RE: £10k Bentley Continental GT | Spotted

RE: £10k Bentley Continental GT | Spotted

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pSyCoSiS

3,825 posts

216 months

Thursday 13th March
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A lot of car for the money.

I actually picked one up early 2023 for £9k. Blue with magnolia hide.

On collection, the EML came on, so I got some money knocked off (original deal was agreed at £9750).

Drove ok, but with a light hesitation. Took to my Bentley specialist, and it needed a new MAF and hose was cracked. Got those replaced and it drove better.

However, I just never gelled with it. Sounded nice, interior was a decent place to be with good quality finishing. But just made me feel a bit numb.

To me, didn't feel rapid (also had an F10 M5 with 700bhp at the time, therefore it was slow compared to that).

It liked a drink, but still had a bit of old school Bentley charm about it. I didn't dislike it, I just didn't love it.

Also had a Continental Flying Spur in 2022, and I felt the same way about that.

There always seems to be something that needs doing on them, and any work on these is never cheap.


Shnozz

28,451 posts

282 months

Thursday 13th March
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pSyCoSiS said:
A lot of car for the money.

I actually picked one up early 2023 for £9k. Blue with magnolia hide.

On collection, the EML came on, so I got some money knocked off (original deal was agreed at £9750).

Drove ok, but with a light hesitation. Took to my Bentley specialist, and it needed a new MAF and hose was cracked. Got those replaced and it drove better.

However, I just never gelled with it. Sounded nice, interior was a decent place to be with good quality finishing. But just made me feel a bit numb.

To me, didn't feel rapid (also had an F10 M5 with 700bhp at the time, therefore it was slow compared to that).

It liked a drink, but still had a bit of old school Bentley charm about it. I didn't dislike it, I just didn't love it.

Also had a Continental Flying Spur in 2022, and I felt the same way about that.

There always seems to be something that needs doing on them, and any work on these is never cheap.
I borrowed a friends one for a while and agree it doesn’t feel rapid to any degree. Also handled like a boat but had to remind myself it’s very much a big GT.

Still quite fancy a later one mind.

Stick Legs

6,693 posts

176 months

Thursday 13th March
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As a former XJ-S V12 owner when I was in my twenties these occupy the same territory that they used to.

The most exotic engine, at the time, that the man on the street can afford for small hatchback money.
The first major issue will consume the purchase price of the car.
Styling and image that are divisive, both the XJ-S & the Continental GT have an air of provincial nightclub owner about them.
Appalling fuel economy.
Parts shared with far lesser cars, British Leyland in the case of the XJ-S, Deutches Leyland (sorry VAG), in the case of the CGT.
Too many made to become valuable classics.
Many will be seen rotting on driveways.
Incredibly capable and in many ways a better car then the equivalent Aston Martin or Ferrari. XJ-S vs Aston Martin V8 vs Ferrari 400 / CGT vs DB9 vs 612 Scaglietti.

They both remain wonderful things.








jackcactii

244 posts

49 months

Thursday 13th March
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No MOT advisory don't really mean much. Some proper wrecks make it through MOT anyway

J4CKO

43,703 posts

211 months

Thursday 13th March
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Shnozz said:
pSyCoSiS said:
A lot of car for the money.

I actually picked one up early 2023 for £9k. Blue with magnolia hide.

On collection, the EML came on, so I got some money knocked off (original deal was agreed at £9750).

Drove ok, but with a light hesitation. Took to my Bentley specialist, and it needed a new MAF and hose was cracked. Got those replaced and it drove better.

However, I just never gelled with it. Sounded nice, interior was a decent place to be with good quality finishing. But just made me feel a bit numb.

To me, didn't feel rapid (also had an F10 M5 with 700bhp at the time, therefore it was slow compared to that).

It liked a drink, but still had a bit of old school Bentley charm about it. I didn't dislike it, I just didn't love it.

Also had a Continental Flying Spur in 2022, and I felt the same way about that.

