Motability

[Silvanus]

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[blue_haddock]

yme402 said:

Is this not the perfect Motability car……modern day interpretation of the Invacar?

This attitude is what seriously annoys as a disabled person with a motability car.

Why should we be forced to have such vehicles?

How do i transport my family in one of them?

Maybe if you actually had a disability (being an idiotic pr!ck doesnt count) you would understand the needs of disabled people just a little better.

[blue_haddock]

yme402 said:

I don’t think it’s the existence of the Motability scheme that irks some people. It’s more down to the lack of governance and policing of the scheme that seems to allow widespread abuse. There is something wrong in 2024 where a hard working person on minimum wage subsidises a brand new car for someone else that they could never dream of owning themselves.

And what about those disbled people like me who actually work and contribute into the system?

would i be able to choose my own vehicle or should i let idiots like you dictate what i can and cant have?

[Acorn1]

There's a woman who parks up beside our office and walks to the adjacent shops most days with her 'hover stick' (it never touches the ground)

I did end up chatting to her one day, a nice lady, I asked her what happened to her and she told me her disability was caused by living close to a pylon for 10 years! :

Drives a new softroader of some description which seems to be replaced every 2-3 years.

[Silvanus]

Acorn1 said:

There's a woman who parks up beside our office and walks to the adjacent shops most days with her 'hover stick' (it never touches the ground)

I did end up chatting to her one day, a nice lady, I asked her what happened to her and she told me her disability was caused by living close to a pylon for 10 years! :

Drives a new softroader of some description which seems to be replaced every 2-3 years.

On that evidence alone, Motability should be scrapped.

[Magikarp]

car user said:

It does get abused. The only people I know of that have Motability cars are both capable of supporting themselves and getting around without the need for a freebie car.

To be honest, the whole scheme seems crazy to me. I understand the need to support disabled people and give them the ability to take part in society, but the scheme itself seems poorly designed, almost like it's purpose is to prop up the new car industry and dealerships that service the cars.

There we have it! I was expecting the whole " I personally know of..." style bks from someone who begrudges any assistance of any sort to anyone, because someone they distantly know might not appear disabled.

It's not a free car, either.

Save your ire for the real freeloaders, and take your pick from toffs, royalty, mega corporations, or tory politicans.

[J4CKO]

Silvanus said:

Acorn1 said:

There's a woman who parks up beside our office and walks to the adjacent shops most days with her 'hover stick' (it never touches the ground)

I did end up chatting to her one day, a nice lady, I asked her what happened to her and she told me her disability was caused by living close to a pylon for 10 years! :

Drives a new softroader of some description which seems to be replaced every 2-3 years.

On that evidence alone, Motability should be scrapped.

I was talking to my mate last night, he has a Motability car as he has Cerebral Palsy, its quite debilitating, he uses a wheelchair and a mobility scooter, his wife does the driving as his movement issues preclude him from driving. He has a job, he has run a business and is absolutely the kind of person that it is designed for, who deserves one to try and redress, in some small way the disadvantages he has had from birth.

For every possible chancer getting a cheap/free car, there are a hell of a lot more who absolutely need one and would rather it was that way round than nobody gets one.

Seen a couple of examples of it being scammed but by and large most seem pretty legit, every system will have some abuse, impossible to weed it all out

[InitialDave]

J4CKO said:

For every possible chancer getting a cheap/free car, there are a hell of a lot more who absolutely need one and would rather it was that way round than nobody gets one.

Seen a couple of examples of it being scammed but by and large most seem pretty legit, every system will have some abuse, impossible to weed it all out

Yes, if you have a benefit, you need to make sure people know about it, understand they can claim it, know how to claim it, actually get it etc.

But in trying to make that as transparent as possible, yes, you'll end up with some holes in the system that people can exploit.

There's a point at which you just have to accept it is possible to exploit them, and trust that the majority of people are moral enough not to take things they don't need.

Trying to rigorously enforce it might well stamp out abuse, but at a cost of preventing access for those with a genuine need, which is a far worse outcome.

[LT1 or LT4]

My 18 daughter qualifies for enhanced PIP, she has restricted growth, the result of a spontaneous gene mutation.

Having obtained 9 GSE's and 3 A levels, she passed her driving test in July last year.

Gap year - no trips to Aus here I'm afraid: had a months break then was immobile for 6 months following 10 hours of surgery last September.

OP, you obviously lack intelligence so doubtful that you would recognise pain and heartache this has put her and us through.

Now free of the fixators and out of plaster, but unable to walk for more than 5 minutes without aching pain - hoping this will improve.

These experiences can make a person develop a stronger more determined character. Now driving all over the shop in her mobility car (inc wheelchair), an adapted Kia Picanto (brilliant little thing), visiting her mates at there Uni's, having fun and maxing out life before she starts herself in Sep/Oct. Accepted at Reading, reading Law.

To the cretinous idiots who like to go on and on and on about free cars. Use your one free brain cell for a moment, think about a disability like this and what a difference having a safe, reliable well maintained car to use would really mean to you.

Wife and I both work, never claimed for anything. I consider £300 a month tax payer investment keeping her mobile her be a good one, I am optimistic that upon graduation she will go on to have a great career, be a higher rate tax payer and make a useful contribution.

