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Discussion
5050 said:
Less is more I think.. If I specced my 4S again I would delete the following
Sports exhaust (although it looks better it was hard to tell noise wise from standard)
Burmester - mine sounded awful but there were some quality control problems on early cars. The Bose in my 992TS is far better.
PDCC & RAS
Vented seats
Wish I had specced the following
2S
-10mm PASM
Bose
Keyless entry.
Great so I have 3 out of 4 on your time again list, had enough of putting a key in a pouch.Sports exhaust (although it looks better it was hard to tell noise wise from standard)
Burmester - mine sounded awful but there were some quality control problems on early cars. The Bose in my 992TS is far better.
PDCC & RAS
Vented seats
Wish I had specced the following
2S
-10mm PASM
Bose
Keyless entry.
2S Cab:
Contemplated:
Chrono - don't think I've ever had a moment where I've thought "if only I had specc'd that"
PSE - visually like the 4 pipes and, being a cab, I can hear enough exhaust and didn't feel the change was worth the price
Sportex/ventilated - leather has been fine
14/18/sports seats - I find the standard seats comfortable. Quick forward/backwards is good for kids in the back. Thought I'd want the memory function, but missus hasn't really driven it.
Bose - went round in circles on this. Switched back and forth between two cars at OPC and wasn't convinced. There's a fair amount of road noise, so you need to be pushing volume before it makes a difference.
Spec'd:
Cruise - works well
Folding mirrors - not a lot to say, but might save losing one when parked
Heated steering wheel - nice in winter, warm not hot
Auto dimming mirrors/rain sensor - useful at night
Surround camera - it's an odd view, so habitually use my mirrors. However, wheel view is great for avoiding kerbs, and 'overhead view' is useful for markings/bays where you just can't see them. Deteriorates in the dark and wet.
Yellow - so glad I bought a colour! You can see so much exterior colour from inside.
If ordering again, I'd spec the same options. Possibly +Bose, but would need to a long drive, roof open/closed, motorway etc. to compare.
Contemplated:
Chrono - don't think I've ever had a moment where I've thought "if only I had specc'd that"
PSE - visually like the 4 pipes and, being a cab, I can hear enough exhaust and didn't feel the change was worth the price
Sportex/ventilated - leather has been fine
14/18/sports seats - I find the standard seats comfortable. Quick forward/backwards is good for kids in the back. Thought I'd want the memory function, but missus hasn't really driven it.
Bose - went round in circles on this. Switched back and forth between two cars at OPC and wasn't convinced. There's a fair amount of road noise, so you need to be pushing volume before it makes a difference.
Spec'd:
Cruise - works well
Folding mirrors - not a lot to say, but might save losing one when parked
Heated steering wheel - nice in winter, warm not hot
Auto dimming mirrors/rain sensor - useful at night
Surround camera - it's an odd view, so habitually use my mirrors. However, wheel view is great for avoiding kerbs, and 'overhead view' is useful for markings/bays where you just can't see them. Deteriorates in the dark and wet.
Yellow - so glad I bought a colour! You can see so much exterior colour from inside.
If ordering again, I'd spec the same options. Possibly +Bose, but would need to a long drive, roof open/closed, motorway etc. to compare.
Well I kept my spec to 10% but can’t confirm yet if I did it right until I collect in a few months.
- C2S
- Manual
- Carrera classic wheels
- 930 leather interior
- 14 way seats (need memory setting)
- Bose
- PSE
- Auto Dimming Mirrors
- Folding Mirrors
- Porsche Crests on seats
I have not driven a car without PSE so it was hard to tell if the car ‘needed it’. I deliberated on the Bose until I got to try it, but the wheels were the hardest choice...was really stuck on the standard wheels or the classics. Not a huge fan of diamond cut wheels but the wife thought they worked well with the chrome window trim.
- C2S
- Manual
- Carrera classic wheels
- 930 leather interior
- 14 way seats (need memory setting)
- Bose
- PSE
- Auto Dimming Mirrors
- Folding Mirrors
- Porsche Crests on seats
I have not driven a car without PSE so it was hard to tell if the car ‘needed it’. I deliberated on the Bose until I got to try it, but the wheels were the hardest choice...was really stuck on the standard wheels or the classics. Not a huge fan of diamond cut wheels but the wife thought they worked well with the chrome window trim.
jdwoodbury said:
Well I kept my spec to 10% but can’t confirm yet if I did it right until I collect in a few months.
