what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

Author
Discussion

Rich_AR

1,643 posts

181 months

Friday 8th April
quotequote all
ATM said:
jonny996 said:
Fast Bug said:
jonny996 said:
my horn has stopped working but I still get a beep if I lock with glove box open, is that the same horn?

Anyway is this a common issue & hopefully cheap to fix.
Glovebox? Flash bd!
When I say glove box I mean that thing in the center arm rest, in fact i am now questioning my self, does it have a glovebox in front of passanger! once I am off this call I will have to go and check

Defo need to spend more time in that car
996.2 got a lockable glove box in the dash and twin cup holders below the air vent.
and a 3.6 engine. If so, get out of this thread. silly


stuckmojo said:
Now I need to buy that manual too!

My 996 is coming out of storage after 9 years at the end of this month.

one of the very first to come to the UK, zenith, no sunroof Carrera 2 manual with Savannah (which I am in the minority who love).

I drove it a couple of years back and did rads and coil packs then, so off it goes on a trailer to the best man in Stockton for all fluids, major service, MOT (plus an annoying issue with the steering wheel column not adjusting) and then back to me for May.

I plan to drive it just for pleasure occasionally.

Glad I kept it.

Will post photos when back from the workshop
Pics soon!

jonny996

2,440 posts

194 months

Saturday 9th April
quotequote all
Nope my 3.4 membership is still valid, no cup holders in my car😂, it’s going to be 7 years come MOT on this one.

CrunkleFloop

702 posts

222 months

Tuesday 12th April
quotequote all
Not sure what the spec code is for this.

996 Picnic wine cooler option.


shalmaneser

5,300 posts

172 months

Tuesday 12th April
quotequote all
CrunkleFloop said:
Not sure what the spec code is for this.

996 Picnic wine cooler option.

Was it part of the lightweight carpets package?

CrunkleFloop

702 posts

222 months

Wednesday 13th April
quotequote all
shalmaneser said:
Was it part of the lightweight carpets package?
Haha,

Absolutely! It is part of Porsche's flow-formed leichtbau composite series in Lizard Green... and definitely NOT a bucket from Asda.

crxdave

149 posts

137 months

Tuesday 26th April
quotequote all
Hi all, I'm a couple of months into 996 ownership and really enjoying it (can't believe I waited so long to get one!). Few little bits to do on the car to get it up to standard mechanically, but otherwise just hoping to enjoy driving the thing!


ATM

14,697 posts

196 months

Tuesday 26th April
quotequote all
Hello
Hello
Hello

Glad you're enjoying it. They look like 997 wheels. Just want to point out they have a different offset to standard 996 wheels. This means the wheels are 7mm more inward on the front. This can affect the steering and make it a bit nervous or twitchy. Easily corrected with some spacers.

Anyway I don't want to sound like I'm slagging your car off as that's not my intention. Just sharing the knowledge or can't help being a nerd - whichever you prefer.

delays

755 posts

192 months

Tuesday 26th April
quotequote all
crxdave said:
Hi all, I'm a couple of months into 996 ownership and really enjoying it (can't believe I waited so long to get one!). Few little bits to do on the car to get it up to standard mechanically, but otherwise just hoping to enjoy driving the thing!

Zenith Blue is a favourite of mine.

shalmaneser

5,300 posts

172 months

Tuesday 26th April
quotequote all
ATM said:
Hello
Hello
Hello

Glad you're enjoying it. They look like 997 wheels. Just want to point out they have a different offset to standard 996 wheels. This means the wheels are 7mm more inward on the front. This can affect the steering and make it a bit nervous or twitchy. Easily corrected with some spacers.

Anyway I don't want to sound like I'm slagging your car off as that's not my intention. Just sharing the knowledge or can't help being a nerd - whichever you prefer.
I'm running 15mm spacers with those wheels, gives a nice 8mm additional front spacing which I think looks great.

stuckmojo

2,495 posts

165 months

Wednesday 27th April
quotequote all
ATM said:
I also like Savannah. Probably because my first Porsche had it. Looks poor on a 9x7 with the silvery grey detailing but on the 9x6 with black detailing it works so well. I think it is exterior colour dependant and I'd prefer it on Darker coloured cars. Dont remember seeing it on a Zenith car so ... we need some pics man.


just off the trailer. Now the work begins to bring it back on the road - let's see how painful smile

crxdave

149 posts

137 months

Thursday 28th April
quotequote all
shalmaneser said:
ATM said:
Hello
Hello
Hello

Glad you're enjoying it. They look like 997 wheels. Just want to point out they have a different offset to standard 996 wheels. This means the wheels are 7mm more inward on the front. This can affect the steering and make it a bit nervous or twitchy. Easily corrected with some spacers.

Anyway I don't want to sound like I'm slagging your car off as that's not my intention. Just sharing the knowledge or can't help being a nerd - whichever you prefer.
I'm running 15mm spacers with those wheels, gives a nice 8mm additional front spacing which I think looks great.
Thanks guys, 7mm spacers already fitted! Shalmaneser - do you have a photo of how the wheels sit on yours with the 15mm spacers?

ATM

14,697 posts

196 months

Thursday 28th April
quotequote all
So my friend has a 996.2 - pic below of his with mine. I may of mentioned this before. Now I know this is not a gen 1 and therefore has no business being in this thread. But I wanted to share a little story about it and the owner and his experience and history with the car. This is quite relevant I think to the people here who like these cars, have one already or are thinking of getting one.