Will suggest specialism in benefit fraud, plenty of to**ers out there who claim plenty and deserve nothing...!!

[Sebring440]

Silvanus said:

Acorn1 said:

There's a woman who parks up beside our office and walks to the adjacent shops most days with her 'hover stick' (it never touches the ground)

I did end up chatting to her one day, a nice lady, I asked her what happened to her and she told me her disability was caused by living close to a pylon for 10 years! :

Drives a new softroader of some description which seems to be replaced every 2-3 years.

On that evidence alone, Motability should be scrapped.

Who said she was driving a Motab car?

[CKY]

Mikebentley said:

OP you are an absolute cock womble. Why should someone with disabilities be limited to a tiny electric vehicle. News flash people with disabilities can have all the same requirements from transport as anybody else. What a horrible person.

Quite right, with the OP's approach there wouldn't be anyone left to buy Vauxhall Mokkas.

[Silvanus]

Sebring440 said:

Silvanus said:

Acorn1 said:

There's a woman who parks up beside our office and walks to the adjacent shops most days with her 'hover stick' (it never touches the ground)

I did end up chatting to her one day, a nice lady, I asked her what happened to her and she told me her disability was caused by living close to a pylon for 10 years! :

Drives a new softroader of some description which seems to be replaced every 2-3 years.

On that evidence alone, Motability should be scrapped.

Who said she was driving a Motab car?

I'll fetch you a parrot

[Tommo87]

Silvanus said:

Acorn1 said:

There's a woman who parks up beside our office and walks to the adjacent shops most days with her 'hover stick' (it never touches the ground)

I did end up chatting to her one day, a nice lady, I asked her what happened to her and she told me her disability was caused by living close to a pylon for 10 years! :

Drives a new softroader of some description which seems to be replaced every 2-3 years.

On that evidence alone, Motability should be scrapped.

Grow up you child
Not everything is about you.

[Mikebentley]

Great post ^^^ I get annoyed as my 18 year old daughter has Downs Syndrome. And yes when we were significantly worse off when she was little we used the scheme and surrendered some of her benefits.

They are able to offer such seemingly good deals as they are the biggest buyer of new cars in the UK. Their buying power gets them huge leverage and 20% + discounts and they also are a good avenue for motor manufacturers to shift stock. This then returns to the market as well maintained used stock. Their charitable status I believe also removes VAT.

Last thing I read was they had cash at bank of over 5 billion so maybe the VAT thing could be reviewed.

For the majority of their customers they are a lifeline and a great help.

[Silvanus]

Tommo87 said:

Silvanus said:

Acorn1 said:

There's a woman who parks up beside our office and walks to the adjacent shops most days with her 'hover stick' (it never touches the ground)

I did end up chatting to her one day, a nice lady, I asked her what happened to her and she told me her disability was caused by living close to a pylon for 10 years! :

Drives a new softroader of some description which seems to be replaced every 2-3 years.

On that evidence alone, Motability should be scrapped.

Grow up you child
Not everything is about you.

About me?

[Sebring440]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

It's not a freebie car. You have to sacrifice a proportion of your benefits. The nicer the car, the bigger the benefit sacrifice.

It's not quite like that. You use all that particular benefit for the basic Motability package, therefore the smallest (cheapest) car on their approved list. If you want a nicer and/or larger car, there are plenty more on the approved list. The more expensive the car, the more you have to contribute. The contribution could be £600, or it could be £6000.

[Roger Irrelevant]

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[Electronicpants]

Silvanus said:

Tommo87 said:

Silvanus said:

Acorn1 said:

There's a woman who parks up beside our office and walks to the adjacent shops most days with her 'hover stick' (it never touches the ground)

I did end up chatting to her one day, a nice lady, I asked her what happened to her and she told me her disability was caused by living close to a pylon for 10 years! :

Drives a new softroader of some description which seems to be replaced every 2-3 years.

On that evidence alone, Motability should be scrapped.

Grow up you child
Not everything is about you.

About me?

You'd hope not, because if it was then he might need to apply himself after getting hit by the massive parrot.

[Miocene]

Our youngest is eligible, but as others have said it's an exchange of benefits.

We've never had a car from motability, but looking at the Enyaq due to the deals they have atm. There are definitely those that abuse the system - we know some ourselves- but the majority are straight.

My wife's had a large number of run ins with people when getting out of the car. The favourite being when she got out, went to the boot to get our daughters kit out and sensed someone come towards her. With perfect timing, as the stranger opened her mouth my wife passed her an oxygen canister. When the lady then stood there with a puzzled look upon her face my wife simply said 'oh sorry, I thought you were offering to help'. Cue some inaudible murmur from the lady, putting down the canister and walking off.

[AmyRichardson]

As a concept the Invacar belonged to a time when adapting a larger conventional vehicle was prohibitively expensive (the Invacar came with quite a variety of control configurations) and the general level of prosperity (and expectation) simply wasn't such that the state could extend a free, adapted car to everyone who needed one. Why they felt a Fordist approach to colour was necessary is anyone's guess, but if you're already driving an Invacar then colour is presumably a secondary concern.

But now it can, so it does and people don't have to put up with that sort of thing. Maybe a Mokka, but that's only 99% as bad

Apparently the late, 600cc ones could do 82mph; it would take a brave man to do that in an upturned bathtub on wheels!