what is an 'early' 3.4 996?
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Hello
Hello
Hello
Glad you're enjoying it. They look like 997 wheels. Just want to point out they have a different offset to standard 996 wheels. This means the wheels are 7mm more inward on the front. This can affect the steering and make it a bit nervous or twitchy. Easily corrected with some spacers.
Anyway I don't want to sound like I'm slagging your car off as that's not my intention. Just sharing the knowledge or can't help being a nerd - whichever you prefer.
Hello
Hello
Glad you're enjoying it. They look like 997 wheels. Just want to point out they have a different offset to standard 996 wheels. This means the wheels are 7mm more inward on the front. This can affect the steering and make it a bit nervous or twitchy. Easily corrected with some spacers.
Anyway I don't want to sound like I'm slagging your car off as that's not my intention. Just sharing the knowledge or can't help being a nerd - whichever you prefer.
ATM said:
Hello
Hello
Hello
Glad you're enjoying it. They look like 997 wheels. Just want to point out they have a different offset to standard 996 wheels. This means the wheels are 7mm more inward on the front. This can affect the steering and make it a bit nervous or twitchy. Easily corrected with some spacers.
Anyway I don't want to sound like I'm slagging your car off as that's not my intention. Just sharing the knowledge or can't help being a nerd - whichever you prefer.
I'm running 15mm spacers with those wheels, gives a nice 8mm additional front spacing which I think looks great.Hello
Hello
Glad you're enjoying it. They look like 997 wheels. Just want to point out they have a different offset to standard 996 wheels. This means the wheels are 7mm more inward on the front. This can affect the steering and make it a bit nervous or twitchy. Easily corrected with some spacers.
Anyway I don't want to sound like I'm slagging your car off as that's not my intention. Just sharing the knowledge or can't help being a nerd - whichever you prefer.
ATM said:
I also like Savannah. Probably because my first Porsche had it. Looks poor on a 9x7 with the silvery grey detailing but on the 9x6 with black detailing it works so well. I think it is exterior colour dependant and I'd prefer it on Darker coloured cars. Dont remember seeing it on a Zenith car so ... we need some pics man.
just off the trailer. Now the work begins to bring it back on the road - let's see how painful
shalmaneser said:
ATM said:
Hello
Hello
Hello
Glad you're enjoying it. They look like 997 wheels. Just want to point out they have a different offset to standard 996 wheels. This means the wheels are 7mm more inward on the front. This can affect the steering and make it a bit nervous or twitchy. Easily corrected with some spacers.
Anyway I don't want to sound like I'm slagging your car off as that's not my intention. Just sharing the knowledge or can't help being a nerd - whichever you prefer.
I'm running 15mm spacers with those wheels, gives a nice 8mm additional front spacing which I think looks great.Hello
Hello
Glad you're enjoying it. They look like 997 wheels. Just want to point out they have a different offset to standard 996 wheels. This means the wheels are 7mm more inward on the front. This can affect the steering and make it a bit nervous or twitchy. Easily corrected with some spacers.
Anyway I don't want to sound like I'm slagging your car off as that's not my intention. Just sharing the knowledge or can't help being a nerd - whichever you prefer.
So my friend has a 996.2 - pic below of his with mine. I may of mentioned this before. Now I know this is not a gen 1 and therefore has no business being in this thread. But I wanted to share a little story about it and the owner and his experience and history with the car. This is quite relevant I think to the people here who like these cars, have one already or are thinking of getting one.
So lets start about 3 or 4 years ago. I had my 996 and I was loving it and kept telling him that I love it. After maybe 12 months of listening to me going on and on and on and .... he eventually caved in and decided to buy one. He did the usual car buying thing of trying to find one that he thought was good value. So he bought this one and the reason he gave was that it was in good condition and had been owned by the same guy for many years and he liked the colour scheme. Personally I didnt think it was a great car because it was a gen 2 - obviously - and because I didnt think the list of recent maintenance excited me. But he seemed very pleased with his purchase and I guess that's the most important thing with car buying. We can only give so much advice and sometimes people might not want to listen to it.
At first he enjoyed the car. Then he took it to see a Porsche mechanic he knows well after owning an early Cayenne V8 for 4 or 5 years. The first service included some extras - but Ï cant remember the exact order so lets just say that over the next 2 years he had lots of work done to the car including discs and pads, spark plugs and coils, water pump and belts, rads and ac condensers, some extra ac pipes running along the bottom of the car, brake pipes - rigid and flexis - and finally a clutch. So at this point he was into the car for about 6 or 7 thousand in bills for bits and pieces.
Then we had the lock down and the car went into hibernation away from his home for over 12 months. As we came out of lock down I had been busy buying more Porsches and he was still without his Porsche. He started moaning about it to me, talking about selling it and generally not feeling the love. I persuaded him - or he decided to - go and get the car and spend some time with it before making a decision to keep it or sell it. He kept sending me ads for 997 cars and still generally not feeling the love. I pressed him for some concrete reasons why he didnt like the car and we got down to a little list of niggles which were annoying him -
Seat Rubbish
Some sort of weird diff lash or gearbox problem - coming on and off the throttle while changing gear
Some vibration from the wheels / tyres / drivetrain
Some vagueness in the feel of the car - quote 'not exactly sporty'
So we started trying to work through them one by on. All along the way he kept talking about selling and not wanting to spend too much as he was of the view he should sell it but I kept chipping away.
