The 997 Appreciation Thread

[Joscal]

Octoposse said:

My 2007 3.6, pushing 80k on the clock, uses absolutely no oil between annual services and shows no sign of any other problems.

First owner always warmed it up properly and drove it hard. I warm it up properly and bimble along smelling the hedgerow flowers. Wouldn’t be surprised if the motor gets to 250k miles . . . and if it doesn’t I’ll get it rebuilt as a 3.9 (but, to be fair, easy for me to be blasé as it’s a few years into ownership . . . would have been a bugger in the first month or so!).

And is there any 15 year old performance car that doesn’t have a measurable statistical chance of suddenly costing you big money?

Probably true but I’ve had quite a few 911 and the 997 is the only one to lunch the engine!

Poor form from Porsche and quite how they got away with it in the UK is beyond me. They didn’t in America..

[Discombobulate]

Joscal said:

Probably true but I’ve had quite a few 911 and the 997 is the only one to lunch the engine!

Poor form from Porsche and quite how they got away with it in the UK is beyond me. They didn’t in America..

They got hit for IMS bearing failure in America. Did they get hit for bore scoring too? I don't think they did.

[ooid]

Discombobulate said:

They got hit for IMS bearing failure in America. Did they get hit for bore scoring too? I don't think they did.

They surely got another hit by GT3 991.1 Owners though

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-gt3rs-gt2rs-an...

[Joscal]

Discombobulate said:

They got hit for IMS bearing failure in America. Did they get hit for bore scoring too? I don't think they did.

I may be wrong but I can remember at the time reading that Porsche would honour a new engine if it failed outside warranty in the US only.

It was years ago admittedly. I still think Porsche washed their hands of the issue though!

I’m in heavy plant and represent a few manufacturers and luckily they have stood over their equipment in similar circumstances. It happens, we had a bad batch of VW engines and we got brand new ones without quibble. Our customers would have been livid as would we if they expected us to pay. An engine should not implode at 20,000 miles imho.

[Midasman17]

Filibuster said:

cossers said:

ATM said:

cossers said:

Filibuster said:

ATM said:

The wear on those side bolster look immense for the mileage

One thing I did wonder about, driver possibly packing a few extra pounds? Does look pretty folded

Unsympathetic car cleaner sitting on the side bolster to tackle some interior jobs?

Possibly, more I look at the worse it gets!

The side bolster has lots of wear too....
The wear on this seat is untolerable for the mileage!

Also the aftermarket radio defies the point of a "time capsule", as new Porsche too. No mention of the original one coming with the car either.
Of course you can buy a used PCM, but this will have been touched for more than during 9k miles and it is not the one it left the factory with.

It was mine, yes a 17stone ex rugby player can do that to the seat! It went in when my GT3 arrived, very sorry to see it go. All original kit was with it. Used it pretty much every day for the last 2 years, didn't miss a beat, would have kept it if I had the room. Gone to sunny Scotland I think.

[Louis Balfour]

Midasman17 said:

Filibuster said:

cossers said:

ATM said:

cossers said:

Filibuster said:

ATM said:

The wear on those side bolster look immense for the mileage

One thing I did wonder about, driver possibly packing a few extra pounds? Does look pretty folded

Unsympathetic car cleaner sitting on the side bolster to tackle some interior jobs?

Possibly, more I look at the worse it gets!

The side bolster has lots of wear too....
The wear on this seat is untolerable for the mileage!

Also the aftermarket radio defies the point of a "time capsule", as new Porsche too. No mention of the original one coming with the car either.
Of course you can buy a used PCM, but this will have been touched for more than during 9k miles and it is not the one it left the factory with.

It was mine, yes a 17stone ex rugby player can do that to the seat! It went in when my GT3 arrived, very sorry to see it go. All original kit was with it. Used it pretty much every day for the last 2 years, didn't miss a beat, would have kept it if I had the room. Gone to sunny Scotland I think.

Porsche bolsters are prone to doing that. In equal parts its poor ingress / egress technique, design and leather quality. Some cars are worse than others.

Also don't take passengers with short legs and fat thighs.