RE: AMG breaks its own Nordschleife record

RE: AMG breaks its own Nordschleife record

Friday 4th October 2024

AMG breaks its own Nordschleife record

6:35 was rapid - now the AMG One has gone sub 6:30...


Look away now, those who don’t care about lap times around the Nurburgring, because this is a big one. Having already claimed the official production car lap record (even if ‘production’ is doing a lot of heavy lifting there) a couple of years back, Mercedes-AMG has gone even faster still with its wild One: 6:35.183 has become 6:29.090 for the 20.832km Northern Loop.

In a roadgoing car that’ll need an MOT test in the UK before long. Less than six and a half minutes is staggering. The fastest lap of the 1983 Nurburgring 1000km was set by Stefan Bellof at 6:25.91, that being the same weekend he clocked the incredible 6:11.13 pole lap. The One is Group C pace with modern F1 technology. And CarPlay. 

Maro Engel was again on driving duty for this lap, taking advantage of more favourable weather conditions than in 2022. This time around - his third timed lap of a stint, at 6:56pm on September 23rd - the air temp was 15 degrees and the tarmac was 20, with every bit of the circuit bone dry. It was said to offer ‘perfect’ grip for the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 R tyres, so probably this is as fast as the One will go for now. Hopefully Maro enjoyed a beer after that. 

The snippets of onboard that feature in the announcement vid (expect a full onboard soon) demonstrate the phenomenal speed of the One, the track seemingly narrower and the barriers even closer than usual. It’s past 200mph on the Döttinger-Höhe without the bridge in sight. This is a minute faster than a Porsche Carrera GT achieved 20 years ago. A minute!

Engel said of his drive: "Two years ago, the conditions were not ideal, and some sections of the track were still a little damp. We knew we could do more, and we wanted to show that. Today we were able to demonstrate the maximum potential of the AMG One. Many thanks to the whole team from Affalterbach for the trust they’ve placed in me. It was a great pleasure and honour to be able to drive this record lap with such a unique car." And doesn’t it look great in red?

Given this time puts the One so far ahead of the rest (even the really silly Porsches haven’t broken 6:40 yet), it’s hard to see this time being beaten for a little while yet. But never say never in the world of the Nurburgring record drives - that’s why we keep coming back for more.


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Gecko1978

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10,749 posts

166 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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It would be interesting to know how fast the average customer would be I assume even with that car times would be minuets slower and likely never get close to it's true potential. Nice looking hyper car though does more for me than say a Chiron or what ever the new one is called

thelostboy

4,683 posts

234 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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Gecko1978 said:
It would be interesting to know how fast the average customer would be I assume even with that car times would be minuets slower and likely never get close to it's true potential. Nice looking hyper car though does more for me than say a Chiron or what ever the new one is called
This would be a fun. A bit like the Olympics would be even better if a "normal" guy was thrown into each event for context.

CG2020UK

2,218 posts

49 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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Bonkers time and gorgeous car

RB Will

10,025 posts

249 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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That would be about a 6.07 BTG time so I'd really hope most owners would be within 2 mins. Getting within 1 min would need some decent ability and circuit knowledge.

Skeptisk

8,401 posts

118 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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I wonder how much quicker the CGT would be on the latest tyres? Obviously not a minute but 10-15 seconds?

Turbobanana

6,841 posts

210 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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Maro Engel said:
I reckon I can go a good 10 secs quicker if the bloody camera car gets out of the way!

Crudeoink

815 posts

68 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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I don't care much for the car. I want to know more about those portable looking car lifts in the last picture !

greggy50

6,211 posts

200 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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Skeptisk said:
I wonder how much quicker the CGT would be on the latest tyres? Obviously not a minute but 10-15 seconds?
I would think more like 20-25 seconds given the power & weight.

V8 FOU

2,996 posts

156 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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Gecko1978 said:
It would be interesting to know how fast the average customer would be I assume even with that car times would be minuets slower
`Is Mozart buying one?

Andy83n

465 posts

71 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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Shame that 90% of the cars sold will take a couple of decades to drive a 20km lap.

Puddenchucker

4,556 posts

227 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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Crudeoink said:
I don't care much for the car. I want to know more about those portable looking car lifts in the last picture !
Kunzer RH2500?:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/285308458578


daveco

4,263 posts

216 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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Skeptisk said:
I wonder how much quicker the CGT would be on the latest tyres? Obviously not a minute but 10-15 seconds?
Someone timed an XJ220 on modern tyres and it was very rapid iirc.

jmcc500

651 posts

227 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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Gecko1978 said:
It would be interesting to know how fast the average customer would be I assume even with that car times would be minuets slower and likely never get close to it's true potential. Nice looking hyper car though does more for me than say a Chiron or what ever the new one is called
Doesn't Nico Rosberg own one? He might get pretty close biggrin

Slowlygettingit

732 posts

50 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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V8 FOU said:
Gecko1978 said:
It would be interesting to know how fast the average customer would be I assume even with that car times would be minuets slower
`Is Mozart buying one?
clap

Ross14

112 posts

246 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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we await the McMurty Spierling having ago...,

AmyRichardson

1,591 posts

51 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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Gecko1978 said:
It would be interesting to know how fast the average customer would be I assume even with that car times would be minuets slower and likely never get close to it's true potential. Nice looking hyper car though does more for me than say a Chiron or what ever the new one is called
Considering the average customer will have a lot of money, they wouldn't want for track time or high quality, analytical training. So assuming they're fit and mentally sharp they might well see a time that's not a million miles off.

Actual talent is only the last few %; pay-to-drive spuds regularly used to steer back-of-the-grid card inside the 107% cut-off, for context.

Terminator X

16,661 posts

213 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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Ross14 said:
we await the McMurty Spierling having ago...,
redcard

TX.

S600BSB

6,231 posts

115 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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Fabulous looking thing.

Numeric

1,467 posts

160 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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AmyRichardson said:
Gecko1978 said:
It would be interesting to know how fast the average customer would be I assume even with that car times would be minuets slower and likely never get close to it's true potential. Nice looking hyper car though does more for me than say a Chiron or what ever the new one is called
Considering the average customer will have a lot of money, they wouldn't want for track time or high quality, analytical training. So assuming they're fit and mentally sharp they might well see a time that's not a million miles off.

Actual talent is only the last few %; pay-to-drive spuds regularly used to steer back-of-the-grid card inside the 107% cut-off, for context.
I don't think I agree - drive with a great driver (or ride behind a great rider) and you see them do things that unless you have reasonable talent by which I mean hand eye coordination, you can not replicate.

Now in say an M2 OG you may be right - the car is lacking downforce so if you drive slower it doesn't cause much issue, but with a car like this you have to get it 'working' before you will see delivery of performance, think riding an enduro bike where extra speed will carry you through but fear of your lack of talent causes you to approach the problem at a lower speed so it all goes wrong. It's the same here - unless you are 'on it' the car goes to sleep and it actually becomes harder to drive, so you back off more. So while an average (mean) driver might get close in a more basic car, with these hyper style cars I think you could be made to look very daft if you think money will buy you a degree of talent.

As I lack both money and talent this is not an issue likely to trouble me!

pSyCoSiS

3,770 posts

214 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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Phenomenal time, considering some of the other bonkers machines that have attempted this in recent years.