RE: Jaguar unveils 'fearless' Type 00 in Miami
Discussion
Dino550 said:
I was watching a vid involving Carl Hartley recently. Not for long because he is a bit annoying. He hit the nail on the head for me “Who ever lusted after an EV?”. Hit the nail on the head.
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Think it may have been Tom Hartley - but what do they know about selling real cars in volume whilst meeting emission targets ? The square root of f all. .
page3 said:
It’s a concept, not a car.
Their car, if they survive long enough to build one, may or may not look similar. Right now though they don’t make cars, which is rather a problem.
The more mundane/watered down the production version looks, the less credibility they'll have re the whole avant-garde/copy nothing spiel they've marketed. Their car, if they survive long enough to build one, may or may not look similar. Right now though they don’t make cars, which is rather a problem.
Love reading others opinions - whilst we should all have opinions I find discussion about design really interesting.
I do think it’s very bold, and making a statement. So happy to see something that has quite extreme proportions and when you walk around the car it has quite a lot of form despite the ‘flat’ feeling you get from the static images. It’s also refreshing to see so much restraint. The detailing is minimal in an era where a lot of cars have everything chucked onto them.
It also ticks my ocd box - they’ve done really well on some of the surface resolution. Quite a few areas where it looks simple but it’s incredibly difficult to do.
Well done Jaguar.
I do think it’s very bold, and making a statement. So happy to see something that has quite extreme proportions and when you walk around the car it has quite a lot of form despite the ‘flat’ feeling you get from the static images. It’s also refreshing to see so much restraint. The detailing is minimal in an era where a lot of cars have everything chucked onto them.
It also ticks my ocd box - they’ve done really well on some of the surface resolution. Quite a few areas where it looks simple but it’s incredibly difficult to do.
Well done Jaguar.
Edited by thepritch on Tuesday 3rd December 08:18
Edited by thepritch on Tuesday 3rd December 08:19
covmutley said:
I know it's a prototype, but it looks too big for uk roads, the 23 inch wheels with rubber bands will be terrible on uk roads and the butterfly doors impractical. So I wonder how watered down it will become.
It’s a concept, not a prototype. This is unlikely a runner and won’t go on the road, most likely not even road legal. It’s purpose to introduce and exaggerate the design language the production cars will eventually use.
Parker introducing Lady Penelopes car to the world. 🤦🏻♂️
The same people saying they love it no doubt decry and dismiss the angular lines of the Cyber truck. They have clearly allowed the DEI staff to take control and its a mess, their target market is a tiny one of what most people would say are oddballs. Will it be as unreliable as their past models?
Used prices will be in the £30k mark after 2 years, if that, just like most cars in this price bracket.
The same people saying they love it no doubt decry and dismiss the angular lines of the Cyber truck. They have clearly allowed the DEI staff to take control and its a mess, their target market is a tiny one of what most people would say are oddballs. Will it be as unreliable as their past models?
Used prices will be in the £30k mark after 2 years, if that, just like most cars in this price bracket.
I quite like the general shape of that. It's a big coupé with a long bonnet, at the end of the day. If they'd released it in BRG with a bunch of big cat imagery there'd be a strong contingent of Jag traditionalist on here (the ones who aren't diehard EV haters) who would have been all over it. It almost feels like they started with something quite traditionalist until someone good at working committees managed to persuade their colleagues into a change of approach partway through, hence the ad and the pink paint job.
This marketing campaign has made people notice Jag who didn't previously. There is no denying that. Question is whether that translates into sales.
This marketing campaign has made people notice Jag who didn't previously. There is no denying that. Question is whether that translates into sales.
GT9 said:
SDK said:
Old Jag is gone - get over it !
Weird seeing people on here salivating at the prospect of them failing.Similar situation to Lotus, really. What they were doing wasn't working (commercially) so they need to try something different.
As a current Jag owner (X351 XJ so I'm already in a minority) I love it, particularly the rear 3/4 view.
Most electric cars are amorphous blobs, so it's great to see Jag doing something so striking.
However, my first thought was how great it would be with the supercharged V8 under the bonnet.... Echoes of the first new SLR.
Most electric cars are amorphous blobs, so it's great to see Jag doing something so striking.
However, my first thought was how great it would be with the supercharged V8 under the bonnet.... Echoes of the first new SLR.
SpartaThisIs said:
Parker introducing Lady Penelopes car to the world. ???????
The same people saying they love it no doubt decry and dismiss the angular lines of the Cyber truck. They have clearly allowed the DEI staff to take control and its a mess, their target market is a tiny one of what most people would say are oddballs. Will it be as unreliable as their past models?
Used prices will be in the £30k mark after 2 years, if that, just like most cars in this price bracket.
I'd love to know where the £30k two year old EV's are, that were £100k+ new?The same people saying they love it no doubt decry and dismiss the angular lines of the Cyber truck. They have clearly allowed the DEI staff to take control and its a mess, their target market is a tiny one of what most people would say are oddballs. Will it be as unreliable as their past models?
Used prices will be in the £30k mark after 2 years, if that, just like most cars in this price bracket.
People keep mentioning them, but I can't see any ! [Looks like they actually start from £50k+]
Edited by SDK on Tuesday 3rd December 08:43
The whole marketing thing whilst working a treat just makes me feel sad.
The concept has a lot of merit. Using the flexibility of the EV platform to create the shape all design students lusted for.
Now, like a mk1 Audi TT they need to deliver this concept in reality. 23” wheels are doable. So do it…
Obviously there are details and ideas that won’t translate but the generally the shape, proportions, stance etc are all possible.
High hopes.
Keep the faith.
Gerry isn’t my favourite designer but he has delivered great exterior design in reality for LR…
The concept has a lot of merit. Using the flexibility of the EV platform to create the shape all design students lusted for.
Now, like a mk1 Audi TT they need to deliver this concept in reality. 23” wheels are doable. So do it…
Obviously there are details and ideas that won’t translate but the generally the shape, proportions, stance etc are all possible.
High hopes.
Keep the faith.
Gerry isn’t my favourite designer but he has delivered great exterior design in reality for LR…
Edited by Quickmoose on Tuesday 3rd December 13:23
Whatever123 said:
People who get upset by a font!?
get a grip...
People who get upset at people who get upset over a font... 
Everything is designed; absolutely everything.
A reaction to the shape of a car is equally valid as a reaction to a typeface. A design at any scale can resonate positively or negatively; it's subjective.
Wills2 said:
S366 said:
ElsieDriver said:
Looks a bit basic, like ‘my first art deco coupe’, but if it becomes a cut-price Rolls Spectre then cool.
It’ll be priced at the same price point as a Rolls Royce AFAIK.If they were going to try and take on the Taycan that would have been a stretch but RR? They are smoking some very strong stuff.
Instead, at under £150k, we must grapple with the notion that Jaguar’s four-door electric GT will eventually need to contend with the likes of the Porsche Taycan, only slightly less reliant on volume than the saloons that preceded it
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