So lets start about 3 or 4 years ago. I had my 996 and I was loving it and kept telling him that I love it. After maybe 12 months of listening to me going on and on and on and .... he eventually caved in and decided to buy one. He did the usual car buying thing of trying to find one that he thought was good value. So he bought this one and the reason he gave was that it was in good condition and had been owned by the same guy for many years and he liked the colour scheme. Personally I didnt think it was a great car because it was a gen 2 - obviously - and because I didnt think the list of recent maintenance excited me. But he seemed very pleased with his purchase and I guess that's the most important thing with car buying. We can only give so much advice and sometimes people might not want to listen to it.

At first he enjoyed the car. Then he took it to see a Porsche mechanic he knows well after owning an early Cayenne V8 for 4 or 5 years. The first service included some extras - but Ï cant remember the exact order so lets just say that over the next 2 years he had lots of work done to the car including discs and pads, spark plugs and coils, water pump and belts, rads and ac condensers, some extra ac pipes running along the bottom of the car, brake pipes - rigid and flexis - and finally a clutch. So at this point he was into the car for about 6 or 7 thousand in bills for bits and pieces.

Then we had the lock down and the car went into hibernation away from his home for over 12 months. As we came out of lock down I had been busy buying more Porsches and he was still without his Porsche. He started moaning about it to me, talking about selling it and generally not feeling the love. I persuaded him - or he decided to - go and get the car and spend some time with it before making a decision to keep it or sell it. He kept sending me ads for 997 cars and still generally not feeling the love. I pressed him for some concrete reasons why he didnt like the car and we got down to a little list of niggles which were annoying him -

Seat Rubbish
Some sort of weird diff lash or gearbox problem - coming on and off the throttle while changing gear
Some vibration from the wheels / tyres / drivetrain
Some vagueness in the feel of the car - quote 'not exactly sporty'

So we started trying to work through them one by on. All along the way he kept talking about selling and not wanting to spend too much as he was of the view he should sell it but I kept chipping away.

Long story short - well I will shorten the end - he is now in love with the car. I now get videos form him talking about how the car behaves mid bend, how he can feel the weight transfer coming on and off the throttle going into and coming out of a bend etc etc etc.

If anyone is interested what the cause of his problems were and how they were fixed -

Seat Rubbish - now has 997 seats

Some sort of weird diff lash or gearbox problem - coming on and off the throttle while changing gear - turned out the Dual Mass Flywheel was shot and should have been changed when he had the clutch changed but was missed by his 'trusted' mechanic

Some vibration from the wheels / tyres / drivetrain - replaced all wheels and tyres

Some vagueness in the feel of the car - quote 'not exactly sporty' - the vagueness improved when he changed to correct 996 wheels from 997 wheels - wrong offsets - but the main change was all new arms, bumps stops and tie rods for the front suspension. He didn't want to go mad - financially - so kept the original shocks and springs but basically changed everything else.

When he was at his lowest with the car he was thinking of worse case scenarios being he needed all of the following -

Full Gearbox Rebuild
All new suspension parts
Firmer coil over type dampers and bushes and roll bars etc



HughG

3,337 posts

218 months

Thursday 28th April
quotequote all
I’m glad he’s enjoying it now. You’ve not helped my thoughts of moving my 17” 10spokes on instead of getting tyres for them though.

ATM

14,697 posts

196 months

Thursday 28th April
quotequote all
HughG said:
I’m glad he’s enjoying it now. You’ve not helped my thoughts of moving my 17” 10spokes on instead of getting tyres for them though.
I'll buy them if you're selling. If you need some more inspiration to keep then look here


ATM

14,697 posts

196 months

Thursday 28th April
quotequote all
Above was pre spacers - Below is with 15mm spacers on front




nebpor

980 posts

212 months

Thursday 28th April
quotequote all
Glad to hear it - it's really easy to see how people can become quickly disillusioned when a 911 isn't running/handling well

Slippydiff

13,468 posts

200 months

Thursday 28th April
quotequote all
nebpor said:
Glad to hear it - it's really easy to see how people can become quickly disillusioned when a 911 isn't running/handling well
A poorly set up 996 (or indeed any 911) with tired suspension and a poorly maintained powertrain is a woeful experience to drive.

shalmaneser

5,300 posts

172 months

Thursday 28th April
quotequote all
crxdave said:
Thanks guys, 7mm spacers already fitted! Shalmaneser - do you have a photo of how the wheels sit on yours with the 15mm spacers?


Not perfect angle but it gives an idea. That's with m030 suspension so 10mm drop.

stuckmojo

2,495 posts

165 months

Friday 6th May
quotequote all


And there she is after almost nine years in storage.

Major service, all belts and fluids, runs perfect.

A few things to do in the near future:

- A new set of mufflers - I'll go with Top Gear as I have now seen how they are in the flesh on a car which had them on for 8 years. Look new and sound great.

- Steering wheel looks grubby - I'll do a deep clean but most likely I'll have it refurbed properly
- Air con had a leak. Or maybe just sitting that long it just died off. I'll have a go at regassing with a DIY can and if it leaks I'll do the condensers. Not a spendy job
- Rear break lines are starting to rust. I'll get these done
- Ignition switch is starting to be a bit sticky - it's a £15 piece and easy enough DIY

None of which will stop me from enjoying it massively now that I have it close to home, insured, taxed and MOTd.

Happy days.!

I'll post some more glam photos. The owner of the garage which says NO parking doesn't mind before you put me in the bad parking thread.

OnTheBreadline

12,885 posts

157 months

Friday 6th May
quotequote all
Your number plate has gone weird from lack of daylight.