- C2S
- Manual
- Carrera classic wheels
- 930 leather interior
- 14 way seats (need memory setting)
- Bose
- PSE
- Auto Dimming Mirrors
- Folding Mirrors
- Porsche Crests on seats
I have not driven a car without PSE so it was hard to tell if the car ‘needed it’. I deliberated on the Bose until I got to try it, but the wheels were the hardest choice...was really stuck on the standard wheels or the classics. Not a huge fan of diamond cut wheels but the wife thought they worked well with the chrome window trim.
Great spec. The only thing i’d add would be the -10mm ride height, purely for the look!- C2S
- Manual
- Carrera classic wheels
- 930 leather interior
- 14 way seats (need memory setting)
- Bose
- PSE
- Auto Dimming Mirrors
- Folding Mirrors
- Porsche Crests on seats
I have not driven a car without PSE so it was hard to tell if the car ‘needed it’. I deliberated on the Bose until I got to try it, but the wheels were the hardest choice...was really stuck on the standard wheels or the classics. Not a huge fan of diamond cut wheels but the wife thought they worked well with the chrome window trim.
P-G said:
2S Cab:
Chrono - don't think I've ever had a moment where I've thought "if only I had specc'd that"
Yellow - so glad I bought a colour! You can see so much exterior colour from inside.
Chrono - I have a few moments sat here thinking, why did I spend so much on that?Chrono - don't think I've ever had a moment where I've thought "if only I had specc'd that"
Yellow - so glad I bought a colour! You can see so much exterior colour from inside.
Yellow - awesome in the flesh and saves a few quid
but maybe not one for resaleRevHappy said:
Thanks for the suggestions.
I think the 10% idea is hard to do in reality, around 15% is probably more like it in true man maths.
Going RS alloys, for the style and not being black. 4-way sports plus seats are the rear ones will be used a lot. I think sports Chrono is now a must have residual wise.
My extras were pretty much spot on 10%, was a £102k car with the OTR bits. Yeah, RS Alloys were on my 'love those' list, opted for standards in the end. Just wish I'd had satin plat finish, would have looked great with the yellow.I think the 10% idea is hard to do in reality, around 15% is probably more like it in true man maths.
Going RS alloys, for the style and not being black. 4-way sports plus seats are the rear ones will be used a lot. I think sports Chrono is now a must have residual wise.
Chose your color, forget the rest of the options.
Maybe Sportex with contrasting stitching.
All the options are things your do not need.
At Silverstone the other day no one could catch our instructor in a base 992. No one.
The base car is loaded anyway. Its the one Porsche doesn't want to sell you.
The standard 4 way bucket seats are excellent.
The steel brakes are also excellent.
Launch is a waste of time. Unless you have shares in Michelin or you are 18 years old.
The 19/20 inch wheels are far more appropriate for the road than 20/21s and give good lift over speed bumps. Ask Gordon Murray.
The wheels are massive!
385 bhp is more than enough. I hardly ever get the chance to use full throttle and have completed 10,000 miles in a 992 now.
Forget the Sports exhaust, the standard square tipped exhaust sounds superb.
I often better 35 mpg and drive it daily.
With the money you save on "options" you can buy loads of whiskey.
If you want to get naughty Litchfield get you to 500 bhp for £995+vat, but your void your warranty and you do not need 500 bhp.
Maybe Sportex with contrasting stitching.
All the options are things your do not need.
At Silverstone the other day no one could catch our instructor in a base 992. No one.
The base car is loaded anyway. Its the one Porsche doesn't want to sell you.
The standard 4 way bucket seats are excellent.
The steel brakes are also excellent.
Launch is a waste of time. Unless you have shares in Michelin or you are 18 years old.
The 19/20 inch wheels are far more appropriate for the road than 20/21s and give good lift over speed bumps. Ask Gordon Murray.
The wheels are massive!
385 bhp is more than enough. I hardly ever get the chance to use full throttle and have completed 10,000 miles in a 992 now.
Forget the Sports exhaust, the standard square tipped exhaust sounds superb.
I often better 35 mpg and drive it daily.
With the money you save on "options" you can buy loads of whiskey.
