RE: Saab replaces million mile car

RE: Saab replaces million mile car

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seano

67 posts

204 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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pony said:
Polarbert said:
Alex said:
eccles said:
isn't an american million different to a british million, or am i getting confused and its the billions that are different.


A million (1,000,000) is the same either side of the Atlantic. The US billion (1,000,000,000) is now generally used. A UK billion used to be the same as a US trillion, which is a million million (1,000,000,000,000).

Did you know that a trillion fivers in a pile would reach 63 miles into the sky?



And the largest number known to man is called a Centillion. I wonder how they came up with that? And why nobody has made a larger one.



i thought it was a googolplex, which is a googol (100 digit number) times by another googol.

how much is a centillion?


A googol is 10 to the power of 100 and a googolplex is 10 to the power of a googol, which is much larger than a googol times a googol.
The largest number with a meaning in mathematics used to be Graham's Number, but undoubtedly something else now takes the crown.
A centillion is apparently a mere 10^303!

Adam B

20,975 posts

220 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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Frik said:
The article seems to suggest Saab were oblidged to give him a new car. Why? It's not as if he donated the car to their own museum.

confused


Agree not obliged - he has given them a hell of a lot of great free publicity for Saab cars reliability though.

DennisTheMenace

15,599 posts

234 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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That Daddy said:
trouble is that was saab then,couldent see the vauxhall/saab hybrids doing anything like that now.



Yep the 95 aero will be dead at 100k after an expensive module fails ,
if i was saab i still wouldnt have given the chap a car , why should they ?


so what does the 1st fat yank to eat 1 million bigmacs get ?

A free day in a mcdonalds ?

qwicksylva

530 posts

233 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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what about a googolplex and one, isn't that an even bigger number?



I'll get me coat....

mark r skinner

16,743 posts

183 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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seano said:
pony said:
Polarbert said:
Alex said:
eccles said:
isn't an american million different to a british million, or am i getting confused and its the billions that are different.


A million (1,000,000) is the same either side of the Atlantic. The US billion (1,000,000,000) is now generally used. A UK billion used to be the same as a US trillion, which is a million million (1,000,000,000,000).

Did you know that a trillion fivers in a pile would reach 63 miles into the sky?



And the largest number known to man is called a Centillion. I wonder how they came up with that? And why nobody has made a larger one.



i thought it was a googolplex, which is a googol (100 digit number) times by another googol.

how much is a centillion?


A googol is 10 to the power of 100 and a googolplex is 10 to the power of a googol, which is much larger than a googol times a googol.
The largest number with a meaning in mathematics used to be Graham's Number, but undoubtedly something else now takes the crown.
A centillion is apparently a mere 10^303!
Prob something like "Keith`s Number"?

900T-R

20,380 posts

223 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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DennisTheMenace said:
That Daddy said:
trouble is that was saab then,couldent see the vauxhall/saab hybrids doing anything like that now.



Yep the 95 aero will be dead at 100k after an expensive module fails ,



DI cassette? £150, about 60 seconds install time and Bob's your uncle. Think of all the rotors, caps and ignition wires you'd have worn out in 100,000 miles...

DennisTheMenace said:

so what does the 1st fat yank to eat 1 million bigmacs get ?

A free day in a mcdonalds ?


A fairly major heart attack and subsequent bypass surgery, I'd wager to guess.

Frik

12,849 posts

209 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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euroboy said:
He has given Saab a heck of a lot of publicity and I can imagine the car would be pretty useful to Saab for R&D purposes?

Can't see why myself.

900T-R

20,380 posts

223 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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euroboy said:


At the end of the day what does a 9-5 Aero actually cost Saab to produce? Not a lot me thinks.


Less than that classic 900 cost to build at any rate - at 100 hrs build time it was just about the most inefficient non-bespoke car to produce even back then... If you ever took one of these apart you'd appreciate how the Swedes couldn't ever turn a profit on it by the late Eighties... truly reliable it ain't but conversely it's built to withstand just about anything short of a nuclear war...

