GT3 prices going up

GT3 prices going up

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Wheelspinning

1,726 posts

39 months

Sunday 1st December 2024
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av185 said:
Wheelspinning said:
av185 said:
Down for my OPCs last 4RS next year hopefully in Venadium Grey if its introduced.
Why, of course you are.....biglaugh

Like most on here, we know that will never happen for 'reasons beyond your control'....

Like say the 3 x 992 GT3s, the 992 touring and most likely a 992GT3RS that your OPC offered you but you had to decline...whistle
You really are a prize plum popping up like a bad smell again trying to ruin this thread.

You need serious help...... as your fantasy RS Spyder purchase thread proves. rofl
Your lack of self-awareness on any porsche thread and how you are viewed is astonishing; the fact that nobody responds to your posts should be a giveaway.

I asked about any owners could advise about how tricky the roof was to remove and replace on a RS spyder as I was offered one.

There is no challenge to be offered a new rs spyder; there are quite a few unregistred ones available at list or less, and early used '24 cars are available for cobsiderably under list.

The electric roof on my 675LT works at upto 26mph with a button, so whilst it was nice being called out of the blue and being offered the shark blue weissach rs spider at well below list from the dealer I have bought 2 x 992 from in the last 18 months, it's not for us as the roof seems a ballache; at no point did I say i was purchasing it, and there is only one belter on these forums that posts about ordered cars that never, ever appear.


I am sure you shall post up pics of the GT4RS when it arrives...or not..tbf, nobody would be interested either way. wink



PGNSagaris

3,005 posts

175 months

Sunday 1st December 2024
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Wheelspinning said:
av185 said:
Down for my OPCs last 4RS next year hopefully in Venadium Grey if its introduced.
Why, of course you are.....biglaugh

Like most on here, we know that will never happen for 'reasons beyond your control'....

Like say the 3 x 992 GT3s, the 992 touring and most likely a 992GT3RS that your OPC offered you but you had to decline...whistle
Builseye

PGNSagaris

3,005 posts

175 months

Sunday 1st December 2024
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Don’t forget Walt’s 2RS either

MarkM3Evoplus

838 posts

209 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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NRG1976 said:
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£75k retail must mean £65 trade even at an Indy.

If the cost of an engine rebuild is as has been said £35k then accepting that it might never happen, still that’s close to the level where it would write the car off.

Isn’t there a danger that these will enter a sort of death spiral like early 997s where people are not prepared to take the risk, when you can get a Cayman GT4 for similar money?

For a lot of people who just want a GT style car but aren’t track addicts it’s surely going to put them off a 997.1 GT3 and those that are will wait to be able to afford a .2?
Why are engine rebuilds on the GT3 so expensive, I seem to recall 997 engine rebuilds were up to £10k? Is it the costs of the GT3 engine parts being so much higher than a 997 or something?

I spoke to a chap who's 991.2 gt3 engine went pop (oil pump issue, from memory) and Porsche said £101K for a new engine (covered under warranty), but the delivery could be a while, so he opted for a rebuild at Guildford(?) OPC and it came to over £57K.

Presume, due to oil starvation a fair few bits needed replacing, but I am not going to forget to renew my warranty this month!!!

(I’m assuming £35k rebuild is an Indy cost)

Throttlebody

2,479 posts

63 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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PGNSagaris said:
Don’t forget Walt’s 2RS either
It’s Phantasmagoric.

Throttlebody

2,479 posts

63 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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How low will a leggy 991.1 GT3 have to go. Even G series engined ones are hanging around.


Familymad

1,093 posts

226 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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Have to say I was really up for a GT3 or RS in the 991.1 or .2 era but the engine issues have dented my confidence. I was cross shopping F12, 720, GT4 RS and FF. Granted any can have issues but I had thought the .2 fixed it all. Appears not now with one for sale after an engine swap and another needing one above.

The warranty way of dealing with the concern is how to run a 720 but I had thought this wouldn’t have been needed for the German tank. Seems things are not as reliable as I used to think. I get it that the engine is pushed to its limits for a 4.0 NA flat 6, but not far enough to warrant this level of issues.

Mankers

639 posts

178 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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Familymad said:
Have to say I was really up for a GT3 or RS in the 991.1 or .2 era but the engine issues have dented my confidence. I was cross shopping F12, 720, GT4 RS and FF. Granted any can have issues but I had thought the .2 fixed it all. Appears not now with one for sale after an engine swap and another needing one above.

