Any decent 997.1 GT3's on the market?

[RC1]

yet another sytner select 997.1 gt cs (?) without cage and with pccbs 40k miles 70k

i do like a colour coded transmission tunnel but the aftermarket carbon wrap is an acquired taste

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/11303100?c...

[Dr S]

RC1 said:

yet another sytner select 997.1 gt cs (?) without cage and with pccbs 40k miles 70k

i do like a colour coded transmission tunnel but the aftermarket carbon wrap is an acquired taste

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/11303100?c...

Got the white transmission tunnel on my white 7.2 GT3 too. It lifts the cabin compared to the RS with standard black plastic

[braddo]

Dr S said:

RC1 said:

yet another sytner select 997.1 gt cs (?) without cage and with pccbs 40k miles 70k

i do like a colour coded transmission tunnel but the aftermarket carbon wrap is an acquired taste

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/11303100?c...

Got the white transmission tunnel on my white 7.2 GT3 too. It lifts the cabin compared to the RS with standard black plastic

Half the photos in that advert are of the centre console, so it's quite a selling feature.

[Digga]

RC1 said:

yet another sytner select 997.1 gt cs (?) without cage...

IMHO it's possibly not a CS because:

A.) there's no evidence of a cage ever having been fitted
4.) it's got (very nice) leather trim on the buckets
c.) Clubsport normally just have Nomex covered seats, but...
2.) Has yellow 12 o'clock marker on wheel which is not standard, so all bets off

Looks nice enough though. If people check condition (very carefully) and ignore all the tosh about these cars being investments and just drive them, hopefully it'll make someone happy.

[SFO]

it has the additional padding on the side of the door panels, so the seats are most likely OEM

[Digga]

SFO said:

it has the additional padding on the side of the door panels, so the seats are most likely OEM

I would say too.

It's also possible they came from the factory with the leather/alcantara trim too. Equally, it's the sort of thing that can be/could have been changed.

There were a few non-CS GT3's, both Gen 1 and 2 specced like this.

[TDT]

The drivers seat looks like it has been out and put back in - Could be wrong but, the seatbelt clip is on the the wrong side of the seat? - should be inside?

Don't know that it makes a difference anyway to the price or provenance.

[Digga]

TDT said:

The drivers seat looks like it has been out and put back in - Could be wrong but, the seatbelt clip is on the the wrong side of the seat? - should be inside?

Don't know that it makes a difference anyway to the price or provenance.

Good spot.



I can see why people might missroute it, not just out of ignorance, but because I find they are a bit uncomfortable. The height of the belt bucket (item 13) seems to be 'right' for comfort seats but IMHO too high for the buckets and tends to dig into your side a bit, especially if you need to reach across the car - to get your wallet out of the glove box, or slap a hysterical passenger.

[RichDS]

Evening all.
I rang up to enquire on the car today and am expecting a video through in the morning.
Had a chat with the salesman who wasn’t at all pushy and so had an enjoyable natter.
He advised it has had an extensive setup at center gravity (didn’t clarify dates / exactly what done but have requested info). He said opc wouldn’t take it due to non opc specialist history.
Seem to have talked myself and the wife round to a 997 GT3 (although still just considering it and may bottle it!!) and likely a gen 1 as .2 would mean finance which I can’t really be faffed with.
Not saying this would be the one as early on in my research / man maths / would likely want to wait till I can view and test a couple of cars (doubt possible on this one).
Still have to start somewhere....

[dopsonj]

RichDS said:

Evening all.
I rang up to enquire on the car today and am expecting a video through in the morning.
Had a chat with the salesman who wasn’t at all pushy and so had an enjoyable natter.
He advised it has had an extensive setup at center gravity (didn’t clarify dates / exactly what done but have requested info). He said opc wouldn’t take it due to non opc specialist history.
Seem to have talked myself and the wife round to a 997 GT3 (although still just considering it and may bottle it!!) and likely a gen 1 as .2 would mean finance which I can’t really be faffed with.
Not saying this would be the one as early on in my research / man maths / would likely want to wait till I can view and test a couple of cars (doubt possible on this one).
Still have to start somewhere....

