RE: Tesla Roadster Sport | Spotted

RE: Tesla Roadster Sport | Spotted

Wednesday 27th November

Tesla Roadster Sport | Spotted

Another Roadster looks very unlikely now - the original seems to remain highly prized...


It’ll be interesting - and that’s underselling it just a tad - to see what happens with the evolution and progress of Tesla given Elon Musk’s new role in the US Department of Government Efficiency. That fact certainly seems no stranger yet, even if the impact will inevitably soften with time. Whether the speculation around government contracts for Tesla and SpaceX becomes reality isn’t yet clear; but if the role of Tesla in Musk’s empire does change, it’ll surely push development and expansion of the car line-up down the list of priorities. 

Which would be great news for those competitors still trying to catch up, if less appealing for those who might fancy a new Model S after a dozen years of the first one. Or, of course, the many people who wanted a second generation of Roadster, first previewed all the way back in 2017. It was a familiar Tesla model launch, with wild claims and bold promises; in being little different to before, we expected the car to follow not soon after. And yet there’s still no sign. Arguably it looks less likely than ever to happen, given what’s happened in US politics in the past few weeks and Musk’s recent admission it isn’t a huge priority any longer. But let’s see - a Cybertruck happened, for crying out loud, so Tesla can probably get anything it wants to production if keen enough.

We’re still not holding out a huge amount of hope for now, however, which is a shame as the EV world surely needs more cars like the Roadster - and fewer like the Cybertruck.  If up at supercar money, the Roadster seemed like it might show that EVs could be properly fun as sports cars - and not weigh three tonnes. As it’s happened, it seems more likely that we’ll see battery-powered Porsche 718s before the next Roadster, and that definitely didn’t seem the case half a dozen years ago. The uncertainty around the next one, and what has felt like a very slow trickle of genuinely fun EVs, has made the original Roadster look all the more innovative. When electric cars were considered a joke by many, here was a two-seat, two-door sports car that was fast, drove well, and - by the standards of the era - had a decent enough range. A decade and a half later, it looks like more of an achievement than the late '00s, even allowing for the progress made since then. 

Which might help explain why secondhand values are so strong - what was dismissed as an Elise with batteries stuffed in was a trailblazer. There are three currently for sale on PH, all with six-figure asking prices. This one is notable as a right-hand drive Signature Sport, the more powerful and driver focused variant that followed later in the Roadster’s life. It got a bit more power, adjustable coilovers and an AP Racing brake setup; as number #222 of 250 made, moreover, it’s one of the last. 

It has been used as well, clocking up almost 50,000 miles since 2010 with one owner who bought it new in Knightsbridge. The ad suggests it’s still in excellent condition, with an extensive service history and a recent overhaul ‘providing further evidence of the care and maintenance programme’. All very encouraging. The sort of person who bought a Roadster Sport in 2010 won’t have done so by chance, so you’d like to think they would have obsessed over caring for their rare groove sports car. 

Now owning a Tesla Roadster will cost almost £150,000, more even than the original purchase price with inflation factored in. And it’ll still be a tad tricky to charge. But then the last car we wrote about two years ago, newer and with fewer miles, was offered at more than £200k; it does seem like these prices are here to stay. So if Roadsters aren’t really depreciating, perhaps now is the time to satisfy any lingering curiosity. If it keeps its value, the money could maybe go to a new one - when it happens…


SPECIFICATION | TESLA ROADSTER SPORT

Engine: Single electric motor, 53kWh lithium-ion battery
Transmission: Single-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 288
Torque (lb ft): 295
MPG: N/A
CO2: 0g/km (local emissions)
Year registered: 2010
Recorded mileage: 46,000
Price new: c. £90k
Yours for: £145,000

See the original advert here

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LotusOmega375D

Original Poster:

8,145 posts

161 months

Wednesday 27th November
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I bet that goes like a rocket.

ducnick

1,938 posts

251 months

Wednesday 27th November
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A 14 yr old Tesla….to put it into context, It would have been on sale the same time as the iPhone 5. Can you imagine how long the batteries last now? Presumably you can only drive it with a very long extension lead.
I guess it might make for an interesting resto mod if you had an old rover K series engine laying around or fancied cutting up a new Tesla model 3. Can’t really understand the price on it. If anything I would have thought it would be worth less than a similar age/condition lotus Elise.
Maybe it’s the going into space connection that increases the price. Presumably a used nasa moon buggy isn’t cheap either.

Edited by ducnick on Wednesday 27th November 16:57

p4cks

7,021 posts

207 months

Wednesday 27th November
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I've never noticed this before, but that side profile looks remarkably like an Evora



j555

148 posts

236 months

Wednesday 27th November
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Certainly a trailblazer, and it has had some use, even if that only averages about 3,200 per annum.

I guess it would be an interesting car to have in a collection but I think most people would be far better served by an Elise if they wanted a sports car to use.

If they wanted an EV (but not a sports car) to do some miles in, there are any number of alternatives for a fraction of that price. Some such as the Hyundai IONIQ 5 N, are even meant to be pretty good to drive, will be far more practical and have a significantly greater range.

An IONIQ 5 N and an Elise would probably be quite a nice 2 car garage actually, and you could get both for about half the asking price for this Tesla.

