992.2 GT3 - Availability, what’s the latest?

992.2 GT3 - Availability, what’s the latest?

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Shiverman

908 posts

120 months

Sunday 9th February
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Jobbo said:
That’s my problem - if the 992.2 GT3 Touring has an acceptable ride I’d have one for the engine. But the Carrera S has a decent ride, and turbo torque is very usable for your daily. Heart says GT3 Touring with rear seats, head says why spend the extra and have a worse ride.
GT3 for high days, 992 Turbo S for daily. Can’t believe what they’ve done with the latest Turbo S as it now sounds loud with sports exhaust and chassis is much more engaging and more GT like. Later models are also fine with the sports chassis -10mm.
It’s not a GT3 engine but if you want daily as well they make a great pair.

bobo

1,721 posts

289 months

Sunday 9th February
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MannyLon said:
Why are we comparing GTS to the 3?
Very different cars and target market!
because one you can buy the other you can't?

MannyLon

1,984 posts

217 months

Sunday 9th February
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bobo said:
because one you can buy the other you can't?
Don’t buy, I say wink

keepup

123 posts

127 months

Sunday 9th February
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Shiverman said:
GT3 for high days, 992 Turbo S for daily. Can’t believe what they’ve done with the latest Turbo S as it now sounds loud with sports exhaust and chassis is much more engaging and more GT like. Later models are also fine with the sports chassis -10mm.
It’s not a GT3 engine but if you want daily as well they make a great pair.
We all like different things I guess and have different budgets and requirements . I love Porsche but no interest in a 4WD turbo PDK car.

Back to the original topic - my car is a late March build touring, which I guess will land mid-April. I hear dealers have 6 or so touring this year and 1.5x that for winged.

ChrisW.

7,379 posts

266 months

Sunday 9th February
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The numbers are interesting ...

If the car/version has a two year life that could be 30 cars per dealer ... but of course not all dealers will receive the same allocation (there are 46 OPC's).

Edited by ChrisW. on Sunday 9th February 15:58

jackwood

2,725 posts

219 months

Tuesday 11th February
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Thanks TDT for sending me these and wasting my day questioning my spec…

TDT

5,787 posts

130 months

Tuesday 11th February
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Haha, you’re welcome.

biglaugh

HundredthIdiot

4,451 posts

295 months

Wednesday 12th February
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AllyM said:
Isn’t a GT3 a pretty harsh ride on UK roads?

I could see a new GTS being able to be used daily, not so much the GT3.

Still, rather have the GT3 if it were solely a track toy.
I recently test drove a newish 992.1 GT3 Touring with PDK and found it perfectly usable in terms of refinement, damping and road noise. I believe the damping has improved significantly through the model life, with IIRC 11 revisions to the damping software, which is not routinely upgraded during OPC servicing. So individual cars vary a lot.

The only usability downside was the ride height. Around where I live there are speed bumps littered through every village, and using the front lift is necessary on these, so driving was a constant game of looking for speed bumps with the left hand hovering near the lift button. You can store GPS locations for auto lift but only 256 of them. Maybe you get used to this over time but I found it unappealing.

Otherwise the car left me a bit cold. I've owned a high revving car before and so there's no magic in 9000rpm itself, and in this car the engine is so smooth, almost turbine like, that I felt like I needed to wind the windows down to get a bit more of an experience, but that just added wind noise. I couldn't feel the engine through my hands and arse, although the sports seats on the model I drove didn't help.

So, impressed but a little disappointed, I bought a 991.1 GT3 RS.

It's a complete psycho of a car. Far less practical than the 992 non-RS, much harsher riding and speed bumps need to be taken at a crawl even with lift, but it feels alive even at idle, and when I rev it out it sounds and feels like the sky is being torn apart. I suspect the exhaust isn't entirely standard as the loud button doesn't do much.

I still fancy a manual car but might pick up a 991 T in a couple of years when my wife has cooled off a bit, assuming it can do speed bumps without lift.

I've no interest in a Porsche with turbos, but each to their own.

Moral of the story: don't rely on YouTube videos or journalist opinions to choose a car. Test it on roads you'll actually use and see how it makes you feel.


Edited by HundredthIdiot on Wednesday 12th February 05:21

ChrisW.

7,379 posts

266 months

Wednesday 12th February
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jackwood said:






Thanks TDT for sending me these and wasting my day questioning my spec…
Lush ... worth a repeat of the pictures !!

ChrisW.

7,379 posts

266 months

Wednesday 12th February
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"Moral of the story: don't rely on YouTube videos or journalist opinions to choose a car. Test it on roads you'll actually use and see how it makes you feel."

Interesting feedback ... have fun with the RS !!

