993 Triptronic to manual

993 Triptronic to manual

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Wilmslowboy

Original Poster:

3,522 posts

188 months

Friday 23rd September
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The value gap between a triptronic 993 and a manual one seems to be widening.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1997-porsche-9...

I reckon this car would have been £20k £25k more had it been a manual (50% more).

I know it’s been discussed for 15 years or so, but is there actually a viable conversion process or company offering it ?


Pistonsquirter

289 posts

21 months

Friday 23rd September
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Ingredients;
Box, flywheel, clutch & hydraulics, pedals, shifter, linkages, cluster, possibly propshaft & mounts, amend v5.

Method;
Swap all parts listed above & simmer for 5 minutes.

MrVert

4,252 posts

221 months

Friday 23rd September
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The cost would most likely make it not worth it.

Labour prices even at Indy's are pretty eye watering and no doubt would make it a non starter if you went down that route IMO.

Plus you'll end up with a car worth less than a factory manual..not really many plus points I'm afraid.

Discussed here a while back..

https://rennlist.com/forums/993-forum/1001062-tipt...

ChrisW.

4,655 posts

237 months

Friday 23rd September
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I agree ... I only once drove a Tiptronic and didn't really like it ... part of the problem is that the PDK is so much better ...

Conders4008

20 posts

53 months

Friday 23rd September
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you'd be taking away originality which at least this car seems to have in spades,, I think if if had have been maintained better (last service over 5 years ago, then another 5 year gap etc,, various oil leaks on the MOTs), and if they had have got on top of the exterior and interior problems, this car would have made £60k i reckon,, great colour.

Koln-RS

3,526 posts

194 months

Friday 23rd September
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My take; it’s a £35-40k 993 Tip that has had its value stretched because it’s a ‘wide-bodied S’ - which doesn’t actually make a better car.

Tiptronic S on the 993 wasn’t bad, but old torque convertor technology, and the 6-spd manual is just so much better and in tune with the car.

Mileage is too high for ‘collectors’, needs paintwork, and most 993s need attention in the areas you can’t see. Colour combo seems to be the most common on 993s - the light interior shows marks and ages poorly, and the navy metallic, like black, only looks good when it’s detail perfect.

To spend money changing the gearbox would make no financial sense IMO. Fair question, though.

esotericar

573 posts

9 months

Friday 23rd September
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Suppose another way of looking at it would be - if the plan was to keep it forever with no concern re resale value, could a converted Tip work out cheaper?

It would want to be a lot cheaper to compensate for the hassle and I suspect the price gap just isn't big enough. You want to be saving a solid five-figure sum to make it worth while. If it was, say, only a £5k saving, can't see that it 's worth the ballache. So even without a thought to resale, suspect it doesn't add up.

Koln-RS

3,526 posts

194 months

Friday 23rd September
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And you have to bear in mind that the value of everything it likely to take a hit in the near future.

boydyrs

23 posts

213 months

Friday 23rd September
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Or simply fit Mercedes’ flappy paddles to it, thrash it severely to learn gearbox to change quickly and it then becomes quite a hoot for 20k cheaper. Conversion approx 1hr…..simples

Mumsn3t

67 posts

6 months

Friday 23rd September
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boydyrs said:
Or simply fit Mercedes’ flappy paddles to it, thrash it severely to learn gearbox to change quickly and it then becomes quite a hoot for 20k cheaper. Conversion approx 1hr…..simples
You can spank that as hard as you like, nothing is improving that woeful excuse for a gearbox. Has to be the worst box ever installed in a performance car?

BertBert

16,818 posts

193 months

Friday 23rd September
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I bought a 964 tip when I only had the use of my right leg for driving for a period. At leasti kept mobile and in a 911, but what a woeful thing. Was it any better in the 993?

For the conversion to manual is there any ECU stuff to be done as well?

Mumsn3t

67 posts

6 months

Saturday 24th September
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BertBert said:
I bought a 964 tip when I only had the use of my right leg for driving for a period. At leasti kept mobile and in a 911, but what a woeful thing. Was it any better in the 993?

For the conversion to manual is there any ECU stuff to be done as well?
It's only use really. Can't see any other benefit. I think there is a ecu connection. The dash/clocks are certainly different.