The warranty way of dealing with the concern is how to run a 720 but I had thought this wouldn’t have been needed for the German tank. Seems things are not as reliable as I used to think. I get it that the engine is pushed to its limits for a 4.0 NA flat 6, but not far enough to warrant this level of issues.
There have been little to no significant issues with the 991.2 GT3 engine. The design is fundamentally strong and is proving robust (there will always be 1 or 2 failure examples with any engine).

The 991.1’s issues have been well documented and can have a warranty up until 15 year birthday for relatively small amount.

As I’ve said on here before, I have run mine for 5 years, covering 15k miles (mostly Europe / mountain passes), other than chewing few a few tyres the only thing that has failed is the washer nossle connector!

Such a great, well balanced handling package, so much fun! Maybe I will change it in a few years, but probably just for a newer .2 or 992 GT3…

NRG1976

1,539 posts

19 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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If one or two G series engines go pop the arse will fall out the 991.1 GT3 market.

ags11

595 posts

149 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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Have G engines been reliable/sorted the problems?

TDT

5,632 posts

128 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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NRG1976 said:
If one or two G series engines go pop the arse will fall out the 991.1 GT3 market.
What are you talking about?! Lol. G series have been failing.
There isn't just one G rev lol.


NRG1976

1,539 posts

19 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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TDT said:
NRG1976 said:
If one or two G series engines go pop the arse will fall out the 991.1 GT3 market.
What are you talking about?! Lol. G series have been failing.
There isn't just one G rev lol.
Seriously? I was told G series engines fixed the issue and most people I’ve spoken to have thought the same? If it hasn’t then a combination of more failures being more widely known, plus 15 year warranty expiry, will be catastrophic for prices - unless some specialist are able to provide a more commercially viable repair service.

It comes to something when you buy a Ferrari as a cheaper alternative to a Porsche !!! Ferraris have big bills but nowhere near the cost of a replacement GT3 engine!!!

Adam.

28,111 posts

263 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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NRG1976 said:
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I spoke to a chap who's 991.2 gt3 engine went pop (oil pump issue, from memory) and Porsche said £101K for a new engine (covered under warranty), but the delivery could be a while, so he opted for a rebuild at Guildford(?) OPC and it came to over £57K.
Holy mother of god, that’s mental

NRG1976

1,539 posts

19 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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Adam. said:
Holy mother of god, that’s mental
Just to be clear as you have messed up the quoting, I didn’t say that but I do agree!

ChrisW.

7,123 posts

264 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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As has been written previously the 991.1 issue in all variants was the reliability of the hydraulic valve lifters ... hence the limiting of the rev limit of the 991.1 GT3RS.

The 991.2 all variants had solid lifters which are proving not to be a problem.

Adam.

28,111 posts

263 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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NRG1976 said:
Adam. said:
Holy mother of god, that’s mental
Just to be clear as you have messed up the quoting, I didn’t say that but I do agree!
Apologies I built upon MarkM3’s misquote so wasn’t sure he said what

But anyway, mental!!

xbowdan

185 posts

222 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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My 991.2 GT3 engine went pop twice at 4K miles. Luckily, under warranty.

The first instance; Porsche made the decision to rebuild, rather than replace, which took months. I wanted rid by that point, but the OPC wouldn’t buy it off me until it was repaired (which was under their control, not mine!).

Once rebuilt, I sold it. They took a customer out for a test drive, and the engine went pop again!! So it had to have a replacement engine regardless!!

Great cars though, but perhaps not as bulletproof as they make out.

FL Racing

73 posts

21 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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xbowdan said:
My 991.2 GT3 engine went pop twice at 4K miles. Luckily, under warranty.

The first instance; Porsche made the decision to rebuild, rather than replace, which took months. I wanted rid by that point, but the OPC wouldn’t buy it off me until it was repaired (which was under their control, not mine!).

Once rebuilt, I sold it. They took a customer out for a test drive, and the engine went pop again!! So it had to have a replacement engine regardless!!

Great cars though, but perhaps not as bulletproof as they make out.
Do you know what failed

Cheib

23,944 posts

184 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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Ultimately these are high performance engines that do have issues. 4.0 RS engines have been known to have issues. Doesn’t seem to stop people buying them !

xbowdan

185 posts

222 months

Sunday 8th December 2024
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FL Racing said:
Do you know what failed
No, I don’t think they knew either!!!