RE: Dulcet V12 goodness for less | Six of the Best

RE: Dulcet V12 goodness for less | Six of the Best

Saturday 6th July

Dulcet V12 goodness for less | Six of the Best

The prospect of a new V12 is becoming more rarefied and costly by the day. Thank goodness for depreciation


Mercedes SL65 AMG, 2004, 15k, £84,995

The V12 is moving into an interesting era. The long-prophesied downfall has not yet come to pass. Instead, the configuration is being preserved for a new generation by the likes of Lamborghini and Ferrari, and deified by niche manufacturers like Gordon Murray Automotive. All of it borrowed time, perhaps - but for as long as 12 cylinders remain a lightning rod for a certain kind of money-no-object enthusiasm, they will continue, albeit at increasingly wild premiums. Thank goodness then for the secondhand market, which will supply you with all the grandeur for a fraction of the cost. Barely run-in Mercedes SL 65 AMG with 612hp from its 6.0-litre, Hammer-of-the-God’s unit? You’ll get a fiver back from £85k. Bosh. 

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Rolls-Royce Ghost, 2014, 45k, £89,950

Of course, Mercedes’ turbocharged monster is a leftover leviathan of the 20th century. The Rolls-Royce Ghost is interesting because, unlike several major rivals (and keenly aware of which side its bread is buttered) it will soldier on with its kingly 6.75-litre V12 all the way till 2030. Obviously its maker can point more environmentally sensitive customers to the Spectre, but for those who don’t like change, twelve cylinders are set to remain a monolith-like presence in the lineup for years yet. Which will help to keep prices of ten-year-old examples accessible to the hoi polloi. Here’s a lovely looking one with the older 6.6-litre unit for fifty quid less than £90k. 

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Aston Martin DBS, 2009, 31k, £87,995

If the Roller is too biased toward the comfort of those sitting in the back for your liking, how about a manual DBS with no rear seats at all? Granted, the model wasn’t Aston’s finest hour in terms of model differentiation back in the day, but now it’s easier to appreciate for its own sake - especially when you’re selecting which ratio to be in with Bond-like precision. The vendor reckons just 61 examples of the DBS were built in Lightning Silver with the six-speed manual, and it seems pretty timeless with an Obsidian black leather interior. It’s got a full Aston service history, too, and has accumulated just 31k miles since 2009. To die for, right? 

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Bentley Flying Spur, 2007, 25k, £19,800

If £90k is massively too rich for your blood, how about £19k? Clearly the Flying Spur slightly upsets the apple cart by not featuring a V12 - although its inimitable W-shaped configuration hasn’t prevented Bentley from selling many more twelve-cylinder engines than virtually anyone else in the last 20 years. You don’t need us to tell you that earlier examples are abundantly available for hatchback money in the classifieds, offering the usual mix of pomp and peril, but we’re always happy to remind people that the experience is quite unlike any other. Particularly when you’ve only paid a fraction of the retail price for a car with just one previous owner and a Bentley-stamped service book. 

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Ferrari 599 GTB, 2008, 29k, £87,500

For anyone who simply must have the full-fat hit of V12 goodness in its most distilled format, there is no finer purveyor than Ferrari. And arguably no finer exponent than the epoch-making F140 series, which started life in the Enzo more than 20 years ago, and righteously continues in the forthcoming 12Cilindri. Its more exotic variations justifiably cost the earth, but secondhand examples of the 599 GTB - as good a front-engined car as Ferrari has ever made - are arguably among the best pound-for-pound bargains currently available anywhere if you’re inclined to think its 620hp 6.0-litre V12 among the best-ever petrol-burning motors. And we are inclined. This one, with 29k on the clock, fits the bill nicely. 

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Jaguar XJ-C, 1977, 69k, £65,000

To end, something completely different. Needless to say, Jaguar’s relationship with V12 engines is hugely extensive and occasionally epic. Between 1971 and 1997, it built 161,583 examples of its flagship unit, many of them the fuel-injected 5.3-litre V12 that takes pride of place in this lovely looking XJ-C. The coupe version of the XJ has its own lively history to speak of - not all of it exemplary - but on the basis that this is now a near 50-year-old classic, we can simply tidy all the pitfalls into a box marked ‘TLC required’. This one has clearly enjoyed a great deal of that from its first and only owner. If you’d like to be the second (off the back of a six-figure restoration) the asking price is a very reasonable sounding £65k. 

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TREMAiNE

4,029 posts

157 months

Saturday 6th July
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This is a great list.

It's really hard to pick one - I've always loved the idea of a V12 SL.
But who could deny a naturally aspirated V12 Ferrari... It would have been my pick had it have been in my preferred colours.
That leaves me with picking the manual DBS... What a shame... hehe

I don't really have much love for the Jag but the RR and Bentley appeal to me...

This wouldn't be a Six of the Best comments sections without me proclaiming some subjectively better options though...

Ferrari 550 Maranello, Manual
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13704067

Bentley Continental GT
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/16463969

Ferrari Testarossa
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/16374916

I'd probably go with the same SL65 and DBS that PH went with...



