RE: Jaguar unveils 'fearless' Type 00 in Miami

RE: Jaguar unveils 'fearless' Type 00 in Miami

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devnull

3,819 posts

167 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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Can’t wait to see one in black on black on black parked half on a kerb in a new build estate.

Kawasicki

13,569 posts

245 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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Best proportions of any car in decades. Love it.

ds666

2,897 posts

189 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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Dino550 said:
I was watching a vid involving Carl Hartley recently. Not for long because he is a bit annoying. He hit the nail on the head for me “Who ever lusted after an EV?”. Hit the nail on the head.
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Think it may have been Tom Hartley - but what do they know about selling real cars in volume whilst meeting emission targets ? The square root of f all.

g3org3y

21,323 posts

201 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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page3 said:
It’s a concept, not a car.

Their car, if they survive long enough to build one, may or may not look similar. Right now though they don’t make cars, which is rather a problem.
The more mundane/watered down the production version looks, the less credibility they'll have re the whole avant-garde/copy nothing spiel they've marketed.

thepritch

1,264 posts

175 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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Love reading others opinions - whilst we should all have opinions I find discussion about design really interesting.

I do think it’s very bold, and making a statement. So happy to see something that has quite extreme proportions and when you walk around the car it has quite a lot of form despite the ‘flat’ feeling you get from the static images. It’s also refreshing to see so much restraint. The detailing is minimal in an era where a lot of cars have everything chucked onto them.

It also ticks my ocd box - they’ve done really well on some of the surface resolution. Quite a few areas where it looks simple but it’s incredibly difficult to do.

Well done Jaguar.

Edited by thepritch on Tuesday 3rd December 08:18


Edited by thepritch on Tuesday 3rd December 08:19

Dashnine

1,546 posts

60 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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covmutley said:
I know it's a prototype, but it looks too big for uk roads, the 23 inch wheels with rubber bands will be terrible on uk roads and the butterfly doors impractical. So I wonder how watered down it will become.
It’s a concept, not a prototype. This is unlikely a runner and won’t go on the road, most likely not even road legal.

It’s purpose to introduce and exaggerate the design language the production cars will eventually use.

S600BSB

6,248 posts

116 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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Incredible looking thing. Hope it is a huge success for them.

Otispunkmeyer

13,210 posts

165 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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C69 said:
The Miami presentation is already on YouTube.

Looks fantastic in the flesh. I'll have a pink one. (Though it does look stunning in the steel/blue)

SpartaThisIs

96 posts

41 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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Parker introducing Lady Penelopes car to the world. 🤦🏻‍♂️

The same people saying they love it no doubt decry and dismiss the angular lines of the Cyber truck. They have clearly allowed the DEI staff to take control and its a mess, their target market is a tiny one of what most people would say are oddballs. Will it be as unreliable as their past models?

Used prices will be in the £30k mark after 2 years, if that, just like most cars in this price bracket.

TopTrump

3,354 posts

184 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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I like the profile of it. It sure has got people talking about it smile

kambites

68,674 posts

231 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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To my eyes it's awful as it is, but I can sort of see what they're going for and by the time it's been heavily watered down for production I think it might work.

SDK

1,385 posts

263 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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ChemicalChaos said:
I'd hoped the leaks were wrong and what was unveiled wouldn't be quite so in-your-face awful.
I was wrong.

[Img]https://i.imgur.com/jszkBY4.jpeg[/thumb]
Old Jag is gone - get over it !


dunnoreally

1,186 posts

118 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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I quite like the general shape of that. It's a big coupé with a long bonnet, at the end of the day. If they'd released it in BRG with a bunch of big cat imagery there'd be a strong contingent of Jag traditionalist on here (the ones who aren't diehard EV haters) who would have been all over it. It almost feels like they started with something quite traditionalist until someone good at working committees managed to persuade their colleagues into a change of approach partway through, hence the ad and the pink paint job.

This marketing campaign has made people notice Jag who didn't previously. There is no denying that. Question is whether that translates into sales.

GT9

7,797 posts

182 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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SDK said:
Old Jag is gone - get over it !
Weird seeing people on here salivating at the prospect of them failing.

kambites

68,674 posts

231 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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GT9 said:
SDK said:
Old Jag is gone - get over it !
Weird seeing people on here salivating at the prospect of them failing.
Whilst I agree that some people do seem to have that attitude, I don't think that quote is an example. I think SDK was pointing out that they are already failing so they need to change, and radically, if they're going to survive.

Similar situation to Lotus, really. What they were doing wasn't working (commercially) so they need to try something different.

callahan

900 posts

216 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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As a current Jag owner (X351 XJ so I'm already in a minority) I love it, particularly the rear 3/4 view.

Most electric cars are amorphous blobs, so it's great to see Jag doing something so striking.

However, my first thought was how great it would be with the supercharged V8 under the bonnet.... Echoes of the first new SLR.

SDK

1,385 posts

263 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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SpartaThisIs said:
Parker introducing Lady Penelopes car to the world. ???????

The same people saying they love it no doubt decry and dismiss the angular lines of the Cyber truck. They have clearly allowed the DEI staff to take control and its a mess, their target market is a tiny one of what most people would say are oddballs. Will it be as unreliable as their past models?

Used prices will be in the £30k mark after 2 years, if that, just like most cars in this price bracket.
I'd love to know where the £30k two year old EV's are, that were £100k+ new?
People keep mentioning them, but I can't see any ! [Looks like they actually start from £50k+]

Edited by SDK on Tuesday 3rd December 08:43

Quickmoose

4,799 posts

133 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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The whole marketing thing whilst working a treat just makes me feel sad.
The concept has a lot of merit. Using the flexibility of the EV platform to create the shape all design students lusted for.
Now, like a mk1 Audi TT they need to deliver this concept in reality. 23” wheels are doable. So do it…
Obviously there are details and ideas that won’t translate but the generally the shape, proportions, stance etc are all possible.
High hopes.
Keep the faith.
Gerry isn’t my favourite designer but he has delivered great exterior design in reality for LR…

Edited by Quickmoose on Tuesday 3rd December 13:23

username_checksout

147 posts

10 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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Whatever123 said:
People who get upset by a font!? rofl get a grip...
People who get upset at people who get upset over a font...

Everything is designed; absolutely everything.

A reaction to the shape of a car is equally valid as a reaction to a typeface. A design at any scale can resonate positively or negatively; it's subjective.

Pintofbest

836 posts

120 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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Wills2 said:
S366 said:
ElsieDriver said:
Looks a bit basic, like ‘my first art deco coupe’, but if it becomes a cut-price Rolls Spectre then cool.
It’ll be priced at the same price point as a Rolls Royce AFAIK.
Well the they are buggered then, because they will not sell any, you cannot reimagine yourself from failing to sell £50k cars to succeeding to sell £400k+ cars, Maserati can't sell the new EV GT in any meaningful numbers but they are cheap by comparison at £200k.

If they were going to try and take on the Taycan that would have been a stretch but RR? They are smoking some very strong stuff.
Reading the article would help:

Instead, at under £150k, we must grapple with the notion that Jaguar’s four-door electric GT will eventually need to contend with the likes of the Porsche Taycan, only slightly less reliant on volume than the saloons that preceded it