Long story short - well I will shorten the end - he is now in love with the car. I now get videos form him talking about how the car behaves mid bend, how he can feel the weight transfer coming on and off the throttle going into and coming out of a bend etc etc etc.
If anyone is interested what the cause of his problems were and how they were fixed -
Seat Rubbish - now has 997 seats
Some sort of weird diff lash or gearbox problem - coming on and off the throttle while changing gear - turned out the Dual Mass Flywheel was shot and should have been changed when he had the clutch changed but was missed by his 'trusted' mechanic
Some vibration from the wheels / tyres / drivetrain - replaced all wheels and tyres
Some vagueness in the feel of the car - quote 'not exactly sporty' - the vagueness improved when he changed to correct 996 wheels from 997 wheels - wrong offsets - but the main change was all new arms, bumps stops and tie rods for the front suspension. He didn't want to go mad - financially - so kept the original shocks and springs but basically changed everything else.
When he was at his lowest with the car he was thinking of worse case scenarios being he needed all of the following -
Full Gearbox Rebuild
All new suspension parts
Firmer coil over type dampers and bushes and roll bars etc
So lets start about 3 or 4 years ago. I had my 996 and I was loving it and kept telling him that I love it. After maybe 12 months of listening to me going on and on and on and .... he eventually caved in and decided to buy one. He did the usual car buying thing of trying to find one that he thought was good value. So he bought this one and the reason he gave was that it was in good condition and had been owned by the same guy for many years and he liked the colour scheme. Personally I didnt think it was a great car because it was a gen 2 - obviously - and because I didnt think the list of recent maintenance excited me. But he seemed very pleased with his purchase and I guess that's the most important thing with car buying. We can only give so much advice and sometimes people might not want to listen to it.
At first he enjoyed the car. Then he took it to see a Porsche mechanic he knows well after owning an early Cayenne V8 for 4 or 5 years. The first service included some extras - but Ï cant remember the exact order so lets just say that over the next 2 years he had lots of work done to the car including discs and pads, spark plugs and coils, water pump and belts, rads and ac condensers, some extra ac pipes running along the bottom of the car, brake pipes - rigid and flexis - and finally a clutch. So at this point he was into the car for about 6 or 7 thousand in bills for bits and pieces.
Then we had the lock down and the car went into hibernation away from his home for over 12 months. As we came out of lock down I had been busy buying more Porsches and he was still without his Porsche. He started moaning about it to me, talking about selling it and generally not feeling the love. I persuaded him - or he decided to - go and get the car and spend some time with it before making a decision to keep it or sell it. He kept sending me ads for 997 cars and still generally not feeling the love. I pressed him for some concrete reasons why he didnt like the car and we got down to a little list of niggles which were annoying him -
Seat Rubbish
Some sort of weird diff lash or gearbox problem - coming on and off the throttle while changing gear
Some vibration from the wheels / tyres / drivetrain
Some vagueness in the feel of the car - quote 'not exactly sporty'
So we started trying to work through them one by on. All along the way he kept talking about selling and not wanting to spend too much as he was of the view he should sell it but I kept chipping away.
Long story short - well I will shorten the end - he is now in love with the car. I now get videos form him talking about how the car behaves mid bend, how he can feel the weight transfer coming on and off the throttle going into and coming out of a bend etc etc etc.
If anyone is interested what the cause of his problems were and how they were fixed -
Seat Rubbish - now has 997 seats
Some sort of weird diff lash or gearbox problem - coming on and off the throttle while changing gear - turned out the Dual Mass Flywheel was shot and should have been changed when he had the clutch changed but was missed by his 'trusted' mechanic
Some vibration from the wheels / tyres / drivetrain - replaced all wheels and tyres
Some vagueness in the feel of the car - quote 'not exactly sporty' - the vagueness improved when he changed to correct 996 wheels from 997 wheels - wrong offsets - but the main change was all new arms, bumps stops and tie rods for the front suspension. He didn't want to go mad - financially - so kept the original shocks and springs but basically changed everything else.
When he was at his lowest with the car he was thinking of worse case scenarios being he needed all of the following -
Full Gearbox Rebuild
All new suspension parts
Firmer coil over type dampers and bushes and roll bars etc
And there she is after almost nine years in storage.
Major service, all belts and fluids, runs perfect.
A few things to do in the near future:
- A new set of mufflers - I'll go with Top Gear as I have now seen how they are in the flesh on a car which had them on for 8 years. Look new and sound great.
- Steering wheel looks grubby - I'll do a deep clean but most likely I'll have it refurbed properly
- Air con had a leak. Or maybe just sitting that long it just died off. I'll have a go at regassing with a DIY can and if it leaks I'll do the condensers. Not a spendy job
- Rear break lines are starting to rust. I'll get these done
- Ignition switch is starting to be a bit sticky - it's a £15 piece and easy enough DIY
None of which will stop me from enjoying it massively now that I have it close to home, insured, taxed and MOTd.
Happy days.!
I'll post some more glam photos. The owner of the garage which says NO parking doesn't mind before you put me in the bad parking thread.
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