RE: Ford Mondeo ST220 | Shed of the Week
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I have a nasty feeling that the underbody corrosion may limit the economic life of this (otherwise quite nice) ST220 to another year.
Fixing the exhaust and suspension bits etc is almost certainly well within the abilities of the average weekend Pistonhead mechanics. However, if it's got rot under the sill covers etc, and places that a picky MoT tester knows where to look it could be the end of the story in 6 months' time.
Fixing the exhaust and suspension bits etc is almost certainly well within the abilities of the average weekend Pistonhead mechanics. However, if it's got rot under the sill covers etc, and places that a picky MoT tester knows where to look it could be the end of the story in 6 months' time.
What a fantastic shed, always fancied one of these and at this price, it seems like a rather good purchase. A ton of TLC and standard repairs would see it hold it's value rather well I would have thought. I know it would be better with the modifications mentioned, but it's not really worth spending that kind of money on it.
Would love to buy it, but I already have a car that cripples me at the petrol station as it is!
Would love to buy it, but I already have a car that cripples me at the petrol station as it is!
Wab1974uk said:
Always like these, and the ST24 before that.
Never owned one, but enquired about an ST24 when they were new. I was early 20's and clearly the dealer didn't consider me a serious buyer, and never got back to me with the figures.
I do like V6 engine cars.
A family member had an ST24 as a company car back in the day which they really liked. Seemed pretty brisk at the time. Never owned one, but enquired about an ST24 when they were new. I was early 20's and clearly the dealer didn't consider me a serious buyer, and never got back to me with the figures.
I do like V6 engine cars.
aestivator said:
SteveStrange said:
"It's only done 104k miles"
Photo literally shows 105,005 miles.
Oh right, well now I know it's done 1005 miles more than I thought, I'm out.Photo literally shows 105,005 miles.
However, if you're in the market for this sort of car then I don't think you need to walk away from it, at this end of the market compromises are very likely required. But you do you.
Evil.soup said:
What a fantastic shed, always fancied one of these and at this price, it seems like a rather good purchase. A ton of TLC and standard repairs would see it hold it's value rather well I would have thought. I know it would be better with the modifications mentioned, but it's not really worth spending that kind of money on it.
Would love to buy it, but I already have a car that cripples me at the petrol station as it is!
Are you really suggesting that something that does 28mpg comes under the category of "something that cripples you at the petrol station"?!!Would love to buy it, but I already have a car that cripples me at the petrol station as it is!
Deranged Rover said:
Evil.soup said:
What a fantastic shed, always fancied one of these and at this price, it seems like a rather good purchase. A ton of TLC and standard repairs would see it hold it's value rather well I would have thought. I know it would be better with the modifications mentioned, but it's not really worth spending that kind of money on it.
Would love to buy it, but I already have a car that cripples me at the petrol station as it is!
Are you really suggesting that something that does 28mpg comes under the category of "something that cripples you at the petrol station"?!!Would love to buy it, but I already have a car that cripples me at the petrol station as it is!
I too had an ST TDCI of this era (in fact, I think mine was an 05 too) and it was one of the best cars I've ever had. Economical, quick enough for a diesel but loads of space and dead comfy on long runs. Look at 220s every now and then - panther black hatchback with the red Recaro interior would be my choice. The only downside was that it felt REALLY poorly built compared to the mk2 Octavia VRS I replaced it with (which in turn felt poor vs the BMW I replaced that with).
I'd still have another.
I'd still have another.
Have had my 220 2yrs now and done just over 9000 miles, now at 144k.
Changed the oil and air filter this morning, made a note and noticed its not cost me a lot, some oil and filters a couple of mots, and one water pump ( that I knew needed doing when buying it )
Oh done both rocker gaskets and sump, but still leaks oil!
Its serving me and family duties well, sub 20mpg avg, but back in 2015 ish it had a lpg conversion, that works, and have run it on that 95% of the time.
And it has the red recaros 👍
Changed the oil and air filter this morning, made a note and noticed its not cost me a lot, some oil and filters a couple of mots, and one water pump ( that I knew needed doing when buying it )
Oh done both rocker gaskets and sump, but still leaks oil!
Its serving me and family duties well, sub 20mpg avg, but back in 2015 ish it had a lpg conversion, that works, and have run it on that 95% of the time.
And it has the red recaros 👍
Edited by FilH on Friday 17th March 11:32
It'll drive very nicely, it will probably be pretty reliable and durable mechanically, but it sounds like it's about to enter the typical older Ford era of needing to be attacked with a MIG welder come every MOT, in a long and ultimately futile battle with tin worm.
These really do handle nicely though. I drove one years ago and thoroughly enjoyed it, although the engine, for all its decent noise seemed a bit limp.
