RE: Shed Of The Week
Discussion
The 3.0 CiH is reasonably tuneable - although Lotus struggled to exceed the 100bhp/litre mark in 24v form, even after dropping the crappy dual ram injection. The head design on the 12v is shockingly poor - being non-crossflow. It also struggles to dissipate it's heat evenly.
However, the CiH is all iron, and immensely strong - originally having been fitted in 6-Cyl form to GM trucks in the '60s. I know of Manta Turbos running up to three bar boost without too many issues.
I had a GSi3000 - exactly the same engine.
Enlarged the capacity using the rods off a Rekord 2.4 diesel, and some pistons from something else which escapes my memory now. Came out at roughly 4000cc.
Supercharged it, running at 1.25bar, water/methanol injection, stage 3 Blydenstein head, Kent fast road cam, and Emerald 3d injection. With much faffing about, it made 280ish at the rear wheels - mainly down to the immense parasitic losses on the old Rootes blower.
The main issue with that engine is the weight - an all iron straight six is, umm, bloody heavy. Someone once told me it was over 190kgs with ancillaries!!
However, the CiH is all iron, and immensely strong - originally having been fitted in 6-Cyl form to GM trucks in the '60s. I know of Manta Turbos running up to three bar boost without too many issues.
I had a GSi3000 - exactly the same engine.
Enlarged the capacity using the rods off a Rekord 2.4 diesel, and some pistons from something else which escapes my memory now. Came out at roughly 4000cc.
Supercharged it, running at 1.25bar, water/methanol injection, stage 3 Blydenstein head, Kent fast road cam, and Emerald 3d injection. With much faffing about, it made 280ish at the rear wheels - mainly down to the immense parasitic losses on the old Rootes blower.
The main issue with that engine is the weight - an all iron straight six is, umm, bloody heavy. Someone once told me it was over 190kgs with ancillaries!!
B'stard Child said:
Nacnud][nerd said:
Did you know there is a 4WD Monza? They were made for patrolling the Berlin Wall and had gun racks in the boot.[/nerd]
Fergerson 4x4 conversion - owned by a Monza Specialist (one of two specialists for this car)Father in law still hs one under wraps with <50k miles on and he wants rid of it, unfortunately it's not a GSE :-(
I hate to say this but there aren't enough pics in this thread so i'm going to rectify that
Some from our continental cousins
Might want to get those stem seals sorted
White is always cool
Change wheels for instant win
Keep seeing that green one on ebay this one is a nicer green IMO
Again - Change wheels for instant win
I think this is a before
Big rod encouragement
Couple of odd ones
Leaving the door open makes a rubbish shot
Red one
Always good to have a few shots
Red - Tick
24V Engine - Tick
Ooh - not seen that done before - clever
Nasty spoiler
Front looks a bit better
Nice stance
I'd like to see more pics of this one
But found plenty of pics of this one
Ooooof just for those wheels
Chrome arches never my favorite look
You know when you've been tango'd
Or maybe a yella one would be better
Pretty std and tidy
Rubbish pics and the car is not to my taste either
Nice tidy and with those rare wheels
That'll do for starters might do a part two if people like.........
Some from our continental cousins
Might want to get those stem seals sorted
White is always cool
Change wheels for instant win
Keep seeing that green one on ebay this one is a nicer green IMO
Again - Change wheels for instant win
I think this is a before
Big rod encouragement
Couple of odd ones
Leaving the door open makes a rubbish shot
Red one
Always good to have a few shots
Red - Tick
24V Engine - Tick
Ooh - not seen that done before - clever
Nasty spoiler
Front looks a bit better
Nice stance
I'd like to see more pics of this one
But found plenty of pics of this one
Ooooof just for those wheels
Chrome arches never my favorite look
You know when you've been tango'd
Or maybe a yella one would be better
Pretty std and tidy
Rubbish pics and the car is not to my taste either
Nice tidy and with those rare wheels
That'll do for starters might do a part two if people like.........
