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APOLO1 said:
https://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/a45293842/por...
This is a good review on how the ST drives. It’s nothing like the Sports Classic or a GT3, Sports Classic which is very much a GT cruiser type car.
So it's nothing like the GT3 to drive, despite from that article ' The car uses the same basic chassis structure as the GT3, down to the double-wishbone front suspension architecture'This is a good review on how the ST drives. It’s nothing like the Sports Classic or a GT3, Sports Classic which is very much a GT cruiser type car.
We are talking incremental differences to what is ostensibly the same car.
23wn_4f2 said:
I agree with this. The SC is waaay less numbers (86 UK cars?) than the Speedster for example which has started to increase in value again now. The SCs have dipped like most models as finance is a considerable factor at this price point however there is also some uncertainty due to an over-supply of SCs currently in the market. I suspect these are making way for an S/T. Once all the S/Ts are delivered (with the requisite number flipped), I can see the SCs increasing in value
speedster hasnt increased in price from what i see. theyve always been around the 300k mark. dont worry those will drop when the new one arrives in next year or two.I know Porsche marketed the SC as being special because it was a "2wd manual Turbo" and thus had a connection to a GT2 I guess or the pre 993 Turbo's. However....there are an absolutely st load of 2wd manual 991.2 and 991.2 Carrera/S/GTS's....which all happen to be manual 2wd Turbo cars.
I know it's got more power than all of those but it really is clutching at straws to say the SC has a special/unique drivetrain.
I know it's got more power than all of those but it really is clutching at straws to say the SC has a special/unique drivetrain.
Sidsw said:
23wn_4f2 said:
I agree with this. The SC is waaay less numbers (86 UK cars?) than the Speedster for example which has started to increase in value again now. The SCs have dipped like most models as finance is a considerable factor at this price point however there is also some uncertainty due to an over-supply of SCs currently in the market. I suspect these are making way for an S/T. Once all the S/Ts are delivered (with the requisite number flipped), I can see the SCs increasing in value
speedster hasnt increased in price from what i see. theyve always been around the 300k mark. dont worry those will drop when the new one arrives in next year or two.Every time I walked into the OPC to drop and collect my car after a service , unusually a salesman actually spoke to me, but all 3 times ( As car was not ready without telling me ) it was , do I want to buy the SC they have had for a while ....... just a Quick Look at it , Fugly thing . No thanks . ,
Edited by hunter 66 on Wednesday 12th June 17:25
Cheib said:
I know Porsche marketed the SC as being special because it was a "2wd manual Turbo" and thus had a connection to a GT2 I guess or the pre 993 Turbo's. However....there are an absolutely st load of 2wd manual 991.2 and 991.2 Carrera/S/GTS's....which all happen to be manual 2wd Turbo cars.
I know it's got more power than all of those but it really is clutching at straws to say the SC has a special/unique drivetrain.
Same can be said about the 997 SC as that's just the C2S engine with the power kit fitted but that doesn't seem to hamper their value. I know it's got more power than all of those but it really is clutching at straws to say the SC has a special/unique drivetrain.
The special edition turbo you are referring to is the 50th year edition.
It is a limited edition car with some tricky bits on it.
But it is PDK and four wheel drive.
And will be priced at over 200K
Still worth having though a bit like the 40th year edition turbo S done in the three colours.
It is a limited edition car with some tricky bits on it.
But it is PDK and four wheel drive.
And will be priced at over 200K
Still worth having though a bit like the 40th year edition turbo S done in the three colours.
23wn_4f2 said:
I purchased mine in 2021 for 240k (from OPC). Equivalent spec is closer to 300k nowadays. They have increased...
i dont remember seeing them at that price. even ones on collecting cars were going for circa 300k in 21/22https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2019-porsche-9...
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2019-porsche-9...
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2019-porsche-9...
you must be in a very elite club of people who bought a car in 2021 when prices were going crazy and its still worth more now than then!
Purple Man said:
The special edition turbo you are referring to is the 50th year edition.
It is a limited edition car with some tricky bits on it.
But it is PDK and four wheel drive.
And will be priced at over 200K
Still worth having though a bit like the 40th year edition turbo S done in the three colours.
its not a special edition. It is a limited edition car with some tricky bits on it.
But it is PDK and four wheel drive.
And will be priced at over 200K
Still worth having though a bit like the 40th year edition turbo S done in the three colours.
it will be lauched soon enough, then lets see what happens to sport classic prices.
hunter 66 said:
Every time I walked into the OPC to drop and collect mylar after a service , unusually a salesman actually spoke to me but all 3 times ( As car was not ready without telling me ) it was do I want to buy the SC they have had for a while ....... just a Quick Look at it , Fugly thing . No thanks .
I am surprised they spoke to you at all after the abuse you have given your car by driving it,instead of bhing and moaning on here.Hunter 66, you can not call the 992 Sports Classic Ugly, it is the best looking 911 they have made in the last twenty years! Inside and out.
It's funny how certain people imply they get offered all these cars with a mad discount, when I ask there seems little movement.
I think there are a few people on here with alternative motives.?!?
It's funny how certain people imply they get offered all these cars with a mad discount, when I ask there seems little movement.
I think there are a few people on here with alternative motives.?!?
Robbo66 said:
The SC is a bulbous parody of a car, an automotive Liberace's handbag...cynically designed with standard parts, and packaged to appeal to those wearing boat shoes with no socks....just saying.
I actually quite like how it looks - at least in terms of how modern 911s look in general. I don't really think any of them after the 997 generation are traditionally pretty, but as a GT/cruiser car, I don't find it too bad .... wheel size on all of them is ridiculous imo i dont remember seeing them at that price. even ones on collecting cars were going for circa 300k in 21/22
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2019-porsche-9...
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2019-porsche-9...
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2019-porsche-9...
you must be in a very elite club of people who bought a car in 2021 when prices were going crazy and its still worth more now than then!
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I mentioned 2021, not 21/22. Late 2021/start of 2022 saw the start of the crazy boom in overs for all Porsches. The 1 2021 example you posted was a delivery mileage, heritage 'launch' spec car. The Heritage spec'ed cars will always command huge premium and maybe also why the non-PTS launch spec SC seems to have a much higher asking price. Mine was an 800 mile Guards Red car for 240k which be asking 290k nowadays
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2019-porsche-9...
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2019-porsche-9...
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2019-porsche-9...
you must be in a very elite club of people who bought a car in 2021 when prices were going crazy and its still worth more now than then!
[/quote]
I mentioned 2021, not 21/22. Late 2021/start of 2022 saw the start of the crazy boom in overs for all Porsches. The 1 2021 example you posted was a delivery mileage, heritage 'launch' spec car. The Heritage spec'ed cars will always command huge premium and maybe also why the non-PTS launch spec SC seems to have a much higher asking price. Mine was an 800 mile Guards Red car for 240k which be asking 290k nowadays
KittyLitter said:
KittyLitter said:
MeisterH said:
Just took delivery PTS ST, having own/d along with a few other Porsches, i can honestly say the ST is a utter blast of an experience!
Congrats. What PTS colour did you go for?This might have your name on it...
https://dvlaauction.co.uk/auction/B264/911PTS
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/911-pts-number...
Abc321 said:
KittyLitter said:
KittyLitter said:
MeisterH said:
Just took delivery PTS ST, having own/d along with a few other Porsches, i can honestly say the ST is a utter blast of an experience!
Congrats. What PTS colour did you go for?This might have your name on it...
https://dvlaauction.co.uk/auction/B264/911PTS
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/911-pts-number...
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