RE: Vauxhall Zafira VXR | Spotted
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I hate Zafiras with a passion: I challenge anyone to use that handbrake once and not admit I'm right. We had one for 18 months at work and I did everything in my power to take the focus out instead.
One of the few cars where I can only imagine more power making it worse.
But... I'm sure some people love them.
One of the few cars where I can only imagine more power making it worse.
But... I'm sure some people love them.
PistonHeads said:
Like all VXRs of this vintage, most of Vauxhall’s budget was spent on making the thing go like the clappers, leaving only a few quid left in the kitty for jazzing up the interior. Much of the cabin was left untouched from the standard car, albeit with a smattering of VXR badges here and there, though you did get a set of body-hugging Recaro seats up front. The seat design is mimicked for the second row, only without the massive bolsters and Recaro branding.
I see this kind of thing wheeled out a lot in PH articles, particularly with hot hatches, but it always leaves me confused. Which performance car that's based on a regular production model has ever had a "jazzed up" interior? Be it an XR2 or an M3, the recipe has always been the same; a slightly nicer set of front seats, a different steering wheel, maybe some sportier dials, and a couple of different coloured pieces of plastic if you're lucky.
Where has this expectation come from that a performance derivative should have an entirely different interior?
Have an S-Max Titanium X with the blown 2-litre. 240Bhp, seven seats (useful when the kids were small and we were ferrying everyone around). Decent interior. Often drove the four of us down to southern Europe with everthing we needed for two weeks in comfort and with space to spare.
Slightly knackered now at 120K miles, and getting expensive to keep on the road. Eats tyres like nobodies' business. Slides pretty well considering (ahem).
I would never, ever countenance an SUV of any kind - just really not for me. I think that MPVs were a real missed opportunity (along wth Audi A2, BMW i3 - I love to back a loser...)
That Vaxhaull though? Wouldn't touch it with yours.
Slightly knackered now at 120K miles, and getting expensive to keep on the road. Eats tyres like nobodies' business. Slides pretty well considering (ahem).
I would never, ever countenance an SUV of any kind - just really not for me. I think that MPVs were a real missed opportunity (along wth Audi A2, BMW i3 - I love to back a loser...)
That Vaxhaull though? Wouldn't touch it with yours.
There are some cars which I just give a wide berth to in general, and more so when on a motorbike..
Mini’s, usually driven by young girls, faffing about on their phone.. now superseded by Fiat 500’s.
Honda Jazz, driven by old giffers, and totally unpredictable in every direction
Vauxhall Zafiras, driven always by the world’s most angry and resentful middle aged roid addict. Always angry and always up for a fight…
This is a Zafira, turned up to 11, in all of it’s bad points..
Mini’s, usually driven by young girls, faffing about on their phone.. now superseded by Fiat 500’s.
Honda Jazz, driven by old giffers, and totally unpredictable in every direction
Vauxhall Zafiras, driven always by the world’s most angry and resentful middle aged roid addict. Always angry and always up for a fight…
This is a Zafira, turned up to 11, in all of it’s bad points..
I'm going to buck the trend as I don't in the fairly universal hate Vauxhalls get on here, more so performance ones and whilst I was a Vauxhall man back in the day, though my interest started to faded away after the Mk3 Cavalier / Mk3 Astra era (90's child and all that) as a car enthusiast in general, I can't see the need to automatically jump on the stereotype band wagon.
I see this as I now see a lot of cars of that era... cars that went through a bit of an image issue, cars that dropped in value and were subsequently bought cheap, modified badly, thrashed and then usually ended up in a ditch, being seized by the Police or scrapped. However, that was then and to an extent, those days are fading into the history books and so now I have a fondness for stuff like this, respect and admiration.
It could almost be deemed a survivor... it's standard, it looks very tidy and it's not ridiculous money in the grand scale of things. If that drove past me, as a car guy, I'd turn and look because for those exact reasons. Same way I turned and look when I saw a standard Mk2 Focus ST last week and the same way in nodded in appreciation at a guy driving a standard looking Saxo VTR at my local Tesco lately.