Sod it I'll carry on
Dark horse and all the pictures I have
Front end is a bit wafty but overall not bad
Proud of a trophy tho......
Get out of the way I wanna see the car
Inside
Under bonnet (oh dear!!!)
Thats better - wheels are a bit "shep" (not sure he uses PH bit of an ABS joke)
Better engine pic
Red again
Under the hood
Back to white
Before
During - Oi BigRod what do you make of that!!!
What I want to find is an after!!!!!
Lighning McQueen (or stickers as he's better known)
Just for entertainment I have no idea why
Best till last maybe or maybe not
Maybe that's it maybe it's not
Dark horse and all the pictures I have
Front end is a bit wafty but overall not bad
Proud of a trophy tho......
Get out of the way I wanna see the car
Inside
Under bonnet (oh dear!!!)
Thats better - wheels are a bit "shep" (not sure he uses PH bit of an ABS joke)
Better engine pic
Red again
Under the hood
Back to white
Before
During - Oi BigRod what do you make of that!!!
What I want to find is an after!!!!!
Lighning McQueen (or stickers as he's better known)
Just for entertainment I have no idea why
Best till last maybe or maybe not
Maybe that's it maybe it's not
I was going to say 'best shed ever',..but then I noticed in the add a word begining with A.........x10,000.
Whoever it is who has a thing about automatics can you stop picking the Shed Of The Week..,...that's why the car is priced at £900 hundred and whatever, because it has the less desirable gearbox,-(put it to a vote and tell me it's not true!!) If this car had a manual gearbox it would'nt be in the three figure bracket, meaning it would'nt even be here.
I thought this car was too good to be true when I first saw it, sadly I was proven correct..x10million.
I'm getting sick of seeing these auto 'lazybox' variants, is the same person who bought the Pistonheads auto Merc also resposible for this false dawn/hope.
I'm just so.. about this!
I fg hate auto's in cars like this!!, why it was ever put in this car is totally beyond me........
It's rear drive(tick), front engined(tick), looks a handsome cool car(tick) and is good manufacturer(tick), lets put an Automatic gearbox in it!!.., (DU DUUU!)....WRONG ANSWER!!
............WHY??..........
Whoever it is who has a thing about automatics can you stop picking the Shed Of The Week..,...that's why the car is priced at £900 hundred and whatever, because it has the less desirable gearbox,-(put it to a vote and tell me it's not true!!) If this car had a manual gearbox it would'nt be in the three figure bracket, meaning it would'nt even be here.
I thought this car was too good to be true when I first saw it, sadly I was proven correct..x10million.
I'm getting sick of seeing these auto 'lazybox' variants, is the same person who bought the Pistonheads auto Merc also resposible for this false dawn/hope.
I'm just so.. about this!
I fg hate auto's in cars like this!!, why it was ever put in this car is totally beyond me........
It's rear drive(tick), front engined(tick), looks a handsome cool car(tick) and is good manufacturer(tick), lets put an Automatic gearbox in it!!.., (DU DUUU!)....WRONG ANSWER!!
............WHY??..........
B'stard Child said:
I hate to say this but there aren't enough pics in this thread so i'm going to rectify that
Some from our continental cousins
Might want to get those stem seals sorted
White is always cool
Change wheels for instant win
Keep seeing that green one on ebay this one is a nicer green IMO
Again - Change wheels for instant win
I think this is a before
Big rod encouragement
Couple of odd ones
Leaving the door open makes a rubbish shot
Red one
Always good to have a few shots
Red - Tick
24V Engine - Tick
Ooh - not seen that done before - clever
Nasty spoiler
Front looks a bit better
Nice stance
I'd like to see more pics of this one
But found plenty of pics of this one
Ooooof just for those wheels
Chrome arches never my favorite look
You know when you've been tango'd
Or maybe a yella one would be better
Pretty std and tidy
Rubbish pics and the car is not to my taste either
Nice tidy and with those rare wheels
That'll do for starters might do a part two if people like.........