Road_Terrorist

5,591 posts

208 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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Frik said:
The article seems to suggest Saab were oblidged to give him a new car. Why? It's not as if he donated the car to their own museum.

confused



What about the shedloads of free, not to mention very positive, publicity worldwide in the media? To buy that sort of airtime coverage would cost a huge amount of money, and most people would ignore it anyway, not to mention even more free publicity they get by giving him the car. Giving a free car to anyone else who makes a million miles is also more free positive publicity (eg. look how reliable saabs are, and how kind we are offering free cars) for frankly not doing much at all.

They didn't have to give him a car, but it was a pretty good marketing decision for them to do so.

Frik

12,849 posts

209 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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Road_Terrorist said:
They didn't have to give him a car, but it was a pretty good marketing decision for them to do so.

Certainly. I just didn't care for the tone of the article.

Mind you is all the publicity going to be good? There's a real "they don't build them like they used to" feeling to this story...

Frik

12,849 posts

209 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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Like a new one but a bit more worn.

And the use of that would be?

housemaster

2,040 posts

193 months

Friday 5th January 2007
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And all along I was telling everyone it was a Vigintillion. Bloody Guiness Book of Answers 1982 has a lot to answer for!

unrepentant

20,347 posts

222 months

Saturday 6th January 2007
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Theres a Volvo out there with 2m if I recall correctly. A mate of mine had a 740 that did 450k. It was mechanically still fine when he scrapped it but the rust was becoming a bit obvious.

Fiddlemesticks

11,790 posts

182 months

Saturday 6th January 2007
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I'm not sure theres any value in sticking a million miles on a car just to get a new one.

At my calcs i'm thinking it would cost:

£150,000 in fuel
£17,000 in bog standard services
£20,000 in tyres
£3,000 on Magic Trees

MJK 24

5,535 posts

202 months

Saturday 6th January 2007
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Frik said:
euroboy said:
He has given Saab a heck of a lot of publicity and I can imagine the car would be pretty useful to Saab for R&D purposes?

Can't see why myself.


Are you being serious?!

To see how the shell has suffered with stress cracks from prolonged use for one...

I know of a Mercedes and a VW bought back by their manufacturers with silly high miles for the very reason of R&D...

Frik

12,849 posts

209 months

Saturday 6th January 2007
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Fatigue - good point.

Less wine for me please.

that daddy

17,900 posts

187 months

Saturday 6th January 2007
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MJK 24 said:
Frik said:
euroboy said:
He has given Saab a heck of a lot of publicity and I can imagine the car would be pretty useful to Saab for R&D purposes?

Can't see why myself.


Are you being serious?!

To see how the shell has suffered with stress cracks from prolonged use for one...

I know of a Mercedes and a VW bought back by their manufacturers with silly high miles for the very reason of R&D...

Are you serious, if they were worried about fatigue and stress they wouldent be using vauxhall components,i mean there not exactly bullit proof are they,as i said earlier that car was when Saabs were Saabs,boring maybe but tough.

chriso

954 posts

205 months

Saturday 6th January 2007
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So what's the general opinion of Saabs reliability these days? Been looking at 2-3 year old 9-3 Vector Sport Diesels, as they seem pretty cheap as comfortable as anything for soing loads of miles in.

Any thoughts appreciated...

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

175 months

Saturday 6th January 2007
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Saab suffered from quite good built quality in terms of body and interior etc.
So much so that people didn't but a new car they just got the old one repaired.
Hence Saab sales were poor and they got bought by GM.

new Saabs will not have the same problems.

they had head gasket issues under warranty so saab stopped dealers doing it. they added " retourquing" the head bilts to the PDI or 1st service.

95 manual box spits out 5th.
DI cassettes- almost worth carrying a spare.
Cam chains & ballancer chains at about 40k
While the motors our best to changethe turbo at the same time.
Quite an appetite for discs and pads and tyres esp the autos

I was Aftersales Manager in a Sasab dealership for a number of years and if i didn't give someone a legitimate bill for the thick end of £2k ever week I wasn't trying.

He may had done a million but he was either very lucky or he spent a fortune on doing it.
the old 900 used to crack their sumps and that was a powertrain removal " Ker-ching!"

900T-R

20,380 posts

223 months

Saturday 6th January 2007
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odyssey2200 said:


the old 900 used to crack their sumps and that was a powertrain removal " Ker-ching!"


Ehm, maybe it's not a good time for me to mention that the old 900 doesn't have a sump as such - the gearbox casing is the sump (and yes, these can crack when you overtorque the sump plug)?