If you want to get naughty Litchfield get you to 500 bhp for £995+vat, but your void your warranty and you do not need 500 bhp.
I do like that summary ‘polite person’, very funny. I’m sure you’ve posted something along these lines quite recently?
If you’re paying cash then the sales guys aren’t bothered which options you go for. I suspect if they think they’ll be receiving the car back to sell on again in 2-3 years then they’ll start pushing you to spec various ‘essential’ options as they will want to be offering up a fully loaded car on their approved used list.
I’d agree that many track day hero’s in very expensive machinery could be shown up by a professional driver in a base 992.
You’ve got to hand to Porsche for their ingenuity in how to increase profit, charging huge amounts for embossing leather, having standard, metallic and then ‘special’ colours in an even higher price bracket etc. The list goes on.
I’m with you in that I think the standard seats are great, but I think there are some body shapes that benefit from the other options.
The rectangular grin at the front of the 992 can be broken up with the sports design apron, but it’s expensive and reduces clearance so needs to be thought through. Aesthetically, if I wasn’t going for PSE I’d shell out for the sports tips, as I much prefer the twin oval pipes to the rectangular tips.
If you’re paying cash then the sales guys aren’t bothered which options you go for. I suspect if they think they’ll be receiving the car back to sell on again in 2-3 years then they’ll start pushing you to spec various ‘essential’ options as they will want to be offering up a fully loaded car on their approved used list.
I’d agree that many track day hero’s in very expensive machinery could be shown up by a professional driver in a base 992.
You’ve got to hand to Porsche for their ingenuity in how to increase profit, charging huge amounts for embossing leather, having standard, metallic and then ‘special’ colours in an even higher price bracket etc. The list goes on.
I’m with you in that I think the standard seats are great, but I think there are some body shapes that benefit from the other options.
The rectangular grin at the front of the 992 can be broken up with the sports design apron, but it’s expensive and reduces clearance so needs to be thought through. Aesthetically, if I wasn’t going for PSE I’d shell out for the sports tips, as I much prefer the twin oval pipes to the rectangular tips.
dgswk said:
Yellow - awesome in the flesh and saves a few quid but maybe not one for resale
Didn't worry about resale. There might not be as many second hand buyers wanting yellow, but there also won't be many for them to choose from. but maybe not one for resaleIt would be a shame to spend £100k and compromise on colour worrying about resale.
P-G said:
Didn't worry about resale. There might not be as many second hand buyers wanting yellow, but there also won't be many for them to choose from.
It would be a shame to spend £100k and compromise on colour worrying about resale.
I did think about it for about 30 seconds, wife said 'whatever, I really dont care.....', that was that then!It would be a shame to spend £100k and compromise on colour worrying about resale.
I might be a bit late, but hopefully this will be of some help to you.
I agree with the sentiment that less is more in 911 land. However, I still went for a massive spec on my 992 C4S... It's the old need v want agreement, you don't need many of the options, but I would highly recommend the following:
Alcantara (now Race-Tex) roof lining. Makes a big difference in the look and feel of the interior. I mean you don't need it, but once you see a car with it against a car without, you will very likely be convinced it is £821 well spent.
Alcantara or leather sun visors. Why does a £100k car come with nasty plastic sun visors? Very odd, but again it's £291 well spent if you "upgrade" them.
18 seats. These are fantastic, but the benefit I enjoy the most is - I think, (and I might be wrong) they get a bit lower in the car than the 14 ways.
PCCB and 10mm lower PASM. You buy a 911 because you want a sporty drive right? The PCCBs feel amazing but I think you can really feel the difference in the steering too, (yeah I know very unlikely unless you are a proper driver but indulge me). And the 10mm drop only adds more feel. That and the car just sits/looks better in general. Again once you see a non-10mm car next to a 10mm dropped car you will always see a 911 without it as the SUV version, a 911looks so wrong/high without the 10mm drop, (IMO).
Coloured seatbelts. The interiors are always dark. A simple splash of colour and or matched to stitching is a no brainer. Again it's £312 very well spent.
Bose or better. I love music and would happily pay for better sound, but the road noise in a 911 is substantial. However, the one thing I noted in my research is that it is supposedly easier to upgrade aftermarket from the Bose (because it uses a digital link) than it is the standard system. To be fair I quite like the Bose in my 992, (it is much much better than the 991.1 and 991.2) so I haven't upgraded yet.