Have you got enough pictures up??..Some from our continental cousins
Might want to get those stem seals sorted
White is always cool
Change wheels for instant win
Keep seeing that green one on ebay this one is a nicer green IMO
Again - Change wheels for instant win
I think this is a before
Big rod encouragement
Couple of odd ones
Leaving the door open makes a rubbish shot
Red one
Always good to have a few shots
Red - Tick
24V Engine - Tick
Ooh - not seen that done before - clever
Nasty spoiler
Front looks a bit better
Nice stance
I'd like to see more pics of this one
But found plenty of pics of this one
Ooooof just for those wheels
Chrome arches never my favorite look
You know when you've been tango'd
Or maybe a yella one would be better
Pretty std and tidy
Rubbish pics and the car is not to my taste either
Nice tidy and with those rare wheels
That'll do for starters might do a part two if people like.........
I take it your a big fan of the car!.
Some really nice cars in there.., although white cars are definatly not always cool, especially if you've got to clean the buggers every five minutes!!..
I ran an Opel GSi for a while and found it a comfy cruiser, if a tad hefty on fuel.
A pity that GM never really developed it - a few iterations on and it could have been highly desirable.
The same is true for the Calibra - a good-looker that was killed while still in the queue for some magic dust...
A pity that GM never really developed it - a few iterations on and it could have been highly desirable.
The same is true for the Calibra - a good-looker that was killed while still in the queue for some magic dust...
Will do. Previously had an Ultima with a V8 Chevy in it, then a Holden with a V8 Chevy in it, now currently a Range Rover with a V8 in it... see a pattern here? Have to see if its a worthy donor car first and LS3's are just starting to become available. Memories from my Manta A with a Rover V8 in it were that the chassis rails either side were quite narrow so will have to check but plenty of transplant options are available now such as Lexus V8 (one in the classifieds) or possibly a RS6 etc. Lets get her home first and see what is needs to get it straight.
[quote=SS HSV]Will do. Previously had an Ultima with a V8 Chevy in it, then a Holden with a V8 Chevy in it, now currently a Range Rover with a V8 in it... see a pattern here? Have to see if its a worthy donor car first and LS3's are just starting to become available. Memories from my Manta A with a Rover V8 in it were that the chassis rails either side were quite narrow so will have to check but plenty of transplant options are available now such as Lexus V8 (one in the classifieds) or possibly a RS6 etc. Lets get her home first and see what is needs to get it straight.[/qNuote]
I think chevy made a car called the monza looked very similar to the opel not sure if it had the same shell or what was under the bonnet anyone have any ideal ?
I think chevy made a car called the monza looked very similar to the opel not sure if it had the same shell or what was under the bonnet anyone have any ideal ?
There is one on Car and Classic for £2850 - and it looks nowhere near as nice as the example found by SOTW!
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C44335?pt=pf
Not my cup of tea, but, I can see the appeal for the 3.0 models.
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C44335?pt=pf
Not my cup of tea, but, I can see the appeal for the 3.0 models.
I do like old Opels.
My Dad had a white Opel Rekord Berlina between 1984 and 1990.
My Grandfather had a Vauxhall Viceroy for a while in the late 80s.
My first car was a Manta Berlinetta, which I replaced with a white GT/E Coupe
I was an area rep for the Manta club in the 1990s.
Shame the Mantas suffered horribly from rust, and it didn't help Vauxhall not providing spares after about 7 years.
I sold mine about 7 years ago
Manta prices have shot up recently though.
My Dad had a white Opel Rekord Berlina between 1984 and 1990.
My Grandfather had a Vauxhall Viceroy for a while in the late 80s.
My first car was a Manta Berlinetta, which I replaced with a white GT/E Coupe
I was an area rep for the Manta club in the 1990s.
Shame the Mantas suffered horribly from rust, and it didn't help Vauxhall not providing spares after about 7 years.
I sold mine about 7 years ago
Manta prices have shot up recently though.
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