Any decent 997.1 GT3's on the market?

[RichDS]

Yes new to the market and conscious that provenance is very good regardless of of it’s not sold for a while.
Had some info through on the sytner car which has had some nice work carried out recently at center gravity

[RC1]

What do you know about the sytner select car?

[RichDS]

RC1 said:

What do you know about the sytner select car?

Had a video through and a few service book shots etc. Happy to forward if you pm me email address

[dopsonj]

https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/index.php?opti...

2007 997.1 GT3
16,400 miles
FPSH
Basalt Black - Silver Wheels
Comfort Spec
CA56 GRF

27th March 10am

Paintwork is swirled to feck.

[RC1]

youve got to wonder why there and not CC?

[RC1]

RichDS said:

Had a video through and a few service book shots etc. Happy to forward if you pm me email address

i was more curious about how you were getting on and whether we can now say whether the car is or is not a factory CS?

[GT4RS]

dopsonj said:

https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/index.php?opti...

2007 997.1 GT3
16,400 miles
FPSH
Basalt Black - Silver Wheels
Comfort Spec
CA56 GRF

27th March 10am

Paintwork is swirled to feck.

They haven’t even bothered to clean it, looks a unloved car

[RichDS]

RC1 said:

i was more curious about how you were getting on and whether we can now say whether the car is or is not a factory CS?

No probs - think someone more in the know clarified non CS?

Decided to pass on this one - didn’t go an see it but conscious of the likely reasons it’s at select but more importantly I feel like I really need to do more research and understand more about the car. I’d actually rather wait for a nice example enthusiast owned to turn up at a private sale sensibly priced.

[GT4RS]

RichDS said:

RC1 said:

i was more curious about how you were getting on and whether we can now say whether the car is or is not a factory CS?

No probs - think someone more in the know clarified non CS?

Decided to pass on this one - didn’t go an see it but conscious of the likely reasons it’s at select but more importantly I feel like I really need to do more research and understand more about the car. I’d actually rather wait for a nice example enthusiast owned to turn up at a private sale sensibly priced.

Sadly you will find many privately advertised cars will be more than retail pricing!

Good cars do pop up, but not very often.

[Digga]

GT4RS said:

Sadly you will find many privately advertised cars will be more than retail pricing!

Good cars do pop up, but not very often.

There are quite a few people on here who'd argue it is better to buy a car from a good, long term owner, than one that's at a random dealer with no real indication of the previous years use and maintenance.

[RC1]

GT4RS said:

dopsonj said:

https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/index.php?opti...

2007 997.1 GT3
16,400 miles
FPSH
Basalt Black - Silver Wheels
Comfort Spec
CA56 GRF

27th March 10am

Paintwork is swirled to feck.

They haven’t even bothered to clean it, looks a unloved car

it may not have been detailed to within an inch of its life but based on the description it looks a worthy contender for anyone seriously looking?

Offered here is a C-16, UK-supplied, right-hand drive Porsche 911(997) GT3 specified in Basalt Black Metallic with a black interior and black carpets. Supplied new by Porsche Centre Cardiff and first registered on 10 January 2007, to date this lovely GT3 has covered only 16,400 miles supported by MOTs and a detailed service history with all maintenance carried out by Porsche main agents. The most recent entry into the service book was a regular two-year inspection by Porsche Centre Tonbridge at 13,989 miles, supported by paper invoices in the history file.

The condition of this GT3 is excellent and Porsche inspection reports within the history file leave little doubt that this is a good, straight original example. The black paintwork retains a deep gloss and is even across the car, the high-quality interior shows little signs of wear if any as you might expect with such low mileage.

Accompanying this example is the aforementioned history file which contains old MOTs, inspection reports, old warranty paperwork, details of the Vehicle Tracking System fitted and the original service book stamped up-to-date. Also included is a Porsche battery conditioner, spare key and a fitted indoor car cover.

[GT4RS]

RC1 said:

GT4RS said:

dopsonj said:

https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/index.php?opti...

2007 997.1 GT3
16,400 miles
FPSH
Basalt Black - Silver Wheels
Comfort Spec
CA56 GRF

27th March 10am

Paintwork is swirled to feck.

They haven’t even bothered to clean it, looks a unloved car

it may not have been detailed to within an inch of its life but based on the description it looks a worthy contender for anyone seriously looking?

Offered here is a C-16, UK-supplied, right-hand drive Porsche 911(997) GT3 specified in Basalt Black Metallic with a black interior and black carpets. Supplied new by Porsche Centre Cardiff and first registered on 10 January 2007, to date this lovely GT3 has covered only 16,400 miles supported by MOTs and a detailed service history with all maintenance carried out by Porsche main agents. The most recent entry into the service book was a regular two-year inspection by Porsche Centre Tonbridge at 13,989 miles, supported by paper invoices in the history file.

