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yme402 said:
What’s wrong with it? It’s cheap to run, meets all safety legislations, and is good for the planet.
Safety legislation for what? It's not actually a car, it's a quad? You are coming across as rather ignorant on the whole subject, shall I fetch you a big spade for your further replies.
geeks said:
yme402 said:
I don’t think it’s the existence of the Motability scheme that irks some people. It’s more down to the lack of governance and policing of the scheme that seems to allow widespread abuse. There is something wrong in 2024 where a hard working person on minimum wage subsidises a brand new car for someone else that they could never dream of owning themselves.
My wife would gladly swap her "free car" for things such as; being able to walk more than 15 yards without searing almost debilitating pain, having to use a mobility scooter to go shopping, the chance to see what it feels like to run, to erase the minor ptsd from having had over a dozen operations before the age of 13, to be able to stand more than a minute or so without pain, crippling arthritis, the knowledge that she will most likely be in a wheelchair before the end of the decade, not having been raised in a hospital until she was 6. I could go on but if you haven't got it by now, I suspect you never will! I'll never understand the jealousy of this, ever, not even a little bit, it's f
king disgusting.yme402 said:
I don’t think it’s the existence of the Motability scheme that irks some people. It’s more down to the lack of governance and policing of the scheme that seems to allow widespread abuse. There is something wrong in 2024 where a hard working person on minimum wage subsidises a brand new car for someone else that they could never dream of owning themselves.
So basically it Irks you because you're jealous. Right?Motability is a fixed £71 per week. Anything more expensive you have to pay for. If you don't take the car you can get the £71 per week into your account.
You know that people can have disabilities that you can't see? And you know they might choose to have a normal life without telling you about the difficulties they face?
Edited by smallpaul on Sunday 3rd March 23:36
yme402 said:
I don’t think it’s the existence of the Motability scheme that irks some people. It’s more down to the lack of governance and policing of the scheme that seems to allow widespread abuse. There is something wrong in 2024 where a hard working person on minimum wage subsidises a brand new car for someone else that they could never dream of owning themselves.
I was going to type out a well thought out reply, about how people like my wife would be lost without the Motability scheme, but feel it would go over your head.Instead I will use language I think is on your level.
You are a nasty horrible little ****.
Treading carefully here. I think the whole motability thing gets confused with the blue badge holder parking. Local Facebook page and the moans about the 2018 Range Rover Sport parked in disability bay of local Morrisons, big blue badge on show. Man/woman jumps out to pick up large bag of BBQ coals!
It’s “reported” on Facebook with the usual “not every disability is seen”.
I think it’s the blue badge thing that is abused more than motobility.
And yes OP…you’re not a nice person!
It’s “reported” on Facebook with the usual “not every disability is seen”.
I think it’s the blue badge thing that is abused more than motobility.
And yes OP…you’re not a nice person!
car user said:
Sebring440 said:
I wouldn't keep digging if I were you.
It does get abused. The only people I know of that have Motability cars are both capable of supporting themselves and getting around without the need for a freebie car. To be honest, the whole scheme seems crazy to me. I understand the need to support disabled people and give them the ability to take part in society, but the scheme itself seems poorly designed, almost like it's purpose is to prop up the new car industry and dealerships that service the cars.
The blue badge outrage when it happens is hilarious. I often get it when seen leaving driving my Dad around. He has a badge due to difficulties walking, I don’t but people always focus on the driver never the passenger.
As for motability it’s a fantastic scheme that provides a great way for people who would otherwise struggle to afford an appropriate vehicle to get around. If mince thick half wits like the OP did an ounce of research they’d maybe realise that the car and running costs aren’t covered by benefits. But by a charity! There’s no way you could get a car, insure and maintain it on the PIP allowance alone.
As for motability it’s a fantastic scheme that provides a great way for people who would otherwise struggle to afford an appropriate vehicle to get around. If mince thick half wits like the OP did an ounce of research they’d maybe realise that the car and running costs aren’t covered by benefits. But by a charity! There’s no way you could get a car, insure and maintain it on the PIP allowance alone.
What's wrong with an Ami?
- How do families cope with a 2 seater?
- Range is ~ 30 miles max and is granny charged
-Top speed is around 35mph which will preclude in from motorways. Then the OP will start a thread saying that he's stuck behind multiple Ami's on a 60mph country lane.
- Heater - none - a big problem in this country when it's cold and steams up.
- How does a person with a disability get their wheelchair/scooter/shopping behind the rear seats - more non-thinking by the OP
At least a normal car allows people with disabilities to go places and try to lead normal lives.
- How do families cope with a 2 seater?
