc. Would be interested to know the reasoning.

Possible backlash against previous rulers.
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The newly created America, was also strongly tied to the French at this time, so may have been influenced by them.

In America's case it was in part that they were strongly anti-British after independence and would seek to be different for the sake of it, but in more practical terms was due to the part the horse-drawn wagons played in building their nation. The right hand was traditionally the whip hand for horses, which led to wagons naturally being left hand drive, and it stuck from there.

[Katzenjammer]

The EB110 is incredible, and way more interesting and beautiful than the Veyron and the Chiron, which I wouldn’t cross the street to look at.

[zsdom]

I used to work for the bloke that bought this to the UK, he drove it a fair bit for a while

After I left there was talk a Royal Mail van put a nice hole in the rear 3/4 when it was picking up the days mail order deliveries

[Mr Adds]

My favourite of the 90s Supercars since I had a Bburago model of one in blue when I was a kid.

If I had the cash I'd be all over this, 90s perfection to me and much more character than the latest Bugatti offerings, I even like the blue interior!