You won't regret it, over 4000 miles since November done in mine, having just ticked over 173,000 total.. Love it... make the man maths work! :-)

One thing to note... It may not have AC? It has an ECO button where mine has AC OFF? Perhaps someone more familiar can confirm

• Think you can ignore me as it appears it was a change in 2007 to the wording AC OFF rather than ECO**

Edited by dopsonj on Wednesday 24th February 21:05

Edited by dopsonj on Wednesday 24th February 21:18

[RC1]

RichDS said:

Evening all.
I rang up to enquire on the car today and am expecting a video through in the morning.
Had a chat with the salesman who wasn’t at all pushy and so had an enjoyable natter.
He advised it has had an extensive setup at center gravity (didn’t clarify dates / exactly what done but have requested info). He said opc wouldn’t take it due to non opc specialist history.
Seem to have talked myself and the wife round to a 997 GT3 (although still just considering it and may bottle it!!) and likely a gen 1 as .2 would mean finance which I can’t really be faffed with.
Not saying this would be the one as early on in my research / man maths / would likely want to wait till I can view and test a couple of cars (doubt possible on this one).
Still have to start somewhere....

good man you know it makes sense

make sure you let us know if it is or is not a factory cs

if you call chris at center gravity with the reg no im sure he will offer some insight into the car

mine was bought from opc swindon even though it had been serviced outside of the network so its not a hard and fast rule

i expect with spring around the corner a few more will start to pop up

[GT4RS]

RichDS said:

Evening all.
I rang up to enquire on the car today and am expecting a video through in the morning.
Had a chat with the salesman who wasn’t at all pushy and so had an enjoyable natter.
He advised it has had an extensive setup at center gravity (didn’t clarify dates / exactly what done but have requested info). He said opc wouldn’t take it due to non opc specialist history.
Seem to have talked myself and the wife round to a 997 GT3 (although still just considering it and may bottle it!!) and likely a gen 1 as .2 would mean finance which I can’t really be faffed with.
Not saying this would be the one as early on in my research / man maths / would likely want to wait till I can view and test a couple of cars (doubt possible on this one).
Still have to start somewhere....

An opc can still retail a car if it’s been serviced outside of the porche opc network as long as it was carried out in the manufactures recommended time frame abs to third standard. An opc will choose not to retail a car if it requires to much prep work to get it to Porsche warranty standards. Its not been put back into the opc net work for a reason, if you are serious about the car get it inspected properly. Sytner select exists due to the cars they have in stock not meeting the manufactures set out guide lines for used car sale or due to it needing money spending on them.

It could be a simple as it’s got the wrong seat from the factory.

[LaurasOtherHalf]

Is it not just an age thing with OPC? 997.1s are too old to have the Porsche warranty applied now (I know they can’t have the two year warranty at least).

[Matter88]

Those door cards are fitted to Clubsport's only.

If it is not a Clubsport, then someone has changed the seats and door cards which is weird. Those Clubsport door cards have a crash protection pad in them in to offset the absence of airbags in the non Clubsport seats.

Ask the salesman for the production code, that will tell you whether is CS or not.

[Digga]

RichDS said:

Evening all.
I rang up to enquire on the car today and am expecting a video through in the morning.
Had a chat with the salesman who wasn’t at all pushy and so had an enjoyable natter.
He advised it has had an extensive setup at center gravity (didn’t clarify dates / exactly what done but have requested info). He said opc wouldn’t take it due to non opc specialist history.
Seem to have talked myself and the wife round to a 997 GT3 (although still just considering it and may bottle it!!) and likely a gen 1 as .2 would mean finance which I can’t really be faffed with.
Not saying this would be the one as early on in my research / man maths / would likely want to wait till I can view and test a couple of cars (doubt possible on this one).
Still have to start somewhere....

You are heading in the right direction. Get one bought and then move onto the next step:

https://www.sharkwerks.com/tuning-guides/997-gt3-2...

[LordOfTheManor]

the 997 is one of the prettiest 911's by far

[TheThrottleCable]

Matter88 said:

Those door cards are fitted to Clubsport's only.

If it is not a Clubsport, then someone has changed the seats and door cards which is weird. Those Clubsport door cards have a crash protection pad in them in to offset the absence of airbags in the non Clubsport seats.

