RE: Only RHD Bugatti EB110 SS Prototype for sale
Discussion
Lotusgone said:
I have never properly understood POA. Presumably, the dealer has a figure in mind and increases it depending on their perception of the potential client (eg footballer/rap artist/trust fund youngster = money + stupidity).
I assume that POA just means that you have to contact the seller directly to get the price, and not meaning that you have to place a bid in a sealed envelope or immediately start negotiating a price and see if the salesman blinks first. Maybe I'm being naive and in the collectable car industry it is indeed a means to try to hook in a wealthy collector / Investor on the off-chance of getting significantly more than it's actually worth.
BTW, to me, this is possibly my least favourite hyper car of all time. Visually repulsive from most angles and probably the reason why I never warmed to the Veyron and Chiron.
Turbobanana said:
daytona111r said:
Because it meant the majority of people could change gear with their left hand and keep their right hand on the streering wheel.
Eh?MustangGT said:
Turbobanana said:
daytona111r said:
Because it meant the majority of people could change gear with their left hand and keep their right hand on the streering wheel.
Eh?Far from the 'correct' side being archaic, it actually is grounded in something useful.
One of the very, very few supercars I would actually have any interest in owning, with a big enough lottery win.
If it hadn't been for the Mac F1, which in lots of ways was technically less interesting and quite backward-looking, this would have had a much bigger impact in its day.
I could just about live with the blue leather, but that blue steering wheel would have to go, mind.
If it hadn't been for the Mac F1, which in lots of ways was technically less interesting and quite backward-looking, this would have had a much bigger impact in its day.
I could just about live with the blue leather, but that blue steering wheel would have to go, mind.
Matt_T said:
Here's my tuppence worth on the POA issue.
If it's on a rare and unique car like this I'm fine with it, if you are seriosuly in a position to buy one of these then you know what you are willing to drop on it and you know that you can go and have a long chat with the dealer over a 1994 Dom Perignon to establish if you are in the same ball park.
You may walk into this thinking "I'd happily pay £2.5m for that" and end up getting it for £2m as that's when the dealer bites. Or being told by the dealer "we've had 6 offers of £2.5m this morning so we're now looking for offers above this"
Essentially this is a one-to-one auction with the dealer.
When F40s go up for sale they are usually listed at £2.5m, that doesn't mean that you couldn't get it for £1.8m if they are struggling to sell,
...however I agree that POA on a 2017 BMW M2 is just stoopid!
Why stoopid? I'd take the M2 over this all day long If it's on a rare and unique car like this I'm fine with it, if you are seriosuly in a position to buy one of these then you know what you are willing to drop on it and you know that you can go and have a long chat with the dealer over a 1994 Dom Perignon to establish if you are in the same ball park.
You may walk into this thinking "I'd happily pay £2.5m for that" and end up getting it for £2m as that's when the dealer bites. Or being told by the dealer "we've had 6 offers of £2.5m this morning so we're now looking for offers above this"
Essentially this is a one-to-one auction with the dealer.
When F40s go up for sale they are usually listed at £2.5m, that doesn't mean that you couldn't get it for £1.8m if they are struggling to sell,
...however I agree that POA on a 2017 BMW M2 is just stoopid!
Edited by Matt_T on Tuesday 14th March 14:39

mrclav said:
MustangGT said:
Turbobanana said:
daytona111r said:
Because it meant the majority of people could change gear with their left hand and keep their right hand on the streering wheel.
Eh?Far from the 'correct' side being archaic, it actually is grounded in something useful.
bumskins said:
Turbobanana said:
So then why do so many territories do it the other way round?
No idea why but seemed to spread post-WW2, before that a lot of cars were built RHD whether French, American, German etc. Would be interested to know the reasoning.All Europe drove on the left, until Napoleon changed it (cant say about the rest of the world). One possible reason is the old French aristocratic classes drove on the left, so the new revolutionaries decided they had to do something different (along with other rules/regulations). The newly created America, was also strongly tied to the French at this time, so may have been influenced by them.
The French saw that they would export their revolution to other countries, but they came up against other monarchies in a stronger position than the French. As Europe was under Napoleonic control for a time, the French/Napoleon made them change. Regarding political systems, the French pragmatically, just took other countries royal titles when appointing people to positions of power.
Despite Napoleon's defeat, the driving on the right etc remained, I can imagine Europe saying that they're not going to go through all this bloody muddle again & didn't change it!
Europe became very influential later on with the rise of the empires during their industrial revolutions.
TrotCanterGallopCharge said:
bumskins said:
Turbobanana said:
So then why do so many territories do it the other way round?
No idea why but seemed to spread post-WW2, before that a lot of cars were built RHD whether French, American, German etc. Would be interested to know the reasoning.<snip>
The newly created America, was also strongly tied to the French at this time, so may have been influenced by them.
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