There always seems to be something that needs doing on them, and any work on these is never cheap.
I borrowed a friends one for a while and agree it doesn’t feel rapid to any degree. Also handled like a boat but had to remind myself it’s very much a big GT.

Still quite fancy a later one mind.
Interested to see they dont feel all that rapid, but looking at the figures, 0-100 mph in 10.9, though still fairly quick, can see why its not mind blowing as thats not as quick as a standard M140i which does it in 9.9, that Supersports one I went in did feel pretty fast.

Think the smart money is on a later v8 one for 25/30 grand.

Definite buyers market for stuff like this at the moment though, talking to a friend who has an Aston Martin and he could not get shut of it, ended up part exing it against a lovely Jag XK 5.0, last of the line, had to put cash to it to get the Jag, he had one before and just prefers them. His Aston was for sale for like a year, another one locally, I knew the owner of that one who passed away has been for sale since he died nearly three years ago.

pSyCoSiS

3,825 posts

216 months

Thursday 13th March
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WPA said:
POORCARDEALER said:
If you are unlucky with your purchase these are ruinous - some pipe issue that’s a common failure is engine out £5k minimum.

Friend has one he bought for £13k, he’s had no issues in 2 years - that’s the gamble
Yes, the vacuum pipes are prone to cracking they run around the back of the engine over the gearbox, around £6k to replace but then most jobs on this is engine out.

It might be £10k but the first big bill could match that easily, might be me but these look so dated now.
Agreed. When I had my Flying Spur and it was at the specialist, he was telling me the common fail points and prices. Enough to scare anyone off!

Alternator / water pump can cost over £4.5k (the parts are around £500 each) and vacuum pipes are usually over £5k, due to the aforementioned engine out. Labour cost is the killer.

However, there are knowledgeable people out there who can replace items with the engine in situ, thus reducing the prices quite significantly.

Unreal

6,303 posts

36 months

Thursday 13th March
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Stick Legs said:
As a former XJ-S V12 owner when I was in my twenties these occupy the same territory that they used to.

The most exotic engine, at the time, that the man on the street can afford for small hatchback money.
The first major issue will consume the purchase price of the car.
Styling and image that are divisive, both the XJ-S & the Continental GT have an air of provincial nightclub owner about them.
Appalling fuel economy.
Parts shared with far lesser cars, British Leyland in the case of the XJ-S, Deutches Leyland (sorry VAG), in the case of the CGT.
Too many made to become valuable classics.
Many will be seen rotting on driveways.
Incredibly capable and in many ways a better car then the equivalent Aston Martin or Ferrari. XJ-S vs Aston Martin V8 vs Ferrari 400 / CGT vs DB9 vs 612 Scaglietti.

They both remain wonderful things.
I can identify with much of this. I had a number of V12 Jags and Daimlers from my twenties onwards. They are the broad equivalent in terms of their role and place in the market but the massive difference is that those V12s were both reliable and pretty easy to work on. I can remember changing the alternator on a Daimler Double Six on my drive in a few hours (with more support under it than the Forth bridge!). They were also free of the myriad sensors and electrical gizmos that you know will fail on cars like this Bentley. I worried about rust and leaks, never electrical or mechanical problems.

I think the only two versions of the Conti I would contemplate would be one like this for a couple of grand less, where if it broke, I'd out it broken and swallow the loss, or one where some poor sap has just spent £20K making one perfect, promptly died and left it for his widow to get rid of at any price.

Richard-390a0

2,755 posts

102 months

Thursday 13th March
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It maybe a £10k car but it still comes with the £100k car running costs.

I worked at an official Bentley retailer for a while & the joke was you got these in / out of the workshop as quickly as possible before something else went wrong with them!!!!

RandomCarChat

939 posts

58 months

Thursday 13th March
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I really fancy a Conti but would rather go down the 4.0 V8 route. Surely its slightly less ruinous laugh

pSyCoSiS

3,825 posts

216 months

Thursday 13th March
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RandomCarChat said:
I really fancy a Conti but would rather go down the 4.0 V8 route. Surely its slightly less ruinous laugh
Yes that 4.0 V8 is used in other VAG models and generally more reliable and easier to maintain than the W12.