Ask the salesman for the production code, that will tell you whether is CS or not.

This above is partially incorrect for anyone reading.

Any car specified with Carrera GT bucket seats from factory will come with these door cards - they are not specific to the Clubsport package

A normal GT3 with buckets will have seats in leather and alcantara as standard trim (codes 384 & 385 / I no. P02)

What is specific to Clubsport GT3 is that in conjunction with Clubsport Package (I no. 003) the buckets come wrapped in flame retardant fabric (e.g. Nomex )

TDT said:

The drivers seat looks like it has been out and put back in - Could be wrong but, the seatbelt clip is on the the wrong side of the seat? - should be inside?

Don't know that it makes a difference anyway to the price or provenance.

For those of bigger frame these belt receivers will jab you in the butt when you get in the car; you do not need to remove the seat to change the position of the belt receivers as the bolt point is accessible from the rear/side

RC1 said:

yet another sytner select 997.1 gt cs (?) without cage and with pccbs 40k miles 70k

This one is not a Clubsport Package car

Digga said:

2.) Has yellow 12 o'clock marker on wheel which is not standard, so all bets off

Looks to be an upgraded 997 RS steering wheel

Edited by TheThrottleCable on Thursday 25th February 11:30

[thelostboy]

TheThrottleCable said:

Any car specified with Carrera GT bucket seats from factory will come with these door cards - they are not specific to the Clubsport package

Edited by TheThrottleCable on Thursday 25th February 11:30

Admirable nerd knowledge there - that was news to me!

I would assume any GT3 without a cage is not a CS. It would be bizarre to remove one, when you can pay less for a comfort car.

[Matter88]

TheThrottleCable said:

Matter88 said:

Those door cards are fitted to Clubsport's only.

If it is not a Clubsport, then someone has changed the seats and door cards which is weird. Those Clubsport door cards have a crash protection pad in them in to offset the absence of airbags in the non Clubsport seats.

Ask the salesman for the production code, that will tell you whether is CS or not.

This above is partially incorrect for anyone reading.

Any car specified with Carrera GT bucket seats from factory will come with these door cards - they are not specific to the Clubsport package

A normal GT3 with buckets will have seats in leather and alcantara as standard trim (codes 384 & 385 / I no. P02)

What is specific to Clubsport GT3 is that in conjunction with Clubsport Package (I no. 003) the buckets come wrapped in flame retardant fabric (e.g. Nomex )

TDT said:

The drivers seat looks like it has been out and put back in - Could be wrong but, the seatbelt clip is on the the wrong side of the seat? - should be inside?

Don't know that it makes a difference anyway to the price or provenance.

For those of bigger frame these belt receivers will jab you in the butt when you get in the car; you do not need to remove the seat to change the position of the belt receivers as the bolt point is accessible from the rear/side

RC1 said:

yet another sytner select 997.1 gt cs (?) without cage and with pccbs 40k miles 70k

This one is not a Clubsport Package car

Digga said:

2.) Has yellow 12 o'clock marker on wheel which is not standard, so all bets off

Looks to be an upgraded 997 RS steering wheel

Edited by TheThrottleCable on Thursday 25th February 11:30

Impressive bearding! I have a Clubsport with nomex seats and these padded door cards hence the post.

[Digga]

thelostboy said:

TheThrottleCable said:

Any car specified with Carrera GT bucket seats from factory will come with these door cards - they are not specific to the Clubsport package

Edited by TheThrottleCable on Thursday 25th February 11:30

Admirable nerd knowledge there - that was news to me!

I would assume any GT3 without a cage is not a CS. It would be bizarre to remove one, when you can pay less for a comfort car.

Not so. I menioned ion one of my earlier posts there have been a few 997 GT3's, both Gen 1 and Gen 2, which have the carbon buckets (either CGT or the later type) but no cage. You could spec them this way and usually the seats had leather/alcantara trim.

Clubsports, as someone else correctly says, always had Nomex fabric seat coverings as standard.

However, as with the yellow 12 o'clock marker (which I've added to my own CS when I had the wheel re-trimmed) all of these things can be retro-fitted, especially over the course of a few years.