Edited by j555 on Wednesday 27th November 15:17

Evil.soup

3,715 posts

213 months

Wednesday 27th November
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I like the original concept, but at this money, you may as well just get a sorted Exige. Yes, I know its about the powertrain, but it is probably past its best and would cost another 30k to replace the battery probably...total guess by the way just based on other similar EV costs, could be more or less but around that ball park.

All that said, this is the way I envisaged the EV going back in the day, not a luxury transit van with 5 seats kind of thing....

Robertb

2,127 posts

246 months

Wednesday 27th November
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If prices keep going up it will be worth a mission to space to retrieve the one Elon launched...

66HFM

506 posts

33 months

Wednesday 27th November
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I just remember Mr Clarkson on Top Gear driving one of these around the Top Gear Track, or was it 2 of them as they broke the first one...

DaveyBoyWonder

2,776 posts

182 months

Wednesday 27th November
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66HFM said:
I just remember Mr Clarkson on Top Gear driving one of these around the Top Gear Track, or was it 2 of them as they broke the first one...
Didn't one set on fire or did I imagine it. Either way, I can imagine plenty of other more exciting ways to go quick for £150k...

Baldchap

8,423 posts

100 months

Wednesday 27th November
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DaveyBoyWonder said:
66HFM said:
I just remember Mr Clarkson on Top Gear driving one of these around the Top Gear Track, or was it 2 of them as they broke the first one...
Didn't one set on fire or did I imagine it. Either way, I can imagine plenty of other more exciting ways to go quick for £150k...
Much as I wouldn't have another Tesla given, IIRC Tesla took legal action as TG repeatedly lied about the car.

otolith

59,300 posts

212 months

Wednesday 27th November
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ducnick said:
A 14 yr old Tesla….to put it into context, It would have been on sale the same time as the iPhone 5. Can you imagine how long the batteries last now? Presumably you can only drive it with a very long extension lead.
I guess it might make for an interesting resto mod if you had an old rover K series engine laying around or fancied cutting up a new Tesla model 3. Can’t really understand the price on it. If anything I would have thought it would be worth less than a similar age/condition lotus Elise.
If it does 150 miles on a charge, it's had about 300 charge cycles. A 14 year old iPhone would have had more like 5000 charge cycles. The battery cooling and management systems are obviously not even vaguely comparable.

Tesla have been offered a battery upgrade to a newer pack with more range (replacing the 53kWh pack with an 80kWh pack) and the same weight for it for some years, which I assume is the replacement pack they will sell you now. There is at least one third party provider in the US offering a pack with about the original capacity and a 125kg weight saving and a smaller pack with a 180kg saving. Obviously not cheap, but they aren't cheap cars.

CG2020UK

2,075 posts

48 months

Wednesday 27th November
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DaveyBoyWonder said:
66HFM said:
I just remember Mr Clarkson on Top Gear driving one of these around the Top Gear Track, or was it 2 of them as they broke the first one...
Didn't one set on fire or did I imagine it. Either way, I can imagine plenty of other more exciting ways to go quick for £150k...
I thought the BBC had been well caught out that this was all faked just for entertainment

WPA

10,281 posts

122 months

Wednesday 27th November
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CG2020UK said:
DaveyBoyWonder said:
66HFM said:
I just remember Mr Clarkson on Top Gear driving one of these around the Top Gear Track, or was it 2 of them as they broke the first one...
Didn't one set on fire or did I imagine it. Either way, I can imagine plenty of other more exciting ways to go quick for £150k...
I thought the BBC had been well caught out that this was all faked just for entertainment
By all accounts it was in the script that no matter what happens the car must break down, the Tesla delivery saw the script and reported back

https://topgear.fandom.com/wiki/Tesla_Roadster_Rev...

p1stonhead

27,319 posts

175 months

Wednesday 27th November
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p4cks said:
I've never noticed this before, but that side profile looks remarkably like an Evora


You know it is a Lotus Elise right?…..

kambites

68,495 posts

229 months

Wednesday 27th November
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CG2020UK said:
I thought the BBC had been well caught out that this was all faked just for entertainment
When was the last time any feature of Top Gear was anything other than this?

aarondbs

868 posts

154 months

Wednesday 27th November
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This is don't understand!! You could have an excellent ICE Elise for 20k or spend a bit more and buy a Supercst. Just doesn't make any sense!

fooman

231 posts

72 months

Wednesday 27th November
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I like it, but with it's age, rarity and price it is probably more suitable as a museum piece than the best example of an EV sports car you can buy for £145K.

EV8

138 posts

11 months

Wednesday 27th November
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If it was 15k, it would be 3x too expensive. This is for people that like to fantasize licking Musks cinnamon ring.
Hate it. And him smile

otolith

59,300 posts

212 months

Wednesday 27th November
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fooman said:
I like it, but with it's age, rarity and price it is probably more suitable as a museum piece than the best example of an EV sports car you can buy for £145K.
Not sure there actually is another example. A few GTs.

ChocolateFrog

28,897 posts

181 months

Wednesday 27th November
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Tesla isn't going anywhere and this is genesis.

Will probably be worth a million quid in 20 years time.

cerb4.5lee

33,798 posts

188 months

Wednesday 27th November
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So EVs do actually appreciate in value then?

I never thought I'd see the day to be honest, because generally they're closely associated with heavy depreciation from what I read/hear to be fair.