But, they keep their value more due to this and are still £25k+ for earlier ones.

For the money, it is a lot of car. Even 10 years ago, these early W12 Conti GTs were selling for up to £30k.

So under £10k it's good value, providing it's a gamble which pays off. If it doesn't, you'll be into it very deep!

S600BSB

6,298 posts

117 months

Thursday 13th March
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Worth the risk for someone.

LuS1fer

42,170 posts

256 months

Thursday 13th March
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I always fancied one of these when they came down to 20k but then, at a show, I peered under the bonnet and by god, that's a tight fit.

No chance of any DIY in there! That's why I stuck with the Fiat Panda...

Shnozz

28,451 posts

282 months

Thursday 13th March
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J4CKO said:
Interested to see they dont feel all that rapid, but looking at the figures, 0-100 mph in 10.9, though still fairly quick, can see why its not mind blowing as thats not as quick as a standard M140i which does it in 9.9, that Supersports one I went in did feel pretty fast.

Think the smart money is on a later v8 one for 25/30 grand.

Definite buyers market for stuff like this at the moment though, talking to a friend who has an Aston Martin and he could not get shut of it, ended up part exing it against a lovely Jag XK 5.0, last of the line, had to put cash to it to get the Jag, he had one before and just prefers them. His Aston was for sale for like a year, another one locally, I knew the owner of that one who passed away has been for sale since he died nearly three years ago.
It’s perhaps just well masked by the soft suspension set up, sound deadening and the fact it’s generally built like a tank.

menousername

2,219 posts

153 months

Thursday 13th March
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If you were in the market for an early 4.0 engined one (I am not but always wondered) would it be a better prospect to veer off towards the equivalent Audi S8?

What I am asking in a long winded way is whether the scare stories are justified or driven by the badge. Would the Audi be any less expensive or less likely to go wrong etc.

soad

33,681 posts

187 months

Thursday 13th March
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ducnick said:
Might be cheaper to buy a pair at £10k each… one for spares
Just buy a better example, in the first place.

Baldchap

8,897 posts

103 months

Thursday 13th March
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We had a Supersport new in 2010 that we sold in about 2017. It didn't do mega mileage, but didn't cost us a bean other than routine servicing.

So there's a chance this won't be ruinous...

BOR

4,922 posts

266 months

Thursday 13th March
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I'm repeating what's already been said in the thread, but the running cost of these cars(not just this Bentley but in Astons, Maseratis, M5s etc) are so high in comparison to the purchase price/depreciation/financing, that the overall yearly costs of running this one at GBP10k, aren't much different to the overall cost of a GBP20k one.

So the price goes into a viscious circle of having to be reduced even more, which then pulls down the price of the 20K one etc.

I think it could make sense at 5000 miles/year, where you DIY as much as possible, and are prepared to scrap it off if/when the inevitable happens.

Cryssys

628 posts

49 months

Thursday 13th March
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You've got to ask yourself one question. Do you feel lucky? Well, do you, punk?

el romeral

1,385 posts

148 months

Thursday 13th March
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Amazing car for the money. So £100,000 has been shed from its original purchase price in 20 years. These went up in my estimation after seeing James May and a rally driver really put one through its paces on a proper rally stage.

Shnozz

28,451 posts

282 months

Thursday 13th March
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BOR said:
I'm repeating what's already been said in the thread, but the running cost of these cars(not just this Bentley but in Astons, Maseratis, M5s etc) are so high in comparison to the purchase price/depreciation/financing, that the overall yearly costs of running this one at GBP10k, aren't much different to the overall cost of a GBP20k one.

So the price goes into a viscious circle of having to be reduced even more, which then pulls down the price of the 20K one etc.

I think it could make sense at 5000 miles/year, where you DIY as much as possible, and are prepared to scrap it off if/when the inevitable happens.
Does anyone have a real world experience of running a circa 2016/2017 facelift V8 CGT? Are they potentially almost as ruinous?