I didn't go off snorting about VXR full boost understeer or how they like to go on fire and I didn't shout Asbo at the Focus and didn't turn to my wife and start whining about French build quality etc etc. Granted, I wouldn't personally buy the Zafira but there are endless things I wouldn't buy by choice - but equally, I wouldn't cast it aside in a hail of negativity.
I see this as I now see a lot of cars of that era... cars that went through a bit of an image issue, cars that dropped in value and were subsequently bought cheap, modified badly, thrashed and then usually ended up in a ditch, being seized by the Police or scrapped. However, that was then and to an extent, those days are fading into the history books and so now I have a fondness for stuff like this, respect and admiration.
It could almost be deemed a survivor... it's standard, it looks very tidy and it's not ridiculous money in the grand scale of things. If that drove past me, as a car guy, I'd turn and look because for those exact reasons. Same way I turned and look when I saw a standard Mk2 Focus ST last week and the same way in nodded in appreciation at a guy driving a standard looking Saxo VTR at my local Tesco lately.
I didn't go off snorting about VXR full boost understeer or how they like to go on fire and I didn't shout Asbo at the Focus and didn't turn to my wife and start whining about French build quality etc etc. Granted, I wouldn't personally buy the Zafira but there are endless things I wouldn't buy by choice - but equally, I wouldn't cast it aside in a hail of negativity.
Davie said:
I'm going to buck the trend as I don't in the fairly universal hate Vauxhalls get on here, more so performance ones and whilst I was a Vauxhall man back in the day, though my interest started to faded away after the Mk3 Cavalier / Mk3 Astra era (90's child and all that) as a car enthusiast in general, I can't see the need to automatically jump on the stereotype band wagon.
I see this as I now see a lot of cars of that era... cars that went through a bit of an image issue, cars that dropped in value and were subsequently bought cheap, modified badly, thrashed and then usually ended up in a ditch, being seized by the Police or scrapped. However, that was then and to an extent, those days are fading into the history books and so now I have a fondness for stuff like this, respect and admiration.
It could almost be deemed a survivor... it's standard, it looks very tidy and it's not ridiculous money in the grand scale of things. If that drove past me, as a car guy, I'd turn and look because for those exact reasons. Same way I turned and look when I saw a standard Mk2 Focus ST last week and the same way in nodded in appreciation at a guy driving a standard looking Saxo VTR at my local Tesco lately.
I didn't go off snorting about VXR full boost understeer or how they like to go on fire and I didn't shout Asbo at the Focus and didn't turn to my wife and start whining about French build quality etc etc. Granted, I wouldn't personally buy the Zafira but there are endless things I wouldn't buy by choice - but equally, I wouldn't cast it aside in a hail of negativity.
Well said, its great seeing cars like this now on the road, even if not your cuppa. I see this as I now see a lot of cars of that era... cars that went through a bit of an image issue, cars that dropped in value and were subsequently bought cheap, modified badly, thrashed and then usually ended up in a ditch, being seized by the Police or scrapped. However, that was then and to an extent, those days are fading into the history books and so now I have a fondness for stuff like this, respect and admiration.
It could almost be deemed a survivor... it's standard, it looks very tidy and it's not ridiculous money in the grand scale of things. If that drove past me, as a car guy, I'd turn and look because for those exact reasons. Same way I turned and look when I saw a standard Mk2 Focus ST last week and the same way in nodded in appreciation at a guy driving a standard looking Saxo VTR at my local Tesco lately.
I didn't go off snorting about VXR full boost understeer or how they like to go on fire and I didn't shout Asbo at the Focus and didn't turn to my wife and start whining about French build quality etc etc. Granted, I wouldn't personally buy the Zafira but there are endless things I wouldn't buy by choice - but equally, I wouldn't cast it aside in a hail of negativity.
