991.1 GT3 - Advice on purchase

991.1 GT3 - Advice on purchase

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Shaoxter

3,696 posts

106 months

Friday 23rd September
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robj4 said:
In case the OP is still considering a .1 thought I’d share my recent engine replacement experience.
Very useful info, thanks for sharing.
Which engine did your car have originally?

NathR

11 posts

164 months

Friday 23rd September
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robj4 said:
In case the OP is still considering a .1 thought I’d share my recent engine replacement experience.

Three weeks ago the ‘Reduced power, ok to drive’ check light came on a couple of times. Porsche assistance sent the AA who agreed it should be recovered to a dealer even though the fault code was just misfire cylinder 6

Dealer replaced coil packs and plugs, pronounced fixed. Same fault and reduced power 4 miles from the dealer, returned and a couple of days later Porsche agreed to drop the engine and inspect Cams and followers. Wear shown on just about all and a new engine arrived three business days later, a G6 with all ancillaries including new primary cats, alternator etc

The car is a late 2014 which I bought still with its original engine, my logic was I’d look for one that had the spec I wanted and if it’s still on the original engine maybe it hasn’t had too hard a life. With a 2 year and 9 month warranty I’d have time to use it how I want to without worry if the cam follower coating breaks down.

Rennlist and a couple of other owners were a great help in making sure I was aware of the procedures to a replacement engine. It’s not difficult but if anyone would like to hear the details PM me.

Looking forward to having the car back with a free, new, improved engine at 20k miles on an 8 year old high performance car. Amazing really and still with two years full warranty left.



Edited by robj4 on Friday 23 September 08:51
To add to this I've recently had a similar experience.

I've owned my late 2014 991.1 GT3 since Nov 21, a 2 owner 13.5k mile car with original engine. The first owner covered half those miles in 6 years, the second covered the rest in just 1 year. I've covered 4k miles since which is higher than I will average but included a fairly mega 3.3k mile Euro road trip for a significant birthday.

I had a couple of the warnings flag up, always only at very high revs 'reduced power ok to drive', a reset of the ignition took it out of limp mode and cleared the warning, so you're not stranded when it does happen. My local OPC (Norwich) had the car in and dropped the engine immediately without skirting around the issue fitting coil packs etc, wear was noted on the lobes and the replacement engine process began. Being a relatively new dealer it's the first they've encountered but they couldn't have been better, new engine was in and car back within three weeks.

I won't deny that when it happened I was massively annoyed as I went into the purchase fully aware of the problem but with the 'it won't happen to me' attitude if I'm honest. Without the backed up stories of how well Porsche cover this issue then I wouldn't have purchased the car but during my ownership the Porsche warranty will always be extended in any case. From what I've found on Rennlist etc there hasn't been a related issue on the latest G series engines which have been fitted since around 2017. So I now see it that I've got a brand new improved engine (cost of the engine without ancillaries or labour was £40k apparently) so a win win. My only inconvenience is that I'm now running it in rather than enjoying it properly, during a period where I didn't want to accumulate many miles.

I know of another owner who purchased a lovely 5k miles example at the same time as me (I narrowly missed it) who's just had a replacement engine also, not sure how many miles he covered since purchase however.

robj4

324 posts

139 months

Friday 23rd September
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Shaoxter said:
robj4 said:
In case the OP is still considering a .1 thought I’d share my recent engine replacement experience.
Very useful info, thanks for sharing.
Which engine did your car have originally?
It was still with the original E series. Delivered late enough for the initial rod bolt check / mod. Probably.


robj4

324 posts

139 months

Friday 23rd September
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NathR said:
I won't deny that when it happened I was massively annoyed as I went into the purchase fully aware of the problem but with the 'it won't happen to me' attitude if I'm honest.
Nice you got it sorted even more simply! I went into the process hoping it would happen, feels like getting a new car almost.

NathR

11 posts

164 months

Friday 23rd September
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robj4 said:
Nice you got it sorted even more simply! I went into the process hoping it would happen, feels like getting a new car almost.
That is the correct way of thinking to be fair! biggrin

Gibbo205

2,974 posts

189 months

Friday 23rd September
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This is why 991.1's are such superb value.

My Guards Red 991.1 sold within one week of me advertising, the new owner is of the same mindset as me, when it does blow up, he knows Porsche has his back, even if it blows beyond 10 years old as he will keep extending the warranty.

My car was an original E series on 17,000 miles and still going strong, the new owner is hoping it will blow so he can get a nice free motor and ancillaries.

991.1 superb cars, great value for money!

robj4

324 posts

139 months

Friday 23rd September
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I’m not sure Porsche will continue with the new engines after the 10 years is up. It’s only the hard coating failing on the cam followers, although then wear on the cams if not caught quickly.

Yes there’s tiny particles then in the oil system but not chunks of metal, I’d be surprised if they couldn’t be repaired.

Interestingly there’s a 991.1 RS on CC that has had a bank of followers replaced, no idea what it’s history is though. People have posted that .1 RS’s have had new engines under warranty too even though the 10 year doesn’t specifically apply to them.

Once the 10 years is up maybe each case will be decided on its merits.

Gibbo205

2,974 posts

189 months

Friday 23rd September
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robj4 said:
I’m not sure Porsche will continue with the new engines after the 10 years is up. It’s only the hard coating failing on the cam followers, although then wear on the cams if not caught quickly.

Yes there’s tiny particles then in the oil system but not chunks of metal, I’d be surprised if they couldn’t be repaired.

Interestingly there’s a 991.1 RS on CC that has had a bank of followers replaced, no idea what it’s history is though. People have posted that .1 RS’s have had new engines under warranty too even though the 10 year doesn’t specifically apply to them.

Once the 10 years is up maybe each case will be decided on its merits.
I know of three RS that had engine failure, one was rebuilt under warranty and the other two had new engines, all were done under extended warranty and all three were used a lot on track.

robj4

324 posts

139 months

Saturday 24th September
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Gibbo205 said:
I know of three RS that had engine failure, one was rebuilt under warranty and the other two had new engines, all were done under extended warranty and all three were used a lot on track.
Interesting, do you know what failed in those cases? Curious if they all had the finger follower coating breakdown or something else.

There’s a post on Rennlist that the G6 engine has the same head design as the RS in respect of lubrication and cam and follower surface finish

That_White_GT3

243 posts

153 months

Monday 26th September
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robj4 said:
No I didn't, any particular reason for asking? The car has been to Porsche Silverstone in the past though.
Mine was in for some warranty work the other week and i saw a .1 having a new engine fitted. The timing worked with yours so wondered if it might be yours.

robj4

324 posts

139 months

Monday 26th September
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Ahh ok, wonder how many engines Porsche made, seems to be a bit of a rush on!

Hope you got what we was needed done ok