Sport-Tex. Utterly fantastic and might be the best interior available for a 922. Add crayon stitching, (or red depending on your paint colour) and it is unmatched. I love mine.
Oh and one other thing, you only get lights in the vanity mirror if you spec the light design package. I'm sure this won't matter to you, but my wife noticed in my 991.2 when I didn't spec it...
Hope that helps.
Regards,
Tom
I agree with the sentiment that less is more in 911 land. However, I still went for a massive spec on my 992 C4S... It's the old need v want agreement, you don't need many of the options, but I would highly recommend the following:
Alcantara (now Race-Tex) roof lining. Makes a big difference in the look and feel of the interior. I mean you don't need it, but once you see a car with it against a car without, you will very likely be convinced it is £821 well spent.
Alcantara or leather sun visors. Why does a £100k car come with nasty plastic sun visors? Very odd, but again it's £291 well spent if you "upgrade" them.
18 seats. These are fantastic, but the benefit I enjoy the most is - I think, (and I might be wrong) they get a bit lower in the car than the 14 ways.
PCCB and 10mm lower PASM. You buy a 911 because you want a sporty drive right? The PCCBs feel amazing but I think you can really feel the difference in the steering too, (yeah I know very unlikely unless you are a proper driver but indulge me). And the 10mm drop only adds more feel. That and the car just sits/looks better in general. Again once you see a non-10mm car next to a 10mm dropped car you will always see a 911 without it as the SUV version, a 911looks so wrong/high without the 10mm drop, (IMO).
Coloured seatbelts. The interiors are always dark. A simple splash of colour and or matched to stitching is a no brainer. Again it's £312 very well spent.
Bose or better. I love music and would happily pay for better sound, but the road noise in a 911 is substantial. However, the one thing I noted in my research is that it is supposedly easier to upgrade aftermarket from the Bose (because it uses a digital link) than it is the standard system. To be fair I quite like the Bose in my 992, (it is much much better than the 991.1 and 991.2) so I haven't upgraded yet.
Sport-Tex. Utterly fantastic and might be the best interior available for a 922. Add crayon stitching, (or red depending on your paint colour) and it is unmatched. I love mine.
Oh and one other thing, you only get lights in the vanity mirror if you spec the light design package. I'm sure this won't matter to you, but my wife noticed in my 991.2 when I didn't spec it...
Hope that helps.
Regards,
Tom
Edited by findtomdotcom on Saturday 29th August 11:11
Ascayman said:
Has anyone spec'd the rear wheel steering? Any thoughts on it?
I had it. Great at low speeds for practicality but I wasn’t a big fam at medium or high speeds as it made the car feel artificial when steering just off straight ahead. If I was ordering again I’d skip RAS and PDCC.Edited by arcamalpha on Sunday 30th August 19:42
arcamalpha said:
I had it. Great at low speeds for practicality but I wasn’t a big fam at medium or high speeds as it made the car feel artificial when steering just off straight ahead. If I was ordering again I’d skip RAS and PDCC.
Pretty much how i'd sum it upEdited by arcamalpha on Sunday 30th August 19:42
I have it. I must have a different version as mine works well and I’d would 100% order again.
To be fair, I’m fairly sure the difference it makes at speed is so small I probably wouldn’t really notice if I hadn’t of ordered it. But when it comes to fast corners and low speed manurers you can tell a rear steer car from a non-rear steer car and the smaller turning circle is useful.
I think the puzzling differences we are reporting is because there are some options that compliment others really well and some that do not. If you only get rear steer and not the -10mm option, and maybe add Porsche Steering Plus (PSP), you will have a very different experience (feel) to the guy that has rear steer with PCCB, -10mm sports suspension and wisely did not order the truly awful PSP...
To be fair, I’m fairly sure the difference it makes at speed is so small I probably wouldn’t really notice if I hadn’t of ordered it. But when it comes to fast corners and low speed manurers you can tell a rear steer car from a non-rear steer car and the smaller turning circle is useful.
I think the puzzling differences we are reporting is because there are some options that compliment others really well and some that do not. If you only get rear steer and not the -10mm option, and maybe add Porsche Steering Plus (PSP), you will have a very different experience (feel) to the guy that has rear steer with PCCB, -10mm sports suspension and wisely did not order the truly awful PSP...
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