And for my 6th car I'd probably go for a practical daily... Like this BMW 760
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/16967033

CountyAFC

Original Poster:

1,682 posts

11 months

Saturday 6th July
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£85k for that old Merc? rofl

Turini

428 posts

174 months

Saturday 6th July
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599 natural choice, de-tuned Enzo engine for the weekends and driving days, Ghost for daily and continental jaunts with the wife as the boot is big enough for a few wine cases next to her luggage. The rest I would leave

wistec1

454 posts

49 months

Saturday 6th July
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It has to be the Aston Martin DBS out of this V12 company. The design is timeless and like a few other models that have gone before it one can't help thinking that some of the Gaydon era cars such as the DBS & probably the Vantage are destined for greatness and they will one day be afforded the enthusiasts attention they so deserve.

Edited by wistec1 on Saturday 6th July 06:37

Drinksleeprepeat

157 posts

55 months

Saturday 6th July
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Why would anybody paying that much on the Jag restoration ruin it by putting on wire wheels?

sjc

14,341 posts

278 months

Saturday 6th July
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At last, a six of the best where I’d happily own all of them !

mooseracer

2,130 posts

178 months

Saturday 6th July
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Jag please!

Roger Irrelevant

3,117 posts

121 months

Saturday 6th July
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CountyAFC said:
£85k for that old Merc? rofl
Yeah my flabber was well and truly gasted at that too. I've been looking at fast convertibles recently and would spend that sort of money at an absolute stretch, but not on that in a month of Sundays. At half the price I think I'd still be thinking 'Yeah nice V12 and all...but it's still a 20 year old Merc'. Maybe that's what they go for though, I dunno.

Hammerhead

2,702 posts

262 months

Saturday 6th July
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Tough decision between the DBS & 599 - probably the DBS inches it for me. Would have the Royce as well for the weekday trundles.

Its Just Adz

15,071 posts

217 months

Saturday 6th July
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That 599 doesn't seem silly money. The engine is bloody amazing in those.

fantheman80

1,656 posts

57 months

Saturday 6th July
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Roger Irrelevant said:
CountyAFC said:
£85k for that old Merc? rofl
Yeah my flabber was well and truly gasted at that too. I've been looking at fast convertibles recently and would spend that sort of money at an absolute stretch, but not on that in a month of Sundays. At half the price I think I'd still be thinking 'Yeah nice V12 and all...but it's still a 20 year old Merc'. Maybe that's what they go for though, I dunno.
I was shocked as well and would have not blinked if that said 37k. Must be one hell of an engine

J4CKO

42,918 posts

208 months

Saturday 6th July
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Roger Irrelevant said:
CountyAFC said:
£85k for that old Merc? rofl
Yeah my flabber was well and truly gasted at that too. I've been looking at fast convertibles recently and would spend that sort of money at an absolute stretch, but not on that in a month of Sundays. At half the price I think I'd still be thinking 'Yeah nice V12 and all...but it's still a 20 year old Merc'. Maybe that's what they go for though, I dunno.
Yeah, sure it’s lovely but but doesn’t look that different to any other SL, Which tend to range from about four to twenty grand.


bluemason

1,109 posts

131 months

Saturday 6th July
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CountyAFC said:
£85k for that old Merc? rofl
SL Mercs do tend to be pretty rare cars, and the fact that we are looking at an SL65 with low miles. Price seems reasonable. But I would pick the 599 GTB.

el romeral

1,287 posts

145 months

Saturday 6th July
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The Ferrari & Aston Martin (even the Rolls) look like tremendous value, alongside the Mercedes. Would have to be the Ferrari though, just because it is a Ferrari cloud9

Gordon Hill

1,340 posts

23 months

Saturday 6th July
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I'd happily take any of them except the Merc, Flying Spur is incredible value, then the Ghost and Ferrari, lovely stuff.

Glenn63

3,141 posts

92 months

Saturday 6th July
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I’m a bit obsessed with 599’s at the moment, still good looking, Ferrari V12, and actually usable day to day.
DBS, yes please, although I prefer the looks of the previous Vanquish.
And I also think that shape SL is a good looking brute, not that at that price though.

GeniusOfLove

2,372 posts

20 months

Saturday 6th July
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An SL600 would be 80%+ of the car for 20% of the cost if you wanted to go in that direction.

I do love a V12.

GreatScott2016

1,504 posts

96 months

Saturday 6th July
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wistec1 said:
It has to be the Aston Martin DBS out of this V12 company. The design is timeless and like a few other models that have gone before it one can't help thinking that some of the Gaydon era cars such as the DBS & probably the Vantage are destined for greatness and they will one day be afforded the enthusiasts attention they so deserve.

Edited by wistec1 on Saturday 6th July 06:37
+1 smile

Wynn Duffy

53 posts

141 months

Saturday 6th July
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CountyAFC said:
£85k for that old Merc? rofl
All I can say is there is hope for my 2003 SL500!!!!
But seriously, as much as I do love my SL, it has its issues, ABC, SBC, water leaking into the boot......

I would rather put the money into a Ferrari 458, and keep £40K for repairs, or a 612...

Edited by Wynn Duffy on Saturday 6th July 08:53

andy43

10,647 posts

262 months

Saturday 6th July
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GeniusOfLove said:
An SL600 would be 80%+ of the car for 20% of the cost if you wanted to go in that direction.

I do love a V12.
An SL55 would be all you’d need at 10k upwards.

If you buy a V12 you have to be able to hear the investment, so either Aston or Ferrrrrari for me I think.