The condition of this GT3 is excellent and Porsche inspection reports within the history file leave little doubt that this is a good, straight original example. The black paintwork retains a deep gloss and is even across the car, the high-quality interior shows little signs of wear if any as you might expect with such low mileage.

Accompanying this example is the aforementioned history file which contains old MOTs, inspection reports, old warranty paperwork, details of the Vehicle Tracking System fitted and the original service book stamped up-to-date. Also included is a Porsche battery conditioner, spare key and a fitted indoor car cover.

They can write as such sales fluff as they want, the paint work looks like it’s never been looked after, the car is dirty inside and out, the interior looks tired and they have just thrown the car cover in the front boot.

The car IMO looks unloved. If they cant be bothered to even clean it properly, fold the cover and get a basic detail, god knows what else has been missed in its life when servicing and maintenance has been required.

Either way even in its current condition I would be shocked if it didn’t at least make its lower estimate.

[GT4RS]

Digga said:

GT4RS said:

Sadly you will find many privately advertised cars will be more than retail pricing!

Good cars do pop up, but not very often.

There are quite a few people on here who'd argue it is better to buy a car from a good, long term owner, than one that's at a random dealer with no real indication of the previous years use and maintenance.

I’m not saying for one minute that buying from
The previous owner is isn’t a bad thing as long as they have owned the car long enough to warrant its condition and reliability. What I’m saying is may private sellers ask above what the car would or could retail for. The white and red private cars is a perfect example of this, it’s been on and off sale for over. Christ the red car was advertised at 100k then down to 90k now it’s back up to 100k. If it didn’t sell at 90k why on earth would it sell at 100k.

Makes no sense to me.

[braddo]

GT4RS said:

They can write as such sales fluff as they want, the paint work looks like it’s never been looked after, the car is dirty inside and out, the interior looks tired and they have just thrown the car cover in the front boot.

The car IMO looks unloved. If they cant be bothered to even clean it properly, fold the cover and get a basic detail, god knows what else has been missed in its life when servicing and maintenance has been required.

Either way even in its current condition I would be shocked if it didn’t at least make its lower estimate.

I don't get this. Just because a car hasn't been detailed to within an inch of its life, you think a car is unloved? It's done what, 17,000 miles or something silly. How could the interior possibly look tired?

The paint swirls are probably factory correct if you want get really anal about pristine originality!

[BillyB]

braddo said:

I don't get this. Just because a car hasn't been detailed to within an inch of its life, you think a car is unloved? It's done what, 17,000 miles or something silly. How could the interior possibly look tired?

The paint swirls are probably factory correct if you want get really anal about pristine originality!

Agreed. I have never paint-corrected any of my cars (admittedly not GT3s) but they've all been mechanically pampered.

[GT4RS]

braddo said:

GT4RS said:

They can write as such sales fluff as they want, the paint work looks like it’s never been looked after, the car is dirty inside and out, the interior looks tired and they have just thrown the car cover in the front boot.

The car IMO looks unloved. If they cant be bothered to even clean it properly, fold the cover and get a basic detail, god knows what else has been missed in its life when servicing and maintenance has been required.

Either way even in its current condition I would be shocked if it didn’t at least make its lower estimate.

I don't get this. Just because a car hasn't been detailed to within an inch of its life, you think a car is unloved? It's done what, 17,000 miles or something silly. How could the interior possibly look tired?

The paint swirls are probably factory correct if you want get really anal about pristine originality!

Looking at it they haven’t even bothered to give it a £10 wash let alone a detail. If you want top money in today’s car market you need to make a effort.

Christ they want 70k for it, they could of at least spent £400 quid getting it ready for sale.

[RC1]

its guided at 65-75 plus fees. dont you think it will make it because of the things you call out?

[GT4RS]

RC1 said:

its guided at 65-75 plus fees. dont you think it will make it because of the things you call out?

Be very shocked if it doesn’t make 65k to 70k with fees.

The seller would get a better return on CC in my opinion.

I’m not saying it’s a bad car, it’s just very poorly prepared for sale considering the mileage.

If a private buyer gets it anywhere below the lower estimate price they would of done well.

[GT4RS]

These car look good value in this price range as long as they have been well looked after and original.

It wasn’t that long ago many independents would of tried to sell a car like this for 80k to 85k

[Digga]

GT4RS said:

These car look good value in this price range as long as they have been well looked after and original.

It wasn’t that long ago many independents would of tried to sell a car like this for 80k to 85k

True, it’s what I ad to pay for mine and I’d missed another car the week prior at similar price. I am actually thinking non RS 996 and 997 cars are great value now, but don’t mind either way - I’d do it again and don’t want to part with mine.