Youforreal.

884 posts

15 months

Wednesday 12th February
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ChrisW. said:
jackwood said:






Thanks TDT for sending me these and wasting my day questioning my spec…
Lush ... worth a repeat of the pictures !!
lol, I’ll do that again, that’s is absolutely lovely looking!

Anyone lucky enough up get one, you lucky, lucky people :-)

Advan

56 posts

211 months

Wednesday 12th February
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keepup said:
I’ve been fortunate enough to have had a 991.1 Carrera S (Manual), a 991.1 GT3 Winged (Manual), a 992.1 GTS Targa (Manual), a 992.1 GT3 Touring (PDK) and a 992.1 S/T.

I have a 992.2 GT3 touring (Manual) on order and plan to keep it for an extended period. For my purposes it has a wide bandwidth - the first 4 seater NA 911 since the 991.1 GTS. Much more understated than driving a McLaren or Aston around.

I’m having comforts in mine and plan to use it as a properly daily for the school run (kids are 4 & 6, so perfect age for a 911). I’ll also probably do the odd track day in it.

If I didn’t want the rear seats (or the hassle / cost of after market solutions), I would have stuck with the 992.1 touring. Can’t see the draw for a 992.2 otherwise - more cost & weight, less noise, few other redeeming features.

The ST is an epic car and stands alone for thrills but it’s not a daily car and I wouldn’t want to use it as one. The 992.2 touring hopefully fits my needs perfectly.
What allocation has your dealer got so far + did they insist you had to have high spec + watch or ppf ?

hunter 66

4,077 posts

231 months

Wednesday 12th February
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Yes Jack that looks about it , nice understated look .
Off to OPC Mayfair tonight for GT event

jackwood

2,725 posts

219 months

Wednesday 12th February
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Advan said:
What allocation has your dealer got so far + did they insist you had to have high spec + watch or ppf ?
I can answer for me. They have had one Touring and one winged car so far. I got the winged car.

Only condition was that they wanted my GT4 back (which I bought from them, new, in ‘23). I handed it back at the weekend, and my mate has bought it off them.

No watch, PPF, Taycan, finance, brown envelope, WP, PCCB’s, mags, were required.

My spec is GT Silver, PDK, CS, steels, lift, Bose, and a couple of small cosmetic interior bits like leather steering column, embossed armrest, racetex sun visor, etc

jackwood

2,725 posts

219 months

Wednesday 12th February
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hunter 66 said:
Yes Jack that looks about it , nice understated look .
Off to OPC Mayfair tonight for GT event
Decided to stick with GT Silver in the end. That does look lovely in those photos though.

Have they got at .2 GT3 at the event tonight?

Yellow491

3,148 posts

130 months

Wednesday 12th February
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Youforreal. said:
ChrisW. said:
jackwood said:






Thanks TDT for sending me these and wasting my day questioning my spec…
Lush ... worth a repeat of the pictures !!
lol, I’ll do that again, that’s is absolutely lovely looking!

Anyone lucky enough up get one, you lucky, lucky people :-)
Me to,that looks great.
The rs should have looked as good as this.

TDT

5,787 posts

130 months

Wednesday 12th February
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Yellow491 said:
The rs should have looked as good as this.
For the discerning 992 RS customer -> under performance enhancement on the tequipment site.



Price on request = You’ll need to be sitting down in one of our comfy chairs for this!

Sidsw

814 posts

96 months

Wednesday 12th February
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TDT said:
For the discerning 992 RS customer -> under performance enhancement on the tequipment site.



Price on request = You’ll need to be sitting down in one of our comfy chairs for this!
£10k. top 555 had one with the extra carbon bits on, for sale a few weeks back. looked really good.

hornbaek

3,765 posts

246 months

Wednesday 12th February
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HundredthIdiot said:
AllyM said:
Isn’t a GT3 a pretty harsh ride on UK roads?

I could see a new GTS being able to be used daily, not so much the GT3.

Still, rather have the GT3 if it were solely a track toy.
I recently test drove a newish 992.1 GT3 Touring with PDK and found it perfectly usable in terms of refinement, damping and road noise. I believe the damping has improved significantly through the model life, with IIRC 11 revisions to the damping software, which is not routinely upgraded during OPC servicing. So individual cars vary a lot.

The only usability downside was the ride height. Around where I live there are speed bumps littered through every village, and using the front lift is necessary on these, so driving was a constant game of looking for speed bumps with the left hand hovering near the lift button. You can store GPS locations for auto lift but only 256 of them. Maybe you get used to this over time but I found it unappealing.