If you can stomach mid 20s to the gallon and £350 VED, why not?
These really do handle nicely though. I drove one years ago and thoroughly enjoyed it, although the engine, for all its decent noise seemed a bit limp.
If you can stomach mid 20s to the gallon and £350 VED, why not?
Ok I suppose but hard to justify thirst for the performance on offer. If it was a V8 then fine.
Also any old Mercedes with the OM642 3.0 CDI from the era have standard 221PS, and £150 tuning box on eBay is more like 270PS, and probably double the fuel economy of this thing. If you want a performance shed, that's where I would look (black pump caveats apply).
Also any old Mercedes with the OM642 3.0 CDI from the era have standard 221PS, and £150 tuning box on eBay is more like 270PS, and probably double the fuel economy of this thing. If you want a performance shed, that's where I would look (black pump caveats apply).
Cambs_Stuart said:
Deranged Rover said:
Evil.soup said:
What a fantastic shed, always fancied one of these and at this price, it seems like a rather good purchase. A ton of TLC and standard repairs would see it hold it's value rather well I would have thought. I know it would be better with the modifications mentioned, but it's not really worth spending that kind of money on it.
Would love to buy it, but I already have a car that cripples me at the petrol station as it is!
Are you really suggesting that something that does 28mpg comes under the category of "something that cripples you at the petrol station"?!!Would love to buy it, but I already have a car that cripples me at the petrol station as it is!
So I stand by my point, it will be costly on fuel and at the pumps regularly.
I impulsively bought one of these for under a grand a few years ago, fixed the issues and sold for a small profit.
I didn’t live with it for long, a few weeks total, but my impressions.
They still handle/steer so well for a fairly big car.
Makes a great noise
Isn’t actually that fast, certainly by modern standards. You really have to extract performance from them, rather than just putting your foot down.
History of the engine development is pretty interesting!
I didn’t live with it for long, a few weeks total, but my impressions.
They still handle/steer so well for a fairly big car.
Makes a great noise
Isn’t actually that fast, certainly by modern standards. You really have to extract performance from them, rather than just putting your foot down.
History of the engine development is pretty interesting!
FilH said:
Have had my 220 2yrs now and done just over 9000 miles, now at 144k.
Changed the oil and air filter this morning, made a note and noticed its not cost me a lot, some oil and filters a couple of mots, and one water pump ( that I knew needed doing when buying it )
Oh done both rocker gaskets and sump, but still leaks oil!
Its serving me and family duties well, sub 20mpg avg, but back in 2015 ish it had a lpg conversion, that works, and have run it on that 95% of the time.
And it has the red recaros ??
The interior is clearly black?Changed the oil and air filter this morning, made a note and noticed its not cost me a lot, some oil and filters a couple of mots, and one water pump ( that I knew needed doing when buying it )
Oh done both rocker gaskets and sump, but still leaks oil!
Its serving me and family duties well, sub 20mpg avg, but back in 2015 ish it had a lpg conversion, that works, and have run it on that 95% of the time.
And it has the red recaros ??
Edited by FilH on Friday 17th March 11:32
Evil.soup said:
Cambs_Stuart said:
Deranged Rover said:
Evil.soup said:
What a fantastic shed, always fancied one of these and at this price, it seems like a rather good purchase. A ton of TLC and standard repairs would see it hold it's value rather well I would have thought. I know it would be better with the modifications mentioned, but it's not really worth spending that kind of money on it.
Would love to buy it, but I already have a car that cripples me at the petrol station as it is!
Are you really suggesting that something that does 28mpg comes under the category of "something that cripples you at the petrol station"?!!Would love to buy it, but I already have a car that cripples me at the petrol station as it is!
So I stand by my point, it will be costly on fuel and at the pumps regularly.
Fastdruid said:
Top gear did a test of the boggo 2l rep cars. amongst others there was a Mk3 Mondeo 2.0i and the more powerful E46 318i
The boggo 2.0i Mondeo was 2 seconds faster round the Top Gear test track than the 318i!
Now now, don't let facts and figures get in the way of bashing a non-premium brand. Next you'll be pointing out the Mondeo has 5-series interior space too The boggo 2.0i Mondeo was 2 seconds faster round the Top Gear test track than the 318i!
Edited by Fastdruid on Friday 17th March 09:44
Most of my cars have been RWD but TBH most if not all manufacturers have made them so benign and understeer-prone that you may as well be in an FWD unless you want to deliberately kick the back end out (and let's be honest, most people never do that, and the rest of us do it occasionally for s
ts and giggles only).I did like the ST220, it was pretty epic for its time and was even relatively good on fuel Vs the similarly nippy Vectra 2.8T.
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