1974foggy said:
Davie said:
I'm going to buck the trend as I don't in the fairly universal hate Vauxhalls get on here, more so performance ones and whilst I was a Vauxhall man back in the day, though my interest started to faded away after the Mk3 Cavalier / Mk3 Astra era (90's child and all that) as a car enthusiast in general, I can't see the need to automatically jump on the stereotype band wagon.
I see this as I now see a lot of cars of that era... cars that went through a bit of an image issue, cars that dropped in value and were subsequently bought cheap, modified badly, thrashed and then usually ended up in a ditch, being seized by the Police or scrapped. However, that was then and to an extent, those days are fading into the history books and so now I have a fondness for stuff like this, respect and admiration.
It could almost be deemed a survivor... it's standard, it looks very tidy and it's not ridiculous money in the grand scale of things. If that drove past me, as a car guy, I'd turn and look because for those exact reasons. Same way I turned and look when I saw a standard Mk2 Focus ST last week and the same way in nodded in appreciation at a guy driving a standard looking Saxo VTR at my local Tesco lately.
I didn't go off snorting about VXR full boost understeer or how they like to go on fire and I didn't shout Asbo at the Focus and didn't turn to my wife and start whining about French build quality etc etc. Granted, I wouldn't personally buy the Zafira but there are endless things I wouldn't buy by choice - but equally, I wouldn't cast it aside in a hail of negativity.
Well said, its great seeing cars like this now on the road, even if not your cuppa. I see this as I now see a lot of cars of that era... cars that went through a bit of an image issue, cars that dropped in value and were subsequently bought cheap, modified badly, thrashed and then usually ended up in a ditch, being seized by the Police or scrapped. However, that was then and to an extent, those days are fading into the history books and so now I have a fondness for stuff like this, respect and admiration.
It could almost be deemed a survivor... it's standard, it looks very tidy and it's not ridiculous money in the grand scale of things. If that drove past me, as a car guy, I'd turn and look because for those exact reasons. Same way I turned and look when I saw a standard Mk2 Focus ST last week and the same way in nodded in appreciation at a guy driving a standard looking Saxo VTR at my local Tesco lately.
I didn't go off snorting about VXR full boost understeer or how they like to go on fire and I didn't shout Asbo at the Focus and didn't turn to my wife and start whining about French build quality etc etc. Granted, I wouldn't personally buy the Zafira but there are endless things I wouldn't buy by choice - but equally, I wouldn't cast it aside in a hail of negativity.
Great usual bigoted socioeconomic stereotyping comments relating to who drives what....yawn
It's an mpv from a non premium brand with a sprinkling of performance that could provide a little fun in the life of some poor soul with too many offspring. Fair play to Vauxhall and Ford marketing departments having a sense of humour. Personally prefer an estate for family taxi duty.
It's an mpv from a non premium brand with a sprinkling of performance that could provide a little fun in the life of some poor soul with too many offspring. Fair play to Vauxhall and Ford marketing departments having a sense of humour. Personally prefer an estate for family taxi duty.
GreatScott2016 said:
1974foggy said:
Davie said:
I'm going to buck the trend as I don't in the fairly universal hate Vauxhalls get on here, more so performance ones and whilst I was a Vauxhall man back in the day, though my interest started to faded away after the Mk3 Cavalier / Mk3 Astra era (90's child and all that) as a car enthusiast in general, I can't see the need to automatically jump on the stereotype band wagon.
I see this as I now see a lot of cars of that era... cars that went through a bit of an image issue, cars that dropped in value and were subsequently bought cheap, modified badly, thrashed and then usually ended up in a ditch, being seized by the Police or scrapped. However, that was then and to an extent, those days are fading into the history books and so now I have a fondness for stuff like this, respect and admiration.
It could almost be deemed a survivor... it's standard, it looks very tidy and it's not ridiculous money in the grand scale of things. If that drove past me, as a car guy, I'd turn and look because for those exact reasons. Same way I turned and look when I saw a standard Mk2 Focus ST last week and the same way in nodded in appreciation at a guy driving a standard looking Saxo VTR at my local Tesco lately.