Otherwise the car left me a bit cold. I've owned a high revving car before and so there's no magic in 9000rpm itself, and in this car the engine is so smooth, almost turbine like, that I felt like I needed to wind the windows down to get a bit more of an experience, but that just added wind noise. I couldn't feel the engine through my hands and arse, although the sports seats on the model I drove didn't help.

So, impressed but a little disappointed, I bought a 991.1 GT3 RS.

It's a complete psycho of a car. Far less practical than the 992 non-RS, much harsher riding and speed bumps need to be taken at a crawl even with lift, but it feels alive even at idle, and when I rev it out it sounds and feels like the sky is being torn apart. I suspect the exhaust isn't entirely standard as the loud button doesn't do much.

I still fancy a manual car but might pick up a 991 T in a couple of years when my wife has cooled off a bit, assuming it can do speed bumps without lift.

I've no interest in a Porsche with turbos, but each to their own.

Moral of the story: don't rely on YouTube videos or journalist opinions to choose a car. Test it on roads you'll actually use and see how it makes you feel.


Edited by HundredthIdiot on Wednesday 12th February 05:21
Interesting take on the 992.1 GT3 Touring / 991 GT3 RS comparison. I exchanged my 991 GT3 RS for the Touring 3 years ago and have now done 20.000km in my Touring. Previous to that I owned my 991.1 GT3 RS for 5 years and sold it when the Touring came along. I had both cars from new. I found the 992 GT3 Touring much more track focused than the car it replaced. It was almost as if the new generation 992 GT3 Touring was much more like the previous RS equivalent. Sharper turn-in, noisier, higher rev range and much louder cabin. I would argue that on trips along the autobahn, the previous 991.1 GT3 RS was more comfortable (in relative terms) than the next 992 GT generation. I never really gelled with the 991.1 GT3 RS in the same way as I do with the 992 GT3. I also have a 997 GT3 RS 4.0 and that that is no comparison to the two other models altogether.



hornbaek

3,765 posts

246 months

Wednesday 12th February
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HundredthIdiot said:
AllyM said:
Isn’t a GT3 a pretty harsh ride on UK roads?

I could see a new GTS being able to be used daily, not so much the GT3.

Still, rather have the GT3 if it were solely a track toy.
I recently test drove a newish 992.1 GT3 Touring with PDK and found it perfectly usable in terms of refinement, damping and road noise. I believe the damping has improved significantly through the model life, with IIRC 11 revisions to the damping software, which is not routinely upgraded during OPC servicing. So individual cars vary a lot.

The only usability downside was the ride height. Around where I live there are speed bumps littered through every village, and using the front lift is necessary on these, so driving was a constant game of looking for speed bumps with the left hand hovering near the lift button. You can store GPS locations for auto lift but only 256 of them. Maybe you get used to this over time but I found it unappealing.

Otherwise the car left me a bit cold. I've owned a high revving car before and so there's no magic in 9000rpm itself, and in this car the engine is so smooth, almost turbine like, that I felt like I needed to wind the windows down to get a bit more of an experience, but that just added wind noise. I couldn't feel the engine through my hands and arse, although the sports seats on the model I drove didn't help.

So, impressed but a little disappointed, I bought a 991.1 GT3 RS.

It's a complete psycho of a car. Far less practical than the 992 non-RS, much harsher riding and speed bumps need to be taken at a crawl even with lift, but it feels alive even at idle, and when I rev it out it sounds and feels like the sky is being torn apart. I suspect the exhaust isn't entirely standard as the loud button doesn't do much.

I still fancy a manual car but might pick up a 991 T in a couple of years when my wife has cooled off a bit, assuming it can do speed bumps without lift.

I've no interest in a Porsche with turbos, but each to their own.

Moral of the story: don't rely on YouTube videos or journalist opinions to choose a car. Test it on roads you'll actually use and see how it makes you feel.


Edited by HundredthIdiot on Wednesday 12th February 05:21
Interesting take on the 992.1 GT3 Touring / 991 GT3 RS comparison. I exchanged my 991 GT3 RS for the Touring 3 years ago and have now done 20.000km in my Touring. Previous to that I owned my 991.1 GT3 RS for 5 years and sold it when the Touring came along. I had both cars from new. I found the 992 GT3 Touring much more track focused than the car it replaced. It was almost as if the new generation 992 GT3 Touring was much more like the previous RS equivalent. Sharper turn-in, noisier, higher rev range and much louder cabin. I would argue that on trips along the autobahn, the previous 991.1 GT3 RS was more comfortable (in relative terms) than the next 992 GT generation. I never really gelled with the 991.1 GT3 RS in the same way as I do with the 992 GT3. I also have a 997 GT3 RS 4.0 and that that is no comparison to the two other models altogether.