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Youforreal.

855 posts

14 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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Any known issues with engines in the 997.1/2 gt3 or rs engines?

TDT

5,714 posts

129 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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Resonance flaps and screws letting loose, and cam actuator bolts backing out due to engine harmonics, especially on anything with a LWFW, mitigated by having a harmonic dampener where there isn’t one.

997.1 seems to be best as it’s a little less complex due to variable valve control…intake side only.
It’s also the unit of choice for big bore upgrades like Sharkwerks builds.

FL Racing

79 posts

22 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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Youforreal. said:
Any known issues with engines in the 997.1/2 gt3 or rs engines?
Yes
There were a few con rod failures on the 997.1, mine being 1 of them.
There were also a few issue on all with coolant pipes and the 997.2 RS had issues with harmonics causing activator bolts backing out on the cams and another issue with the flaps in the inlet breaking off.
Nothing is bulletproof all low numbers compared to the 991.1 issues
Rennlist has threads on this

PRO5T

5,162 posts

35 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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FL Racing said:
Yes
Mat, formally of fernsport is convinced there’s a bad batch of 997.1 engines out there that will all fail catastrophically at some point.

Digga

42,218 posts

293 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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997.1/2 Mezger engine has a few issues. The coolant hoses is probably the most potentially serious, because not only can it wreck the engine and also send coolant under the tyres causing it to crash, but the coolant spills have also been known to cause extremely serious multi-car crashes.

The snag is there’s not always any warning. Not drips of coolant on the garage floor, or anything. The adhesive holding the coolant fitting will show no leaks, until the engine is very hot and at high revs - i.e. on the track - and then they let everything go. I have seen one occasion where a 997.2 3.8 GT3 RS had just a slight leak which misted the car his mate was driving behind, through Foxholes, and the engine coolant warning flagged up before he’d trashed the engine or filled the track with coolant.

It’s not an impossible fix, but important.

Rennlist is a good source of info.

TDT

5,714 posts

129 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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I’ve been behind a 997.2 RS 3.8 at Donny when coolant hoses let go, I initially thought that something had broken on the chassis on my car! The sudden loss of grip is certainly chastening!

hunter 66

4,063 posts

230 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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TDT said:
I’ve been behind a 997.2 RS 3.8 at Donny when coolant hoses let go, I initially thought that something had broken on the chassis on my car! The sudden loss of grip is certainly chastening!
Yes got in car video oil line on a 993 coming off and following car hitting oil at 145 mph entering Eau Rouge

Digga

42,218 posts

293 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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The chap I spoke to at the ‘Ring who’s mate’s 3.8 RS let go (he’s a PHer) was in a matte finish Exige. We were parked together at hotel and I asked him what it was on his car. It looked like pollen. Him and his mate were lucky.

FL Racing

79 posts

22 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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PRO5T said:
Mat, formally of fernsport is convinced there’s a bad batch of 997.1 engines out there that will all fail catastrophically at some point.
No not Matt I am, due to the low mileage of some of the 997.1 and my failure happen at 40k there are a lot of car still not reached that point

Digga

42,218 posts

293 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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FL Racing said:
PRO5T said:
Mat, formally of fernsport is convinced there’s a bad batch of 997.1 engines out there that will all fail catastrophically at some point.
No not Matt I am, due to the low mileage of some of the 997.1 and my failure happen at 40k there are a lot of car still not reached that point
Mines pushing on toward 50,000 miles. Will have to find a different justification for a 3.9 upgrade. biggrin

ETA 997 engine and gearbox parts are getting somewhat rarer and more expensive these days.

Grantstown

1,118 posts

97 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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You’d surely prefer it rebuilt at a 1/3 of the cost by a firm that do it all the time, rather than a once in a blue moon job at an OPC?

rrroro

420 posts

165 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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FL Racing said:
Youforreal. said:
Any known issues with engines in the 997.1/2 gt3 or rs engines?
Yes
There were a few con rod failures on the 997.1, mine being 1 of them.
There were also a few issue on all with coolant pipes and the 997.2 RS had issues with harmonics causing activator bolts backing out on the cams and another issue with the flaps in the inlet breaking off.
Nothing is bulletproof all low numbers compared to the 991.1 issues
Rennlist has threads on this
What model year was your 997.1 GT3?

FL Racing

79 posts

22 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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Digga said:
Mines pushing on toward 50,000 miles. Will have to find a different justification for a 3.9 upgrade. biggrin

ETA 997 engine and gearbox parts are getting somewhat rarer and more expensive these days.
To be honest mate it probably cheaper to keep the 7.1 and buy a 991.1 than turn your 3.6 into a 3.8 or 4.0 these days

TDT

5,714 posts

129 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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Hence projects in the works to mate 991.2 DGG to 997 GT

FL Racing

79 posts

22 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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rrroro said:
What model year was your 997.1 GT3?
you knew my car well it was 8 months old than yours but was also quicker. hehe

FL Racing

79 posts

22 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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TDT said:
Hence projects in the works to mate 991.2 DGG to 997 GT
Interesting who’s doing this any links info?

TDT

5,714 posts

129 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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FL Racing said:
TDT said:
Hence projects in the works to mate 991.2 DGG to 997 GT
Interesting who’s doing this any links info?
Dundon Motorsports are working it…. They have something running but still far from complete.
Even when they finish who knows if it will be something that is repeatable or translates to other markets… but they have seen that Mezgers are not easy or cost effective to replace now, and that actually for the purposes of driving/keep 997 GT running on the track, this could be a cool way forward.

Youforreal.

855 posts

14 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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Cheers for the info gents, seems they all have their niggles to a degree but what high performance cars haven’t.

I’m sure it’s quite a small percentage but suppose that’s little comfort if your one of the stats.


TDT

5,714 posts

129 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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Yep. Pick what you like, maintenance is part of ownership.

EvoSid

1,116 posts

73 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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FL Racing said:
Yep I have a reserve on it, having it inspected and then go from there.
But would like to here from previous owners or anyone who knows car.
Hi FL Racing
I assume you did not go through with the purchase of the mIami blu Gt3 as it is still for sale. I am tempted as I sold my 992 GTS which I found way too. hard for our Scottish Roads.
Can you share your thoughts on the car if you viewed it

Thanks

Sid