I didn't go off snorting about VXR full boost understeer or how they like to go on fire and I didn't shout Asbo at the Focus and didn't turn to my wife and start whining about French build quality etc etc. Granted, I wouldn't personally buy the Zafira but there are endless things I wouldn't buy by choice - but equally, I wouldn't cast it aside in a hail of negativity.
Well said, its great seeing cars like this now on the road, even if not your cuppa. I see this as I now see a lot of cars of that era... cars that went through a bit of an image issue, cars that dropped in value and were subsequently bought cheap, modified badly, thrashed and then usually ended up in a ditch, being seized by the Police or scrapped. However, that was then and to an extent, those days are fading into the history books and so now I have a fondness for stuff like this, respect and admiration.
It could almost be deemed a survivor... it's standard, it looks very tidy and it's not ridiculous money in the grand scale of things. If that drove past me, as a car guy, I'd turn and look because for those exact reasons. Same way I turned and look when I saw a standard Mk2 Focus ST last week and the same way in nodded in appreciation at a guy driving a standard looking Saxo VTR at my local Tesco lately.
I didn't go off snorting about VXR full boost understeer or how they like to go on fire and I didn't shout Asbo at the Focus and didn't turn to my wife and start whining about French build quality etc etc. Granted, I wouldn't personally buy the Zafira but there are endless things I wouldn't buy by choice - but equally, I wouldn't cast it aside in a hail of negativity.
Strugs said:
GreatScott2016 said:
1974foggy said:
Davie said:
I'm going to buck the trend as I don't in the fairly universal hate Vauxhalls get on here, more so performance ones and whilst I was a Vauxhall man back in the day, though my interest started to faded away after the Mk3 Cavalier / Mk3 Astra era (90's child and all that) as a car enthusiast in general, I can't see the need to automatically jump on the stereotype band wagon.
I see this as I now see a lot of cars of that era... cars that went through a bit of an image issue, cars that dropped in value and were subsequently bought cheap, modified badly, thrashed and then usually ended up in a ditch, being seized by the Police or scrapped. However, that was then and to an extent, those days are fading into the history books and so now I have a fondness for stuff like this, respect and admiration.
It could almost be deemed a survivor... it's standard, it looks very tidy and it's not ridiculous money in the grand scale of things. If that drove past me, as a car guy, I'd turn and look because for those exact reasons. Same way I turned and look when I saw a standard Mk2 Focus ST last week and the same way in nodded in appreciation at a guy driving a standard looking Saxo VTR at my local Tesco lately.
I didn't go off snorting about VXR full boost understeer or how they like to go on fire and I didn't shout Asbo at the Focus and didn't turn to my wife and start whining about French build quality etc etc. Granted, I wouldn't personally buy the Zafira but there are endless things I wouldn't buy by choice - but equally, I wouldn't cast it aside in a hail of negativity.
Well said, its great seeing cars like this now on the road, even if not your cuppa. I see this as I now see a lot of cars of that era... cars that went through a bit of an image issue, cars that dropped in value and were subsequently bought cheap, modified badly, thrashed and then usually ended up in a ditch, being seized by the Police or scrapped. However, that was then and to an extent, those days are fading into the history books and so now I have a fondness for stuff like this, respect and admiration.
It could almost be deemed a survivor... it's standard, it looks very tidy and it's not ridiculous money in the grand scale of things. If that drove past me, as a car guy, I'd turn and look because for those exact reasons. Same way I turned and look when I saw a standard Mk2 Focus ST last week and the same way in nodded in appreciation at a guy driving a standard looking Saxo VTR at my local Tesco lately.
I didn't go off snorting about VXR full boost understeer or how they like to go on fire and I didn't shout Asbo at the Focus and didn't turn to my wife and start whining about French build quality etc etc. Granted, I wouldn't personally buy the Zafira but there are endless things I wouldn't buy by choice - but equally, I wouldn't cast it aside in a hail of negativity.
I think they are pretty good for what they are. An old Zafira is a decent family bus.
The usual PH Vauxhall BS out today...
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