RE: Vauxhall Zafira VXR | Spotted
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I have never liked these, but then again, I have never been a fan of 'any' similar type of cheap people carrier with a turbo badge.
Much rather have a hot hatch, but hell if we all liked the same thing the world would be a very dull place.
There is a blue one of these locally, it's in ropey condition, and I'm almost afraid to say it is driven by a 23 stone, unemployed father of four.
It was moving quite well down the local by-pass the other week, with a cloud of vape smoke bellowing from the driver's window, but I guess he was enjoying the car, and fair play to him.
Much rather have a hot hatch, but hell if we all liked the same thing the world would be a very dull place.
There is a blue one of these locally, it's in ropey condition, and I'm almost afraid to say it is driven by a 23 stone, unemployed father of four.
It was moving quite well down the local by-pass the other week, with a cloud of vape smoke bellowing from the driver's window, but I guess he was enjoying the car, and fair play to him.
Taz73 said:
I think this is too expensive, but I have no issues with it, I don't see the angry dad thing, most aggressive drivers I see are women in SUVs, usually driving at break neck speeds in built up areas, and because I drive city cars and go slowly over those lane centered speed bumps, narrow car, these SUVs are right up my chuff because they don't want to and don't need to slow for them.
That this is a seven seater with added performance should surely make it an interesting choice on pistonheads, I am quite surprised at the vitriol, I'd get it if you were in Australia and ford not Holden supporter for the supercar racing, but beyond that, baffles me.
Parts availability might be my biggest concern for these as they were so rare compared to normal zafiras.
Mechanical parts shouldn't be a big problem as the drivetrain seems to be the same as the Astra VXR, and according to the article the rest of it is the same as any other Zafira - apart from the Recaro seats!That this is a seven seater with added performance should surely make it an interesting choice on pistonheads, I am quite surprised at the vitriol, I'd get it if you were in Australia and ford not Holden supporter for the supercar racing, but beyond that, baffles me.
Parts availability might be my biggest concern for these as they were so rare compared to normal zafiras.
There's nothing wrong with something different surely?
Demonix said:
For many of us of a certain age Vauxhall provided accessible motoring, freedom and fun, a redtop motor and enough performance to make you smile. They weren't premium but they were enjoyable and that's what matters. VXR badged motors offer the same formula whether that's in a spiced up Zafira or a Monaro. The fact they exist is a good thing whether you'd buy one or not.
There have been plenty of red top motors in rally Escorts......as opposed to the actual Ford motors they came with.I don't understand the anti Vauxhall/GM thing on here; they've produced some fine cars over the years, and some great motorsport cars as well. The DTM Opel Calibra V6 in the DTM, or the F2 Astra in the BRC were fabulous.
Shooter McGavin said:
Driven by angry football dads to urban parks on a Saturday morning so they can shout abuse at a teenage referee whilst Jayden/Kayden/Kai or Finley does his best impression of not being the next David Beckham.
FFS!!! You lot are entertaining... and equally ridiculous... This actually made me laugh out in real life... J4CKO said:
I cant say I notice Zafiras and much less go into a complex narrative about the owners kids names and weekend activities.
Its getting a bit freaky when its being worked into the bones of a TV Drama series, sort of Shameless without the humour, warmth and pathos, and a bit more sneering.
Yep... thats the heights of British madness, pettiness, poor mental health and lack of class on full display!!!... Its getting a bit freaky when its being worked into the bones of a TV Drama series, sort of Shameless without the humour, warmth and pathos, and a bit more sneering.
But.... It wassss funny 0
Edited by MyV10BarksAndBites on Saturday 30th November 13:36
Davie said:
Shooter McGavin said:
There are two Zafira VXRs in my suburban area, a black and a red one. Both of them have illegal tints, bazooka style exhaust boxes and are driven by nobs. One of them _is_ the angry dad at football because I see him on the opposing touchline most Saturdays.
Cars generally come with an image of the type of people who drive them. That's unfortunately what it is for the Zafira VXR.
Whilst that may be true and that choice of modifications is usually the domain of a certain demographic, I think the issue is quite a few people seem to be incapable of seeing or thinking beyond these stereotypes and just reel off the usual bore stuff and in this case, I think that's the issue. This example doesn't have tints, doesn't have a big exhaust, isn't slammed on Poundland coil overs and doesn't have "Mad Bus Club" or "Powered by Fairy dust" stickers all over it and I don't think it ever has - it still has the OEM crossover pipe for the turbo, that's rare! Cars generally come with an image of the type of people who drive them. That's unfortunately what it is for the Zafira VXR.
I also don't think your average angry dad will buy this one... it's too nice... and to be fair, I think the demographic who would buy these cheap, modify them even cheaper and then abuse them have moved on. Just the same as the demographic who used to stick fibre glass body kits to Saxos have moved on. Or the demographic who used to borrow Sapphire Cosworths to visit Dixons at 2am then turn them into bonfires have moved on. Granted, like any "expensive" survivor this won't be bought by somebody looking for a cheap tip run car (why would you?) or bought to stick tear around the Bradford back streets... it'll be bought by somebody who maybe had one back in the day or wanted one back in the day and if that's you, then a nice, clean, unmolested example for £7k might be the bargain of the year.
These sort of topics always go the same way and I always end up sat wondering why car enthusiasts are so derisory of certain cars, unable to see beyond outdated stereotyping and who can't seem to appreciate them for what they are and the fact they existed... and more to the point, that a nice example still exists. Friend of mine's dad, proper car guy... not that you'd know it to look at but he's a savage behind the wheel, ex rally driver etc and yet looks like your stereotypical historian, woolen jumpers and all. His UK car sits in my friends garage - its a 2007 5dr Focus ST in blue, completely standard, very very tidy car. I was never a Ford man, I watched Clarkson shout "ASBO" a lot but that's irrelevant... it s wonderful thing to see and indeed drive, because it's a survivor and a reminder to the days when things were arguably, just a bit more fun.
Edited by Davie on Monday 25th November 15:52
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