- Range is ~ 30 miles max and is granny charged
-Top speed is around 35mph which will preclude in from motorways. Then the OP will start a thread saying that he's stuck behind multiple Ami's on a 60mph country lane.
- Heater - none - a big problem in this country when it's cold and steams up.
- How does a person with a disability get their wheelchair/scooter/shopping behind the rear seats - more non-thinking by the OP
At least a normal car allows people with disabilities to go places and try to lead normal lives.
Silvanus said:
Mikebentley said:
OP you are an absolute cock womble. Why should someone with disabilities be limited to a tiny electric vehicle. News flash people with disabilities can have all the same requirements from transport as anybody else. What a horrible person.
I'm guessing you don't agree that motability should be stopped for people with mobility issues and replaced with an electric quadricycle? My mate with cerebral palsy would love to get rid of his Toyota Yaris Cross and get one of these 
car user said:
It does get abused. The only people I know of that have Motability cars are both capable of supporting themselves and getting around without the need for a freebie car.
It's not a freebie car. You have to sacrifice a proportion of your benefits. The nicer the car, the bigger the benefit sacrifice. If you didn't have the car, you'd be getting more money. Is the money you sacrifice enough to buy, tax and insure the car....no. So it's a subsidised car, not a freebie. Is the money you sacrifice more than the cost of getting around on buses and trains, usually yes. But many disabled people don't have the same public transport options as the rest of us.
Not sure why the OP is getting such a bashing here.
I don’t think he said they should be forced to use them, more another option for those that want something small and by the looks of it, easier to get in and out of and only needed for local journeys.
The less abled do still have a choice.
I don’t think he said they should be forced to use them, more another option for those that want something small and by the looks of it, easier to get in and out of and only needed for local journeys.
The less abled do still have a choice.
Maybe not the AMI, but there are numerous electric cars on the scheme to chose from and yes it would be ideal for someone who only does town driving. I can think of a few people the ami would suit, but they are not disabled. Infact, someone at the hospital I work at has one.
and I too would gladly swap my cerebral palsy to be able bodied and capable of a lot more than I am
and I too would gladly swap my cerebral palsy to be able bodied and capable of a lot more than I am
James_N said:
Maybe not the AMI, but there are numerous electric cars on the scheme to chose from and yes it would be ideal for someone who only does town driving. I can think of a few people the ami would suit, but they are not disabled. Infact, someone at the hospital I work at has one.
and I too would gladly swap my cerebral palsy to be able bodied and capable of a lot more than I am
But then you won't get a free car though!!and I too would gladly swap my cerebral palsy to be able bodied and capable of a lot more than I am
I love a good Motability bashing thread from the ill informed!
Mikebentley said:
Silvanus I actually think it should be available on the scheme. And due to its very low purchase price the disabled person would only hopefully need to utilise maybe a quarter of their mobility portion of PIP or DLA leaving the balance in their pockets. What I think the snide OP was suggesting was that all they should offer is the Tommy Tippee Ami.
I agree, if an Ami would suit someone's needs, they should be able to get it on the motability scheme.I quite like them, I just feel they're a hair too slow to cover a lot of urban use.
Just being able to do 40 rather than 30 I think would be enough, though even as it stands, if I still worked at my previous site, I'd have been able to use one for my commute without difficulty.
James_N said:
Maybe not the AMI, but there are numerous electric cars on the scheme to chose from and yes it would be ideal for someone who only does town driving. I can think of a few people the ami would suit, but they are not disabled. Infact, someone at the hospital I work at has one.
and I too would gladly swap my cerebral palsy to be able bodied and capable of a lot more than I am
I think that was possibly the point that was badly being put across.and I too would gladly swap my cerebral palsy to be able bodied and capable of a lot more than I am
It’s just another option for someone who is less abled.
This place does seem to be full of the professionally offended.
James_N said:
Maybe not the AMI, but there are numerous electric cars on the scheme to chose from ....
A Skoda dealer told me they were doing loads of Enyaqs on Motability - it was £1000 up front but then the charger was free and the monthly payment is completely covered by the allowance.I don't know how the finances work behind this - IIRC there's no VAT for a start, and whether Motability as a charity is putting any money into it (I doubt it, weren't they in trouble for amassing an absolute fortune in reserves?) but bearing in mind that's fully maintained and fully insured for multiple drivers, and for 15K/miles per year, in cost terms it's a very good deal. Skoda would be swamped if anyone could have Enyaq on the same deal, even plus VAT.
If EVs really are popular on Motability then I suppose for the rest of us it's going to produce a lot of 3yr old used ones.
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